I've done so many lookups for this list that I'm hoping someone will help me with something I need. If anyone is planning a visit to the IL State Historical Library at Springfield sometime in the future, I need some obituaries copied. I have the name, date and page number and newspaper name. I don't live in IL and don't think it is fair that I should have to pay $10 per request just because I don't live in the state. Anyway I can't afford it either! I'll gladly reimburse for copy costs though. Thanks, Sue

Did you see if they have your resource through IRAD? They only charge ten cents per page. I have gotten several marriage records that way. Tiffany ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Tolbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: [ILSHELBY] Historical Library at Springfield > I've done so many lookups for this list that I'm hoping someone will help me with something I need. If anyone is planning a visit to the IL State Historical Library at Springfield sometime in the future, I need some obituaries copied. I have the name, date and page number and newspaper name. I don't live in IL and don't think it is fair that I should have to pay $10 per request just because I don't live in the state. Anyway I can't afford it either! I'll gladly reimburse for copy costs though. > > Thanks, > Sue >

Sue, I live in St. Louis, but I've been working on my Flat Branch connections--Denton, mainly, but also Tolly, Armstrong, Casey, etc. I was planning a trip to the area sometime after Thanksgiving, and I would be happy to look for whatever you need. Just let me know. Becky Mihelich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Tolbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: [ILSHELBY] Historical Library at Springfield > I've done so many lookups for this list that I'm hoping someone will help me with something I need. If anyone is planning a visit to the IL State Historical Library at Springfield sometime in the future, I need some obituaries copied. I have the name, date and page number and newspaper name. I don't live in IL and don't think it is fair that I should have to pay $10 per request just because I don't live in the state. Anyway I can't afford it either! I'll gladly reimburse for copy costs though. > > Thanks, > Sue >

Hi Jan, Thought this may be of interest to you and others. Below is a copy of some recent correspondence from an ANDERSON cousin. Our ggg grandparents: ANDREW ANDERSON & NANCY HARRELL ANDERSON are buried at Oak Grove Cemetary & also had land in the 1840's just across from it. My husband & I found the cemetary & their graves this past summer. Sorry, I don't know more about the history. Nancy Elam-Kelly Hi Mary, >I have particular interest in this area since my 4th great grandfather, >owned the original acreage having purchased it in 1829. He was John >Griffith of Warren co Tn and Burke co NC. Shelby history lists the death of >his son Joseph as probably the first death in the township and we feel he >was buried on Johns property. As others in the settlement succumbed to the >hardships of the pioneer life in the small settlement more than likely John >donated the land his son was buried on to be used for the community as well. >In fact family "lore" said he did. The only record of a "Griffith Grave yard >" was recorded in the History of Shelby co in the Church section. Giving the >grave yard as a land mark which indicated the location where the meeting >was held in 1868 to discuss the plans to build Oak Grove church. It said >that "the meeting was held in the woods near Griffith graveyard 3 and 1/2 >miles south east of Shelbyville, in the location where in the old days a >log school house stood." This log school house was built in 1830. It was the >first school house built east of the Okaw. I suppose in 1868 that seemed >like the old days to them) and the first teacher was Daniel Green. The >Greens lived in the same area and are my family too. John Fleming was a >neighbor and close friend to my Greens and Griffiths. Who also located to >Fayette with them for a time. >If you have any information you have run across in your search of your >family on the Greens and the Griffiths the Jennings, Martins, or Millers, , >I would appreciate it too. >I know personally that John Griffith, Abraham Griffith, and many others ar e >buried in that cemetery which after the church was built became known as Oak >Grove. John and his family were long gone and moved from the area and Edwin >or Edward Martin gave the Deed to the property for the church. He could very >well have been a descendent of Johns wife Margaret who we think was a >Martin, no proof yet nor do we have record of just when the property changed >hands from the Griffiths to the Martins. At the current time the oldest >stone left standing in the cemetery is that of Felix Green who was buried >1843 and his son Jesse and his brother William Green and wife Annis Fortner >Green. >I have an account that states the location of the chapel as having stood >just north west of the two roads as you approach the cemetery. The cemetery >was to the west of the chapel. Sunday socials and events for the settlement >were often held at Oak Grove church and it housed over the years several >different denominations including Presbyterian and Baptist. all that is left >is the cemetery and the records lost of those buried there and the old >stones have long since crumbled. >That is all I know wish I knew more. > Keep in touch , we could be kin.!! >Janice Havlik > >From: "Janice Havlik" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ILSHELBY] Oak Grove Church >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:53:39 -0800 > >I am interested to find anyone having history on the Oak Grove Church late >1800's in Shelbyville twp. >thanks >Jan > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

I don't know, but he was born in 1864. I have a picture of them taken in the 1930's/40's and they were both very old. Susie At 02:10 PM 11/16/01 -0800, you wrote: >Is this Hattie Reynolds, former Hattie Ponsler? >Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) >[email protected] > > >"Dr. Susan L. Strode" wrote: > >> Sue, >> >> Do you have anything on John and Hattie REYNOLDS? They were living in >> Tower Hill in 1929. >> >> Susie > >

