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    1. [ILSANGAM-L] New Online
    2. Shirley Aleguas
    3. At: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html and http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/p2index.html Morgan County: Addition obits for Bethel Cemetery - thanks to Charla Sulphur Springs Cemetery - with obits & pictures from Bob 1878 Morgan Bios - this index is now all online Greene County: Coronor's Book II entries for: Adkins, Ballard, Canady, Hopper, Little, Mayberry, Retherford (2), Stone (2), Suttles (2), Ware, Watts, and Winn Coroner's Book I entries for: Baines & McConathy 1881 Sangamon Bios : Ingles Williams 1885 Greene Bios: Black (2), Hobson (3) 1891 Sangamon Bio: Bolles 1891 Macoupin Bios: Kable (4) 1892 Cass Bio: Taylor 1904 Sangamon Bios: Tilson & Willett (2) Obits from Betty for Henderson & Reece

    02/11/2001 11:41:39
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] Early Settler's Book
    2. Bob Drennan
    3. Does anyone know if there are plans for a new publication of the "Early Settlers of Sangamon County"? What would it take? Thanks Bob Drennan

    02/11/2001 11:32:21
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] Where is Wolf Creek Cemetery?
    2. Gail
    3. Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1972 Surname: Keagle ------------------------- In search of Wolf Creek cemetery in Sangamon county.Looking for Joseph B.Keagle grave.

    02/11/2001 08:13:18
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] Adams
    2. Cathy Allen
    3. Adams surname Jess Montgomery Adams was born 16 July 1874 to WIlliam and Martha Adams. Jess was born in Springfield Ill. He had a brother Charley and sister Della. Also there were twin girls born in Texas. I'm looking for more info on the Adams from this area. Martha was from Montgomery Co. Ill, her parents were also. If anyone has information on this Adams please respond. Thanks Cathy

    02/11/2001 05:35:20
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] L D Cox
    2. Marian Cox
    3. Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1971 Surname: COX, DONNER ------------------------- I have no information about your Donner family, but the L D Cox you mentioned may be Lorenzo Dow Cox b 1817 Indiana. Came to Sangamon Co Ill by 1836 with parents and some siblings. Maybe that can help you pin something down. I have most of Lorenzo Dow Cox's descendants, but nothing about Donner children.

    02/11/2001 01:53:35
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] Patsy (Martha) Thornton
    2. Marian Cox
    3. Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1970 Surname: Thornton, Cox ------------------------- I am wondering if your Patsy (Martha) Thornton could be part of the Thornton family that lived in Jefferson Co Indiana. Lyman Thornton b ca 1808 married Margaret Cox in 1833 Jefferson Co Ind. Margaret Cox's parents and some siblings moved to Sangamon Co Illinois by 1836. Maybe there were some Thorntons that came with them, however, Lyman and Margaret stayed in Jefferson Co Ind and are buried there. Let me know if you think this may be part of your family.

    02/11/2001 01:40:45
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] Jacob Rape/ Patsy(Martha) Thornton
    2. Dorothy Eldredge
    3. Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1968 Surname: ------------------------- If you are interested in the family history , maybe I can help you out. I am the daughter of Burl, who was the son of Louis, who was the son of Josephus, who was a son to Jacob and Patsy. Jacob the son of Gustavus. I have all the children of Jacob with dates etc..

    02/10/2001 08:36:49
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] Bethel Church near Cantrall, Illinois
    2. Robert L Webb
    3. I'm a Primitive Baptist minister (in pioneer days, called Regular Baptist, or Predestinarian Baptist), and am trying to compile a history of our early pioneer churches, county by county. I'm presently trying to unravel the history of a church called Bethel. The story seems to begin, however, with a church called "Springfield" which was organized sometime between 1824 and 1827, southwest of present-day New City, in Cotton Hill township. The unique description of the deed on which this (log?) church once stood, begins with a certain white oak tree on the bank of Howell's Spring Branch. Samuel Howell and his wife, Polly Howell, gave the land to the "Springfield" church, in April 1830. The church's Trustees were Valentine R. Mallory, John Crowder, and John Dunlap. This church, Springfield, is listed in the 1828 minutes of the Sangamon Association, at which time it had 34 members. However, in May 1831, this "Springfield" church no longer is listed - and although I am not sure, I think probably because a new church with that name had been organized, in August 1830, in the village of Springfield proper. It is only supposition on my part, but I believe the old "Springfield" church in the country on the Spring Branch creek, changed its name to Bethel. There is a church listed in the May 1831 minutes, called Bethel, and its messengers are the same names as the members of the old Springfield church, and the number of members is about the same. Some of the members whose names appeared in this Springfield or Bethel church, before 1836, were John Dunlap (1785-1856), Elder Michael Mann, Samuel Howell, Elder Charles Harper, Samuel Hendrick, and William King. Michael Mann is shown as a member of the "Springfield" church in 1828, and also he and Samuel Howell are shown as members of the "Bethel" church in 1831. The association minutes for 1829 and 1830 have not survived. The next mystery associated with the history of this church, which I've been unable to solve, is that at least some of the Dunlaps later are found in the vicinity of Cantrall, in the northern part of the county, and are buried in the Brittin cemetery, and the Bethel church is described as being near there, around the turn of the last century (1900). I am hoping to find out if there was a church at or very near this Brittin Cemetery, and that it was called Bethel, and the Dunlaps were members there, including John Ray Dunlap and his wife Emily Ann Brown Dunlap, Isaac Dunlap, Susannah Dunlap Brown, Henry and Margaret C. Nave, James E. Brassfield, B. Brassfield, Elizabeth A. Bennett, S. W. Williams, Jennie Young Smith (wife of Stewart H. Smith), Eli Date, and others. S. W. Williams was the clerk of Bethel Church in about 1897-1899, and then was followed by Jennie Powers from at least 1902-1909. They were both from Athens, Illinois, which seems to identify the church as now being located in that vicinity, probably very near the Brittin Cemetery. I mention these because the clerk usually had the church records, and descendants of the clerks usually still have them, if they have not been destroyed. I am interested in trying to locate the church records, or a picture or deed which proves the location of Bethel Church perhaps being about a mile or two southeast of Cantrall, or, any other information anyone may wish to share. Sincerely, Elder Robert Webb ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    02/10/2001 12:46:55
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] DUNN in Sangamon-1839-46
    2. Pat Dunn
    3. Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1967 Surname: DUNN, FRIEND ------------------------- Hi, I am searching for any information on Elnathan Dunn (wife Nancy Friend) who were from Lockland, OH but lived in Springfield area Sangamon Co. between 1839 and 1846. At least one of their children , Silas Stuart Dunn was born there during that time. Elnathan is believed to have had something to do with building mills along the Salt River. Any info on this family will be appreciated. Thank you.

