Hi everyone, In today's Peoria Journal Star, there was an article regarding the Manito cemetery, in Mason Co, Illinois. It seems that recently vandals toppled headstones and broke numerous other markers. This is one of the oldest, most historical cemeteries in the area. The most severely damaged was a marble monument for Bartholomew F. Seelye, born Jan. 25, 1825, died April 11, 1884. The Manito Township Supervisor, James Fleming, is trying to contact a relative of the Seelye family. Hope someone can help! Robin Schuyler County ILSCHUYL-L McDonough County ILMCDONO-L

Howdy Folks! I just subscribed to the Schuyler County list, and thought I would introduce myself. My name is Meg Gentry Bookout, and I descend from two families that were in Schuyler Co pretty early-Hollingsworth and Reno. My 5th g-grandfather was Abraham Hollingsworth, who died near Rushville in December 1837. His son Avenant Hollingsworth married Mary (Polly) Reno in IL in 1822, the daughter of Jonathon Reno, who had come to Schuyler Co from TN really early-his daughter Louisa was born there in 1826. Jonathon was a wandering kinda guy, he lived all over the place, finally meeting his maker in Springfield MO in 1838. He was stabbed to death, helping a merchant "clear out" some rowdies from the store. He was 57 at the time, so he must have been one tough dude! One of Avenant's brothers, Gabriel, stayed in Schuyler Co and supposedly helped build the Jail that is now the Jail Museum. Haven't found out if this is true or not. The Hollingsworth family has also passed down Lincoln stories, which I am sure EVERY family has <grin>. A couple of Hollingsworths DID serve in the Blackhawk Wars at the same time and same place as Abraham Lincoln, so maybe the stories are based in truth. Anyway, that's my introduction-I'd love to hear some other Schuyler County stories! Meg in CA

Hello I'm search for info on the family of Elias Angill age 56 or Angel. He is listed in 1850 census of Vermilion co as Angill. Does anyone by chance have a 1860 census of Vermilion they could look thro to see if this family was there in that year. His wife was Ann age 57 he is listed as being born in KY she VA. They had 4 children in 1850. 1. Juliana age 15 b. KY later became Mrs. William Clements and moved to Schuyler Co. 2. William age 13 b. KY 3. Cathn. age 11 b. KY later became Mrs.John Brothers. 4. Maria age 9 b. KY later became Mrs. William K. Hollette Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Billie Jane janemac@juno.com in Yuma, AZ ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Sara and all, > But the cost of hiring someone will stop that type of job from becoming > reality. Yeah, unfortunately, that is true. Even if the volume were such that a courthouse could hire a person to handle the load, before doing that they would probably just say "no more". Copying for genealogists is really a courtesy, isn't it?. Someplaces you have to state why and which relation you are in order to get copies - and only if they deem it necessary. We _are really fortunate to have such wonderful, understanding people who work at the Schuyler courthouse. I've only gotten copies when its absolutely necessary, because most of the original books have been filmed by the LDS and can be ordered from a family history center. When I lived in Idaho, that's where I got most of my documentation. Never in my wildest dreams did I really believe I would someday live nearby! Ain't life great! Robin

Wouldn't it be great. But the cost of hiring someone will stop that type of job from becoming reality. How about a volunteer group who would do the task? They could request a small fee for the expenses of running the group. The people at the Schuyler County Courthouse are a great bunch of people. Some of them have family who volunteer at the Historical Society. You don't find that at most courthouses. I could name a several where they treat you as their worse nightmare. Over the years, some of the people that the Schuyler Courthouse have become almost like friends. I've never wrote them with a request, always have went when I was there. The first day I'm there I go to the courthouse and let them know what I want and let them copying it at their own time, not while I'm standing there. Pay for the copying or at least leave money for what we think it will cost, then leave telling them when I'll check back -- next day or later. On the last day I can pick the copies up, I go and get what is done. One time, my sister and I had pick out about 30 full probates we wanted copied. They couldn't have possibly have copied them in the time we were in Rushville. We left money for the copying and postage. They copied and mailed us the probates and even wrote us that we hadn't left enough many. It took 2 months. Even through copying is part of their job, it's low on the list of what has to be done. Remember "Courtesy" -- "Patience" -- "Understanding" -- of other's circumstances. Sara