Hattie Mae Ponsler Reynolds was born in 1872 and my mistake ~ she was married to Clarence Monroe Reynolds, not John Reynolds. Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) [email protected] "Dr. Susan L. Strode" wrote: > I don't know, but he was born in 1864. I have a picture of them taken in > the 1930's/40's and they were both very old. > > Susie > > At 02:10 PM 11/16/01 -0800, you wrote: > >Is this Hattie Reynolds, former Hattie Ponsler? > >Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) > >[email protected] > > > > > >"Dr. Susan L. Strode" wrote: > > > >> Sue, > >> > >> Do you have anything on John and Hattie REYNOLDS? They were living in > >> Tower Hill in 1929. > >> > >> Susie > > > >

Sue, Do you have anything on John and Hattie REYNOLDS? They were living in Tower Hill in 1929. Susie

Is this Hattie Reynolds, former Hattie Ponsler? Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) [email protected] "Dr. Susan L. Strode" wrote: > Sue, > > Do you have anything on John and Hattie REYNOLDS? They were living in > Tower Hill in 1929. > > Susie

Ron, I moved to Pana from Moweaqua in 1979. We lived 1/4 mile from the Shelby/Christian line. I attended school in Pana from 4th grade until graduation. I was highly involved with the Shelby County 4-H, starting out with the Moweaqua club and then Oconee and later Tower Hill. My mother still works with the Tower Hill club and still lives in Pana. My father was raised around Cowden. It is his family that I am trying to research. His mother was from Cowden and his father from Stew-Straus. Having started out knowing nothing I have been able to uncover some information on the Carlisle's from Cowden but have had no luck at all for the Thomas's in Stew-Straus. I haven't been back to Pana for quite some time. It always amazes me the changes that have taken place after years of the town seeming to be immune to it. Joyce (Thomas) Conklin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Tower Hill Joyce, I grew up in Pana, my wife in Tower Hill. Perhaps if you tell me a bit more about yourself, we may have some friends in common. Ron Eagan

Joyce, I grew up in Pana, my wife in Tower Hill. Perhaps if you tell me a bit more about yourself, we may have some friends in common. Ron Eagan

Sherry, For the life of me, I cannot find the story about Germantown. I know I had it bookmarked, but just can't find it. Have you read that history? I thought there would be a link on the Clinton site but alas....not there. Just hopeful that you have that link. I didn't realize it wasn't in Shelby Co. until you said so. Thanks! Terria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Mazzetti" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:44 PM Subject: [ILSHELBY] Germantown Bankson > GERMANTOWN is NOW in Clinton County (formed 1824), and you can access the mention of Bankston/Bankson, Hill, and Hooper (about 1814) from their site. Think it was Washington County (or maybe Bond) in 1814. My early geography of IL requires lookups! > > SHERRY > >

Thank you Joyce, I guess I never really went into the town. I only went by way of the road I described. I have 2 cousins that live there. I was also thinking of the cemetery. It must be a good ways away from the town then. Anyway, please disregard my directions, yours are much better! <g> Terria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conklin, Joyce S." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] Tower Hill > I grew up in the Pana, Tower Hill, Moweaqua areas. Tower Hill is on > Route 16, probably 7 miles east of Pana which is in Christian County or > about 4 miles from the Shelby-Christian Line. Its about 10 miles west > of Shelbyville. Tower Hill is pretty small but 16 goes through its > northern side. If you're coming from Cowden, the quickest way is to > take 128 up to the Lakewood blacktop. It'll take you west over to the > Herrick blacktop, I'm assuming that's the Co Rd 15 mentioned. Go North > 7 to 10 miles and it'll take you around the curves and over the railroad > tracks into Tower Hill. Or you can take 128 up to 16 and then go west > which is a straighter shot. > > One note is that most county roads are not marked although they are > getting better about it. You'll just see a sign that says the town with > an arrow or x number of miles. Also, many locals don't call the roads > by the road numbers and may not know the road number but will refer to > them as such and such blacktop which will be the town that the blacktop > runs into. So if you stop for directions, you'll need to not only know > the road number you're looking for but also some of the towns on that > road. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sherry Mazzetti [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILSHELBY] Tower Hill > > > Not been to Tower Hill, but I am pretty familiar with both Shelbyville > and Cowden. Shelbyville has Route 16 running East/West through it. If > you are traveling from the East and going West, you take Route 16 > through Shelbyville and beyond 128 (the turnoff for Cowden). > Reportedly, there is a Country Road 15 about 6 miles West of > Shelbyville. Turn Left (South) on CR 15 and go .2 miles. Tower Hill is > supposed to be just behond it another .1 miles. > > If you were traveling from the South from Cowden, you would take Route > 128 to Route 16 and turn left (West) away from Shelbyville (a right turn > take you to S-ville). From Cowden to Tower Hill is a bit over 17 miles. > Hope this is clear. > > Found the directions on Mapquest, and they make sense to me. > > SHERRY > > >

