The list of children of James Vance and Barbara Miller I obtained from two Vance researchers. They had the list of children but they do not remember where or when they got it. They are both from the Labette Co., KS area. This list gives the names of some of the children who had left the Vance home before the 1850 census and some of the names hadn't been seen until we put them online. I believe that this list came from a family Bible and is valid. I have since researched the "mystery" children and have been able to trace most of their families for 2-3 generations. The only ones I haven't been able to identify is William and his sister Nancy who were in the 1850 census with their parents James & Barbara. Michael b. Sep 1821 d. 1900 Sang. Co., IL Susannah Fitch, b. abt 1822, d. Sangamon Co., IL abt 1880 Agnes Owens b. Dec 1824 liv. Sangamon Co., IL 1880 Isaac N. b. abt 1827 d. abt 1863, Civil War??? Marcena Reeves b. Aug 1828 liv. Sangamon Co., IL, d. 1910 WA James H. b. Mar 1829 d. btw. 1900-1910, Labette or Mont. KS Elizabeth Hunter b. abt 1832 liv. 1880, Boone Co., WV Mary "Polly" Wyatt, b. abt 1834. liv. Athens OH 1870 William b. abt 1836 no information Nancy b. abt 1838 no information George W. b. abt 1839 liv. 1870-1880 Labette Co., KS, d. 1933, IL Thomas J. b. Oct 1841 liv 1860s, Sang. Co., IL; " " liv. 1867-1913 Labette Co., KS James Vance, Sr. died in Labette Co., KS in 1872. I would love to contact someone...anyone...who has knowledge of any of the above people or their descendants. I would also like to find the origin of the list of children. Thanks, Carole