Dixie and all, I've been giving this alot of thought of late. Last week, I went to the Rushville courthouse to get copies of a few probates and found that the circuit court office is being renovated, and they wouldn't be able to get to the books for at least four months. Can you imagine the amount of requests from genealogists that will be builtup by that time? This got me to thinking that its too bad the county courthouses don't hire one person whose sole responsibility would be to gather archival material from all the different departments, make the copies, etc. I would assume that most departments (circuit court, recorders) are located in the same building, and that none of them have the archival material on the computer, but are in books. What I wouldn't give for a job like that! Robin On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, D. Dixie Davis wrote: > I've seen that many of you are having trouble getting genealogy data > from some of the court houses. The following explanation may help you > understand how difficult it is for some of them that work there, > especially since the records are not on a computer. > Sincerely, > D. Dixie Davis > Dixie - the river rat

I've seen that many of you are having trouble getting genealogy data from some of the court houses. The following explanation may help you understand how difficult it is for some of them that work there, especially since the records are not on a computer. Sincerely, D. Dixie Davis Dixie - the river rat ++++++++++++++++ D. Dixie Davis, Hi! ----- here. :-) Mom took the 3 e-mails you sent concerning the Mason County Court House, Nancy Glick, and genealogical research to her office yesterday, and after careful thinking...they realized that 2 of those incidents mentioned in the e-mails took place in the office next to hers, the Circuit Clerk's Office...not in hers, the County Clerk's Office. Also, Mom said that her boss, the County Clerk, ---- --------, told them that genealogical research is not their top priority...well, obviously!...BECAUSE that is NOT what their job is to do...that is sort of a side-job-like-thing. ...and, in those e-mails where someone complained about time...and...talking on the phone and getting info....Mom's response was: "All of that information is in a book. We have many, many books here that would have to be gone through to find the info. Our info. is not on a computer system, possibly unlike other counties that have a computer-based database," where they can search for something while still on the phone and happily give them the info. they want. In my opinion, those people should be lucky that they get any assistance at all! They obviously are not intelligent enough to realize that the jobs of those in the County and Circuit Clerk's Offices are not jobs that deal with helping genealogy nuts! Mom says: "Our office is a staff of four (4) with our boss (5), and it used to be six (6), and that was in the past, when the office wasn't as busy with recording info. and we were not in charge of running animal control for the county. So, we have fewer people doing more work. ...and mom, working at the court house...is also a genealogy nut, and so she tries to meet the needs of other family researchers as time permits after her normal work duties. The workers in her office are busy preserving today's information that will be history tomorrow." Bye, bye now... :-) ++++++++++++++++

Hello, My GGG grandmother Elizabeth (Grimes) DeGarmo left Randolph County, VA about 1837 with four young sons, and arrived in Illinois probably in 1838. Elizabeth purchased land on the McDonough/Schuyler County line, and spent her older years in Schuyler County. I have found her in the 1870 census living with a son, but she is not listed in the 1880 census, therefore, I'm estimating she died about 1874. One of the descendants of Elizabeth (Grimes) DeGarmo, Vada Sims feels Elizabeth was likely buried at the Prather (Guinea) Cemetery. Does anyone have an index to that cemetery? I would appreciate any assistance to locate when Elizabeth died, and where she is buried. Thanks. Bill DeGarmo

Can someone on the list do me a big favor and see if there is any information in the Schuyler County History Book about a William Bailey, wife Louise, and daughter Maria Ellen? Thanks in advance. Joan

Searching for the names SHAW, LAWYER, EMERICK and SCHAFFER. Samuel SCHAFFER married Harriet EMERICK sometime in the 1830's. Samuel was from around Rushville, IL. Harriet was from Virginia. I don't know how many children they had. One daughter was Eliza Jane. She was born on April 16, 1837 in Rushville. Eliza Jane married John Wesley LAWYER. He was born on January 24, 1834. They had six children. Nancy, Amanda, William, Dora Ann, Tinee, and Henry. The first two were born in Springfield, IL. The others were born in Washington State. Nancy was my gggrandmother. She married a SHAW in IL. They had my ggrandmother, Lida SHAW on December 14, 1874. Something happened so that Nancy and Lida moved back to Washington. Thanks, Julie Hendrix