Sherry, I am not sure the road name that goes to the left heading from Cowden to Shelbyville, but you don't have to go all the way to Rte 16. There is a small sign that says to Tower Hill. It is only about 7-10 miles from Cowden I think. Going all the way to 16 would make you have to backtrack south. Terria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Mazzetti" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:24 PM Subject: [ILSHELBY] Tower Hill > Not been to Tower Hill, but I am pretty familiar with both Shelbyville and Cowden. Shelbyville has Route 16 running East/West through it. If you are traveling from the East and going West, you take Route 16 through Shelbyville and beyond 128 (the turnoff for Cowden). Reportedly, there is a Country Road 15 about 6 miles West of Shelbyville. Turn Left (South) on CR 15 and go .2 miles. Tower Hill is supposed to be just behond it another .1 miles. > > If you were traveling from the South from Cowden, you would take Route 128 to Route 16 and turn left (West) away from Shelbyville (a right turn take you to S-ville). From Cowden to Tower Hill is a bit over 17 miles. Hope this is clear. > > Found the directions on Mapquest, and they make sense to me. > > SHERRY > > > >

I grew up in the Pana, Tower Hill, Moweaqua areas. Tower Hill is on Route 16, probably 7 miles east of Pana which is in Christian County or about 4 miles from the Shelby-Christian Line. Its about 10 miles west of Shelbyville. Tower Hill is pretty small but 16 goes through its northern side. If you're coming from Cowden, the quickest way is to take 128 up to the Lakewood blacktop. It'll take you west over to the Herrick blacktop, I'm assuming that's the Co Rd 15 mentioned. Go North 7 to 10 miles and it'll take you around the curves and over the railroad tracks into Tower Hill. Or you can take 128 up to 16 and then go west which is a straighter shot. One note is that most county roads are not marked although they are getting better about it. You'll just see a sign that says the town with an arrow or x number of miles. Also, many locals don't call the roads by the road numbers and may not know the road number but will refer to them as such and such blacktop which will be the town that the blacktop runs into. So if you stop for directions, you'll need to not only know the road number you're looking for but also some of the towns on that road. -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Mazzetti [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILSHELBY] Tower Hill Not been to Tower Hill, but I am pretty familiar with both Shelbyville and Cowden. Shelbyville has Route 16 running East/West through it. If you are traveling from the East and going West, you take Route 16 through Shelbyville and beyond 128 (the turnoff for Cowden). Reportedly, there is a Country Road 15 about 6 miles West of Shelbyville. Turn Left (South) on CR 15 and go .2 miles. Tower Hill is supposed to be just behond it another .1 miles. If you were traveling from the South from Cowden, you would take Route 128 to Route 16 and turn left (West) away from Shelbyville (a right turn take you to S-ville). From Cowden to Tower Hill is a bit over 17 miles. Hope this is clear. Found the directions on Mapquest, and they make sense to me. SHERRY

GERMANTOWN is NOW in Clinton County (formed 1824), and you can access the mention of Bankston/Bankson, Hill, and Hooper (about 1814) from their site. Think it was Washington County (or maybe Bond) in 1814. My early geography of IL requires lookups! SHERRY

Not been to Tower Hill, but I am pretty familiar with both Shelbyville and Cowden. Shelbyville has Route 16 running East/West through it. If you are traveling from the East and going West, you take Route 16 through Shelbyville and beyond 128 (the turnoff for Cowden). Reportedly, there is a Country Road 15 about 6 miles West of Shelbyville. Turn Left (South) on CR 15 and go .2 miles. Tower Hill is supposed to be just behond it another .1 miles. If you were traveling from the South from Cowden, you would take Route 128 to Route 16 and turn left (West) away from Shelbyville (a right turn take you to S-ville). From Cowden to Tower Hill is a bit over 17 miles. Hope this is clear. Found the directions on Mapquest, and they make sense to me. SHERRY

GERMANTOWN is near St. Louis--about 100 miles Southwest of Shelby County. Have to check the county--don't know offhand. SHERRY

I am seeking connections to the Greaves, Tolsons, Ayars, Judkins living in Moweaqua Twp. Shelby County in the 1870's and 1880' and perhaps later. Roots coming from NJ, NY and England - (largely Staffordshire Co). Thanks so much! Colleen Miltenberger [email protected]

I think everyone is getting blanks e-mails,just delete.Ruth

----- Original Message ----- From: "tc1005937" <[email protected]> <snip>there is a problem with blank emails I dont know why they are coming but trying to figure it out is another problem. <snip> Let me say this once again, I think my response may have been unnoticed in the flood of blank emails. The lady that sent all the blank emails, was subbed to the list by either someone else, or did not know or understand how a list works. She replied to every email and sent them all back to the list. In two of them she made a comment stating that she was receiving mail in error. I sent her unsubscribe information and the blank emails stopped. It was an error on her part. Tiffany --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/2001