Thanks Molly I missed it by one year. My marriage record was in March 1877 in Sangamon Co. Ill. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Molly Kennedy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [ILSANGAM-L] FERN E. MARTIN > > HI Paul - > > Marriage records in IL prior to 1878 do not (as a norm) have parental > information (unless one of the bridal party was under-aged, and the > parental/guardian permission slip survived long enough to be microfilmed). > > After 1878 - the bridal couple were to complete a marriage Application - and > in most IL counties (except Cook... they seem to have their own rules) - > this application (or its equivelant, the marriage Return) still survive. > Marriage applications/returns give parental info. > > For marriages prior to 1878 - - - family & parental info may be gleaned from > Census findings (state, Federal) - or newspaper articles/mentions of the > marriage (i.e., "took place in the home of the bride's parents, Mr. and Mrs. > (whoever), on (address) Street." > > Other parental/family info is often obtained from family members' death > certificates (especially after 1916) - or obituaries (usually more "newsy" > after 1870). > > Hope this helps? Let me know if I can be of any assistance, ok? > > molly > > > > Molly Kennedy > P O Box 5785 > Springfield, IL 62705 > www.mollx.com > Genealogy - Confusing the dead, and annoying the living. > > > > > >From: "wiseowl" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [ILSANGAM-L] FERN E. MARTIN > >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:03:53 -0500 > > > >Hi Molly > >I was in Springfield Ill. a couiple years ago looking for marriage and land > >records. The marriage record did not give the bride and grooms parents > >names. Is there another record that gives parents names? > >Paul > > > > > > > > > > > >---- Original Message ----- > >From: "Molly Kennedy" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:26 AM > >Subject: RE: [ILSANGAM-L] FERN E. MARTIN > > > > > > > > > > Hi Marion - (and all) > > > > > > I live in Springfield, and do quite a bit of local & statewide research. > > > Yesterday (Mon) I needed to do some lookups at the Univ of IL > > > Springfield-campus IRAD (Regional Archives Depository) - - and while > > > awaiting their grad-student intern to finish copying an 1851 probate > >case > > > file for me, I looked through their original book of Sangamon Co > >Marriage > > > Index (Brides) - > > > > > > Your Fern E. Martin and Arthur F. Aber married in Sangamon County on > >July > > > 17, 1912 > > > > > > In this original Bride's index - this marriage item gave both the > >marriage > > > date AND that the license/record would be located in vol 9, pg 409. > > > > > > However - if one looked at the Marriage Index Books housed at the > >Sangamon > > > Co Clerk's office, the marriage date would not be listed in those > >books... > > > only a cert #; no date. They combined both their Brides and Grooms > >index > > > books many years ago (that's why the UIS IRAD was able to obtain the > > > original Brides book). > > > > > > Sangamon Co Clerk's office charges $12 for marriage license/return > > > (certified only). > > > > > > Let me know if I could be of any assistance, ok? > > > > > > molly > > > > > > Molly Kennedy > > > P O Box 5785 > > > Springfield, IL 62705 > > > www.mollx.com > > > Genealogy - Confusing the dead, and annoying the living. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: [email protected] > > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > > >To: [email protected] > > > >Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] FERN E. MARTIN > > > >Date: 5 Dec 2004 19:45:59 -0700 > > > > > > > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > > >Surnames: ABER, MALPASS, BAGOTT, RANKIN, GREENFIELD > > > >Classification: Query > > > > > > > >Message Board URL: > > > > > > > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2588 > > > > > > > >Message Board Post: > > > > > > > >Hi everyone, I am trying to locate a marriage date for Fern. E. > >Martin > >& > > > >Arthur Fredk. Aber. I believe from the Census information that they > >were > > > >married about 1911/12, in Springield, or Sangamon County.. Any help > >with > > > >this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marion > > > > > > > > > > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > > > >Search the Index to the 1904 Sangamon County History at: > > > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/histdex.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > > > List problems? 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