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Hi everyone ~ This is my first time to this list, so wish me luck! My family arrived in Schuyler County in the 1860's. Before, they lived in Vermillion IL, then to IN, then returned to IL, settling in Schuyler. INGRAM, Uriah and his wife Lavina THOROUGHMAN (THURYMAN) INGRAM CENSUS YR: 1860 TERRITORY: IL COUNTY: SCHUYLER DIVISION: BAINBRIDGE TWP REEL NO: M653-228 PAGE NO: 18 BB LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX BIRTHPLACE 13 125 125 INGRAM URIAH 49 M KY 14 125 125 INGRAM LAVINA 37 F KY 15 125 125 INGRAM LUCINDA 21 F ILL 16 125 125 INGRAM GEORGE W 17 M IN 17 125 125 INGRAM IRA 11 M IN 18 125 125 INGRAM WILLIAM C 4 M IN 19 125 125 THURYMAN MORIDA 14 F + ****************************************************************************** ********* We don't know what happened to Lavina, but Uriah then married Permelia BOX, Daughter of John and Elizabeth (Williams) BOX of LIttleton, Schuyler Co (John was originally from KY). CENSUS YR: 1860 TERRITORY: IL COUNTY: Schuyler DIVISION: Littleton Township REEL NO: M653-228 PAGE NO: 3 L LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX. BIRTHPLACE 39 21 21 BOX JOHN 48 M KY 40 21 21 BOX ELIZABETH 43 F OH (WILLIAMS, sister of Phebe NEIDY and Elijah WILLIAMS, children of Peter and Rebekah (WAGGONER) WILLIAMS) REEL NO: M653-228 PAGE NO: 4 L 1 21 21 BOX PERMELIA 17 F ILL (was not the oldest child) 2 21 21 BOX THOMAS 15 M ILL 3 21 21 BOX ELIJAH 13 M ILL 4 21 21 BOX MARY J 9 F ILL 5 21 21 BOX FRANCES 6 F ILL 6 21 21 BOX LOUISA 4 F ILL (died young) 7 21 21 BOX SUSANNAH 2 F ILL Uriah and Permelia (Mary) INGRAM had many children, with the last child being Jasper INGRAM b 1883. Permelia died not long after his birth in 1884. Uriah then married her sister, Susanna or Sarah (BOX) McHALEY (widow) when he was about 70 or 73 years old. THey lived in these townships: Camden, Brooklyn and Bainbridge. I have found a possible relative in Brown County --- John B. INGRAM who might be the brother of John B.? Of the children of Uriah and Permelia, one was my ggrandmother, Louisa Etta "May" INGRAM, b abt 1879. She is the person I need to find. She was born in Plymouth (Hancock county?) IL. Since her mother died when she was only 7, I assume her grandparents (BOX) raised her? There is no 1890 census, so this makes it tough. I do know that her sister Susan never married, and lived with the BOX's until thier deaths in 1900-1901. They are both buried in the Thompson Cemetery near Littleton. Susan then moved to Grayson County Texas -- no more info known. My ggrandmother Etta "May" INGRAM married Thomas LONGWELL of Knox County IL in 1897 in Washington Co IOWA. They had one son, Charles LONGWELL in 1898 in either Maquon IL or Macomb IL or ?. I have not been able to find a birth record. They had a nasty divorce in 1900 in Knox County and May didn't show up in court to fight for custody of her son. She was never seen again. I did find a marriage record for C. H. WAGNER a potter, to a May INGRAM LONGWELL in 1903 in Monmouth, Warren County IL (not far from Knox County). But I've checked census records and city directories and have not found them again. If anyone has clues to any of the above families, I'd LOVE to share! I hope this stirs up something..... Valerie Boatkitten@aol.com

