In my husband's family from IL, they quite often went by their second names, with the first one being more of an "honorary" one or whatever. His great-grandfather, Wm. David Duff, appears on the census as Wm., W. D. and most often as David - in his obituary he is referred to as David. One of his sons was named John Thomas, but always was known as "Uncle Tom" -- another, James Merritt was known as "Mett" -- only Charles Ebenezer used the name Charles. One time we were quite confused as on one census it indicated there was a young girl names Sarah (her mother's name, also) -- then on the next census they had a Jennie, but no Sarah and that stumped us a bit. However, later, from her obituary, we learned that her full name was Sarah Jane, and Jennie was a nickname for Jane. We used to think it was a tradition in that family and could not understand why, but since then I have noted others asking a similar question. I would think Mattie would be a nickname for Matilda - but one never knows for sure, I guess. Marlyn

Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1805 Surname: Dickson, Crowder, Hayes ------------------------- My Dicksons(Maude, Jessee, and R.E.) are in Moultrie county, but I have Crowders i Sangamon county that are somehow connected, or perhaps even one and the same.

I am so glad someone else is finding this nickname situation. In my grandmother's family, at least three of the sisters used their middle names in a nickname form as their first names and the initial of the first name for the middle--so confusing. Until I wised up, which took me several months, my research didn't go nearly as quickly. My grandmother's name was Martha, but they called her Mattie and her headstone reads as such. A different time and a very different people, but with unbelieveable strength to endure what they had to go through. Linda Hampton ----- Original Message ----- From: <MJD62@aol.com> To: <ILSANGAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [ILSANGAM-L] Nickname question > In my husband's family from IL, they quite often went by their second > names, with the first one being more of an "honorary" one or whatever. > His great-grandfather, Wm. David Duff, appears on the census as Wm., > W. D. and most often as David - in his obituary he is referred to as > David. One of his sons was named John Thomas, but always was > known as "Uncle Tom" -- another, James Merritt was known as "Mett" > -- only Charles Ebenezer used the name Charles. One time we were > quite confused as on one census it indicated there was a young girl > names Sarah (her mother's name, also) -- then on the next census > they had a Jennie, but no Sarah and that stumped us a bit. However, > later, from her obituary, we learned that her full name was Sarah > Jane, and Jennie was a nickname for Jane. We used to think it > was a tradition in that family and could not understand why, but > since then I have noted others asking a similar question. I would > think Mattie would be a nickname for Matilda - but one never > knows for sure, I guess. > > Marlyn > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Morris Myers, > list administrator, with questions concerning this list! > mailto: gmm00@amdahl.com > >

I am searching for Constant and Taylor relatives. My family is descended from Rezin Harlan Constant and his daughter Mary Catherine Constant who married David A Taylor. David A Taylor's son was Otto Taylor. His son, Walter L Taylor of Gibson City is my great grandfather (he turned 100 in August!) I am very new to this, and if you have any information that you can share, I would really appreciate it! ===== hdietz1@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

I am searching for Constant and Taylor relatives. My family is descended from Rezin Harlan Constant and his daughter Mary Catherine Constant who married David A Taylor. I am very new to this, and if you have any information that you can share, I would really appreciate it! ===== hdietz1@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

My Grandfather had a sister named Martha M. I do not know what her middle name was but it may have been Matilda as her mother was Matilda. She was always called Mattie. Is Mattie a nickname for Martha or could it be for Matilda? Margarette Davis

Try the State Historical Library to find teh German newspapers. They have a lot of old newspapers. Teh ones you want may or may not be among their collection. Dave H

Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1804 Surname: Allen ------------------------- Need Info on Joseph L.Allen And Sib Laura. Laura C. Allen was b. 1922, 1923 in Springfield Ill. Her father Joseph L. Allen was killed in a train accident (near or in Taylorville, Ill). don't have date. If anyone has any info please e-mail. Thanks Larry

Hi everyone! I have been researching information on my ancestors and I am trying to figure out where they are buried in the state of Illinois. Mainly I am researching under the name Hester (Roy and Thomas) but there should be some found under Townsend, Patrick and possibly Holzworth. I have searched a number of websites but I am not sure what else to do. I would really appreciate it if anyone has any ideas or suggestions that would help me out! I am very new at this and don't know exactly where to start. Thank you for your help! ~ Jamie JME2314@aol.com

Hi everyone can you still get free death certificates from certain years from the state of illinois if so does some kind soul out there have the e-mail address. thanks pattie

Yes, from the Illinois State Archives for years 1916-1947. They have an index; you provide the name, approximate date of death, and place of death. They will search (2 requests sent at a time only; do not send another until you have an answer), and send you uncertified photocopies of the records. To do it online, the address is http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/arcreq.s Pat Hansen -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Cooper [mailto:pcooper@peaknet.net] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 2:41 PM To: ILSANGAM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] Free death certificates Hi everyone can you still get free death certificates from certain years from the state of illinois if so does some kind soul out there have the e-mail address. thanks pattie ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== New - 4th Presbyterian Church INDEX, Springfield, IL http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/church.htm

Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1801 Surname: UTTERBACK, CARLILE, TROXEL ------------------------- Dear Tracy: Yes please put me in contact with your in-laws. That would be great. I am still searching Sangamon County for the family information. Thank you. Debbie

Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1799 Surname: BROSNAN, BROSNAHAN, BRESNAN, BRESNAHAN ------------------------- I am researching a very large group of Bresnahans and variations of the name who came to America in 1852 from Castleisland, Co.Kerry and settled in Columbus, Ohio and Chicago, Illinois. I found on the Illinois GenWeb a listing for a BERNARD WILLIAM BROSNAN who is buried at Camp Butler National Cemetery at Sangamon Co. Illinois. He was born May 16, 1920 and died May 2, 1972. He was a private in the U.S. Army. He rests in Plot E O 1407. I have good reason to believe he may be a part of one of the branches of my family. Is there any kind soul that could possibly look up an obit for him? Can anyone tell me how to find out more about him from the Cemetery or the Military? Thank you so much for any help you can provide. Nancy Sullivan NSull7@aol.com

Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1796 Surname: DONNER, TORRENCE ------------------------- Does anyone have any idea of the location of the Bennett Schoolhouse mentioned in The History of the Early Settlers of Sangamon County. Would have been in Sangamon County circa 1844. Thanks for any help. Jo Ann

Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Il/Sangamon/1795 Surname: Lott, Waddington, Clark, Orrill, Phillips, Burke ------------------------- Searching for the Lott family. Elijah "Frank" Lott, William Harrison Lott married Mabel Burke, Charles Lott. Dee http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/l/o/t/D-Lott/

Dear listers - Does anyone know if there is an archive of German Language newspapers from ca 1870-1910, Sangamon County? I am searching for 3 obituaries, and think they would be in the German Language papers, as all 3 people were immigrants. Thanks for your help, Judy

I missed it. I saw the sign as I drove past on the way to a soccer game, but had no time to stop. Thanks for the notice tho. Dave H

Here is something I found on the Montgomery list which I know will be of interest to all regarding use of LDS FHC's. They can be of great help to the researcher. Pat Hansen -----Original Message----- From: Juli Claussen & Tim Damian [mailto:timjuli@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 7:00 AM To: ILMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILMONTGO] Using LDS Family HIstory Center Dear Friends, I know many are not familiar with how to use the LDS Family History Centers, and the LDS Family Search web pages have changed it all a great deal. I just got the hang of it about a year ago, and it has helped me tremendously with my genealogical research. Here is my system. Find out where the nearest branch of the LDS Family History Center is located. It is best just to call up a local LDS church and ask, because when I checked for it on the web site the nearest one listed was 1 1/2 hrs away, while there was actually one right here in my town. Find out the hours too, because they are staffed by volunteers. Mine is only open 1 day/week. Go to www.familysearch.org , which is the LDS site. Go to "search catalog". If you have an unusual surname, you may wish to check out the "surname search" option. I usually go straight to "locality search". You can enter "Montgomery" and "Illinois", and it will show you a list of materials available for the county, such as census records, vital records, cemeteries, etc. When you look at the description of the items available, it will tell you at the top right if film notes are available. If not, it means this is a book that remains at the Salt Lake City library and does not circulate. However, most have film notes. Look at the film notes, and it will tell you if it is on microfilm and/or microfiche. Just make a note of the film/fiche title you want and it's number. I always just print out the description page and take it with me. Go to the local branch FHC, and order what you want there. It costs $3.25 to rent a microfilm for 4-6 weeks, and less than a dollar a page to get fiche, which then remain in that branch and don't have to be returned. The volunteer will call you when your order comes in, usually about 2 weeks here, and I go in on the day they are open and view it there on the microfilm readers. If you find something you want a copy of, they have a machine that can copy from the microfilm like a xerox machine. By using this resource, I am able to view records that I would only be otherwise able to see by going to the distant courthouses. I hope this is helpful! Juli Claussen ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== The RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative is supported by its users: RootsWeb would cease to exist if not for the support of folks like you. By becoming a Member, Sponsor, or Donor, you help RootsWeb provide Web and FTP space on thousands of genealogical topics, mailing lists for thousands of groups of genealogists with shared interests, and search engines to make huge amounts of genealogical data freely available to Internet genealogists.Become A Rootsweb Sponser Today! http://www.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/search Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

The Sangamon County Genealogical Society will host an open house from 10 am to 2 pm today at the society office 2856 S. 11th St. on the corner of Knox and 11th. Society members will be present to answer questions and assist the public. Information will be available about genealogical resources available in Springfield and Sangamon County.

Very possible this would connect to my BEAMs, but can't see one yet. Thanks for sending the information. Diana ddavis@logicsouth.com My Genealogy site updated 9/10/2000: http://www.my-ged.com/davis/