This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/1324.1333.1.1 Message Board Post: We know that Samuel is the son of Peter II, who is the son of Peter I b. circa 1700 the son of Englebert of 5450 Rodenbach in the parish of Feldkirchen of the German Palitinate. Where does Jacob Andreas fit in? I thought he was another family group. Barnett McConnel, Jr's book, "Hartsock Heritage: A Three hundred Year Chronicle of the hartsock Family of Southwest Virginia" would be of interest to anyone researching Samuel and Elizabeth Hamm.