Looking for any information on Samuel SCHAFFER who married Harriet EMERICK. I don't know how many children they had. All I have is my ggggrandmother, Eliza Jane. She was born on April 16, 1837 in Rushville. She married John Wesley LAWYER sometime around 1855. They had six children, Nancy (my gggrandmother). She was born on May 30, 1857 in Springfield. Amanda, William, Dora Ann, Tinee, and Henry. Nancy married a man named SHAW. They had one child, Lida Anna (my ggrandmother). She was born on December 14, 1874 in Springfield. Some of the family moved to Washington State. Lida married my ggrandfather, Robert SLEIGHT. He was originally from England, but lived in Portland, Oregon. Thanks, Julie Hendrix

Hi: I am looking for more info on Issac and Sarah Manlove Hiatt. They moved from NC to Schuyler Co., IL before 1840. My 1850 Sarah is listed as head of the family and they are living in McDonough Co. Does anyone know what happened to Issac, did he die. I have been unable to find any thing on him. I have more on Sarah and their children. Debbie

Hi: I am looking for anyone researching the Paul and Lydia Manlove Daniels family. They moved from NC to Littleton before 1840 and remained there until their deaths in 1899 and 1891 respectively. They were the parents of 1. Randolph b 1836 (married Roseanna Weaver) 2. Adella b 1839 (married Samuel Weaver), 3. Rebecca b 1843 (married Jefferson Dunsworth had one son Lewis, before her death, 4. Nancy b @1844 may have married a Robert Smith, 5. Mary b 1846 (married Darius Mott, my line) 6. Sarah, b. 1847, never married 7. William b 1854, married Hannah Lawler. Who was Pauls parents, he was born September 6, 1812 in Rowan Co., NC? I have info and would love to share. Debbie

In response to a number of suggestions I received regarding the readability of the family pages of the Wise Family Research Page, http://www.geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ , I've changed the color scheme. I hope you can all do more with less eye strain. Please, if there are any further suggestions, feel free to send me a note. Happy Hunting, Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] ICQ #8931206 Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN Sylvester J. Wise where are you? =================================== Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ Frank's Photo Albums: http://members2.clubphoto.com/frank170540/ *NEW* Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 3:44 PM To: Genealogy List - Wise (E-mail); Genealogy List - Montgomery Co. KS (E-mail); Genealogy List - Labette Co. KS (E-mail); Genealogy List - BITNER-L (E-mail); Genealogy List - GRAY (E-mail); Genealogy list - Sands (E-mail); Genealogy List - Brown Co. IL (E-mail); IL Genealogy List - Schuyler Co (E-mail); Genealogy List - Coles Co. IL (E-mail); IL Genealogy List - Edgar Co. (E-mail); Genealogy List - KS Kin (E-mail); Genealogy List - KSroots (E-mail); KS Genealogy List - Neosho Co. (E-mail) Subject: Wise Research Page The Wise Family Research Page has been updated and hopefully I've done away with the errors you previously encountered. I've added a photo album site and I plan to add biographies and obits in the near future. Some of the surnames found there are: ARMENTROUT BENNETT BERRY BEVINS BITNER BLACK BLEVENS BLEVINS BOETTNER BOYNTON BRERETON COFFEY DE NOBLET ELROD ERMENTRAUDT ERSKINE FAGAN FANE FERGUSON FERRILL GOBBLE GOBLE GRAY HAZELWOOD HEADY HECKART HEIDLEBACH HEIDLEBAUGH HERCHE INGLIS KEYES LASLEY LATCHFORD MACGREGOR MACPHERSON MARSHALL MATTOCKS MAXEDON MCCABE MCCALL MCCARTNEY MCCARTY MCCLAIN MCCLURE MCCLUSKEY MCCONNELL MCCOY MCCRACKEN MCCREA MCCUEN MCCUTCHEON MCDONALD MCGAUGHEY MCGAUGHTY MCGAUGHY MCGEE MCGHGHY MCLAUGHLIN MCMILLEN MOCK NEIDIGH NEU NOBETT NOBLET NOBLETT NOBLETTS NOBLITT NUCCOL NUCHOLLS NUCKOLLS OWEN OWENS PERRY PULASKI SANDS SLATTEN SLY STOFFER STOUFFER STOUT THACKER THATCHER TROSTLE TRUE TULL TURNBULL TUTTLE VAN CLEEF VANDEVEER VINING VON DER AU WATERFALL WHITSETT WICKER WILKERSON and.......WISE (of course) and many, many, many more... Happy Hunting, Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] ICQ #8931206 Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN Sylvester J. Wise where are you? =================================== Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ Frank's Photo Albums: http://members2.clubphoto.com/frank170540/ Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com

