Robert - Thanks so much for Robert Bagby info. I really think he was older brother to my John D, Bagby. John was b. 1814. He had a brother James M. b. 1817 and believe Martha who married Eleven Shelton and Nancy who married John Shelton were sisters. John had daughters Nancy & Martha. John m. Mary Caroline Roll daughter of William Roll and Mary Eddy (from NJ). James m. Sydney Loyed (in Menard Co.). Faith keahey@fiberpipe.net