Hi! This church (Salem Sugar Creek) was just south of Lake Springfield near the State Police headquarters turnoff then east a mile or so, to the old Stout neighborhood. It is no longer there, but I do have a copy of the records and a photo of the church. This chart will show the names of the Crowders that I have in my database. Some of them are in churches in the White County, Illinois area. The Springfield #1 church is the Springfield church which was organized in 1830, and later went into the missionary system and is now the Central Baptist church in downtown Springfield. The Springfield in Cotton Hill township is a church which was organized on the bank of Howell's Spring Branch, southeast of present day Springfield, possibly before Springfield became the center of activity - maybe as early as 1824. I have a deed on this church. Best wishes, Robert NAME CHURCH Association Birth/Death JOINED Crowder, Charlotte Mt. Pleasant, Burnt Prairie Skillet Fork 1830 Jul Crowder, Elizabeth Mt. Pleasant, Burnt Prairie Skillet Fork 1831 Crowder, Elmyra Mt. Pleasant, Burnt Prairie Skillet Fork 1830 Jul Crowder, Jane Salem Sugar Creek, Chatham Sangamon 1842 Jul Crowder, John Springfield, Springfield (#1) Sangamon 1830 Jul Crowder, John Springfield, Cotton Hill Township Sangamon Crowder, Matthew P. Salem Sugar Creek, Chatham Sangamon Crowder, Nancy Mt. Pleasant, Burnt Prairie Skillet Fork 1844 Mar Crowder, Nancy Little Wabash, Crossville Skillet Fork Crowder, Stephen Mt. Pleasant, Burnt Prairie Skillet Fork 1844 Mar Crowder, William B. Head of Wood River (Long Run) Illinois, Apple Creek On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:59:10 -0500 Marilyn Underwood <res08p8g@verizon.net> writes: > Happy Holidays Robert: > > Been cleaning out files and saw this one I had saved - in case I > ever got > some free TIME before the end of the year. > > Are there any kind of dates when they appear and when the church > terminated > - or is it still there? > I don't seem to remember hearing that name when I was living up > there. I've > heard lots of reference to Sugar Creek but not as a church. Also, > were they > the only Crowders listed? > > Thanks for letting me 'butt' in. > > Mick - Fla > > Robert L Webb wrote: > > > Sally, > > I do find a Matthew P Crowder and Jane Crowder as members of > Salem > > Sugar Creek church (we have a copy of the records of this church), > which > > was organized in 1830, > > Robert > > > > > > > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > To post a message send to: > ILSANGAM-L@rootsweb.com > regardless of whether you subscribe to the list or the digest > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Were there any Allens there? Does this have membership for about 1850? thank you Nancy in Wa carealot@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L Webb" <bwebb9@juno.com> To: <ILSANGAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [ILSANGAM-L] Baptist Church > Hi! > This church (Salem Sugar Creek) was just south of Lake Springfield > near the State Police headquarters turnoff then east a mile or so, to the > old Stout neighborhood. It is no longer there, but I do have a copy of > the records and a photo of the church. > This chart will show the names of the Crowders that I have in my > database. Some of them are in churches in the White County, Illinois > area. The Springfield #1 church is the Springfield church which was > organized in 1830, and later went into the missionary system and is now > the Central Baptist church in downtown Springfield. The Springfield in > Cotton Hill township is a church which was organized on the bank of > Howell's Spring Branch, southeast of present day Springfield, possibly > before Springfield became the center of activity - maybe as early as > 1824. I have a deed on this church. > Best wishes, > Robert > > NAME CHURCH Association Birth/Death JOINED > Crowder, Charlotte Mt. Pleasant, Burnt Prairie Skillet Fork 1830 Jul > Crowder, Elizabeth Mt. Pleasant, Burnt Prairie Skillet Fork 1831 > Crowder, Elmyra Mt. Pleasant, Burnt Prairie Skillet Fork 1830 Jul > Crowder, Jane Salem Sugar Creek, Chatham Sangamon 1842 Jul > Crowder, John Springfield, Springfield (#1) Sangamon 1830 Jul > Crowder, John Springfield, Cotton Hill Township Sangamon > Crowder, Matthew P. Salem Sugar Creek, Chatham Sangamon > Crowder, Nancy Mt. Pleasant, Burnt Prairie Skillet Fork 1844 Mar > Crowder, Nancy Little Wabash, Crossville Skillet Fork > Crowder, Stephen Mt. Pleasant, Burnt Prairie Skillet Fork 1844 Mar > Crowder, William B. Head of Wood River (Long Run) Illinois, Apple Creek > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:59:10 -0500 Marilyn Underwood > <res08p8g@verizon.net> writes: > > Happy Holidays Robert: > > > > Been cleaning out files and saw this one I had saved - in case I > > ever got > > some free TIME before the end of the year. > > > > Are there any kind of dates when they appear and when the church > > terminated > > - or is it still there? > > I don't seem to remember hearing that name when I was living up > > there. I've > > heard lots of reference to Sugar Creek but not as a church. Also, > > were they > > the only Crowders listed? > > > > Thanks for letting me 'butt' in. > > > > Mick - Fla > > > > Robert L Webb wrote: > > > > > Sally, > > > I do find a Matthew P Crowder and Jane Crowder as members of > > Salem > > > Sugar Creek church (we have a copy of the records of this church), > > which > > > was organized in 1830, > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > > To post a message send to: > > ILSANGAM-L@rootsweb.com > > regardless of whether you subscribe to the list or the digest > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > Visit the Sangamon County Biography page! Many biographies with lots > of pictures, too! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/bio.htm >

Hellooo: Thanks alot! Yes I know the area, but had never heard of a church there. My folks lived out that way in Cottage Grove and before I moved down here (22 yrs), we lived in Chatham, and I worked in Spfld.on the by-pass then Iles Park Pl. so am very familiar with the cut-off - east and west! But then I wasn't into this 'FUN HOBBY' - you know, the relaxing kind - where you want to pull your hair out.......by the roots! Thanks for the listing, appreciate it. Marilyn - Fl. Robert L Webb wrote: > Hi! > This church (Salem Sugar Creek) was just south of Lake Springfield > near the State Police headquarters turnoff then east a mile or so, to the > old Stout neighborhood. It is no longer there, but I do have a copy of > the records and a photo of the church.