I have discovered the names of the three listed below. I cannot connect them at this point-which is frustrating. I suspect they are connected to one of the Manloves below. Can anyone help? I have been through 1850 and 1860 censuses. Descendants of ? Manlove 1 ? Manlove ....2 Knowles J. Manlove b: in Company B, 91st Illinois Infantry: Civil War d: in Terra Haute, IL ....2 Marcus D. L. Manlove b: in Company G, 16th Illinois Infantry ....2 Hester Manlove d: 1861 .......+James Franklin Stewart b: 1839 in Rush Co., IL m: August 30, 1860 in Rush Co., IL Sons of David Manlove and Isabelle Pigott 1 William Manlove b: 1824 1 Theodore Manlove b: 1829 1 George William Manlove b: 1836 .. +Elizabeth Boyd b: Abt 1840 m: May 04, 1864 in Schuyler Co., Ill.:Lic. 4449, Vol. C, Pg. 44 d: January 12, 1919 1 Jonathan Homer Manlove b: 1842 in Brewster, Sherman Co., KS OR his second wife: 1 Elizabeth Hays b: 1808 . +David Manlove b: December 27, 1795 m: January 01, 1829 in Schuyler Co., Ill.; Lic. 1588, Vol. 1, Pg. 184 Fact 1: May 23, 1821 Liber 26, Folio 542: John Beard, sheriff to David Manlove. In execution of $171.75 owed by John Montgomery recovered by William Bodenhammer, 50 acres on Rich Fork for $20 witnessed by J. Manlove and J. Bodenhammer. Fact 2: May 04, 1821 Liber 26, Folio 639: William Wilborn Sr. to David Manlove, for $400, 103 acres Abbott's Creek adjacent to Wilborn's homestead, witnessed John and William Bodenhammer.

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The Wise Family Research Page has been updated and hopefully I've done away with the errors you previously encountered. I've added a photo album site and I plan to add biographies and obits in the near future. Some of the surnames found there are: ARMENTROUT BENNETT BERRY BEVINS BITNER BLACK BLEVENS BLEVINS BOETTNER BOYNTON BRERETON COFFEY DE NOBLET ELROD ERMENTRAUDT ERSKINE FAGAN FANE FERGUSON FERRILL GOBBLE GOBLE GRAY HAZELWOOD HEADY HECKART HEIDLEBACH HEIDLEBAUGH HERCHE INGLIS KEYES LASLEY LATCHFORD MACGREGOR MACPHERSON MARSHALL MATTOCKS MAXEDON MCCABE MCCALL MCCARTNEY MCCARTY MCCLAIN MCCLURE MCCLUSKEY MCCONNELL MCCOY MCCRACKEN MCCREA MCCUEN MCCUTCHEON MCDONALD MCGAUGHEY MCGAUGHTY MCGAUGHY MCGEE MCGHGHY MCLAUGHLIN MCMILLEN MOCK NEIDIGH NEU NOBETT NOBLET NOBLETT NOBLETTS NOBLITT NUCCOL NUCHOLLS NUCKOLLS OWEN OWENS PERRY PULASKI SANDS SLATTEN SLY STOFFER STOUFFER STOUT THACKER THATCHER TROSTLE TRUE TULL TURNBULL TUTTLE VAN CLEEF VANDEVEER VINING VON DER AU WATERFALL WHITSETT WICKER WILKERSON and.......WISE (of course) and many, many, many more... Happy Hunting, Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] ICQ #8931206 Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN Sylvester J. Wise where are you? =================================== Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ Frank's Photo Albums: http://members2.clubphoto.com/frank170540/ Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com

Carol Harvey, Please contact me regarding the questions you asked. My guestbook failed to record your email address and I'd like to give you the info you asked for. Happy Hunting, Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] ICQ #8931206 Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN Sylvester J. Wise where are you? =================================== Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ Frank's Photo Albums: http://members2.clubphoto.com/frank170540/ *NEW* Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com