    02/10/2001 01:58:29
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] Relatives
    2. Diane Woodard
    3. Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1966 Surname: Etherton, Donavon ------------------------- I am trying to find out if there are any relatives of James E. Etherton anywhere in Sangamon Co. yet. He was the son of William Etherton and Lydia A. Money. Both of which are buried in the Mechanicsburg Cem. He was married at one time to Martha Donavon. She was apparently killed in an auto accident according to my g-grandmother's journal. Have heard he had at least one son by the name of Bernard. Not sure of this though. He lived in Dawson at the time of his father's death, March 14, 1907. This is all that I can find on this gentleman. Thanks for any help that anyone knows. Diane Woodard

    02/09/2001 10:36:28
    1. Re: [ILSANGAM-L] YOUNG, Henry H.:Sangemon County, IL: 18??-19??
    2. Sue Williams
    3. Hi Jackie, I know that you've been searching for this info for some time. It's easy to find. Harmon Jung mar. H. Luning on 2/Mar 1893 in Cantral, Menard Co IL. That's that info is available on the internet. So send to The Menard Co Courthouse along with one dollar and you'll receive their marriage license which is loaded with info. You can also send for Harmon Jung's death cert. By this time he's going by the name, Herman H Young. He died in Montgomery Co. The cert # is 0047001. You can also send for Anna C L Young's delayed birth cert. More info there. Anna's obit can be ordered from Lincoln Library in Spfld. Etc. May I offer a piece of advice? This is meant in the friendliest way possible......in your query you said he had one "known" dau. who married a Williams. You're stating this as documented fact. But you only know it because you've heard it "word of mouth".(Although, this is true. ) Genealogists must document all facts, or we lose our credibility. Hope I've helped, start sending out those requests. Best of luck, Sue | Surname: YOUNG, JUNG, LUNING, WILLIAM | ------------------------- | | I am looking for information on Henry H. YOUNG. He was married to Henrietta | "Jetty" LUNING in Menard County Illinios on March 2, 1893. They had one | known daughter named Anna who married a man with the last name of WILLIAMS. | and five known sons Otto, Walter, Henry, Harry and Carl. He died several | years before his wife. She died on October 27, 1848. Their last name was | "Americanized" from JUNG to YOUNG at some point. I believe that they lived | in the Springfield-Cantrell area in Sangemon County Illinois most of their | lives. | | Any information would be appreciated. Spelling of names may vary. Thanks | in advance. | | Jackie |

    02/09/2001 05:05:10
    1. Re: [ILSANGAM-L] YOUNG, Henry H.:Sangemon County, IL: 18??-19??
    2. Reba Gale
    3. AND then there is Dr William A Young who started practice in Springfield in 1892, married Callie Johnson in 1899 and lived on 2nd St. Been searching for info on them for a looooooooong time. Reba -----Original Message----- From: User120745@aol.com <User120745@aol.com> To: ILSANGAM-L@rootsweb.com <ILSANGAM-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [ILSANGAM-L] YOUNG, Henry H.:Sangemon County, IL: 18??-19?? >Jackie, >Are your Young's related to Robert A. Young (1829-1909)? He married Cassinda >Claypool and they lived in Menard Co. They are buried in Indian Point Cem. >Florence > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== >To post a message send to: >ILSANGAM-L@rootsweb.com >regardless of whether you subscribe to the list or the digest > >

    02/09/2001 01:10:14
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] Rademacher
    2. Gayle Rademacker
    3. Posted on: Sangamon County, Il Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Sangamon/1965 Surname: Rademacher, Wilms, Hobbie, Hudspeth, Behrens, Heerten ------------------------- My husband's relatives lived in the Sangamon area. They came to America from Germany in 1867. Any help on finding information on these names would be appreciated.

    02/08/2001 01:32:49
    1. Re: [ILSANGAM-L] YOUNG, Henry H.:Sangemon County, IL: 18??-19??
    2. Jackie, Are your Young's related to Robert A. Young (1829-1909)? He married Cassinda Claypool and they lived in Menard Co. They are buried in Indian Point Cem. Florence

    02/08/2001 11:06:08
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] New Online
    2. Shirley Aleguas
    3. Greene County: Book 2 - Coroner's Inquest Hearings - 1884-1919 1881 Sangamon Co. Bios: Hay (2), Ridgely (4) 1885 Greene Co. Bio: McKabney 1891 Macoupin Co. Bios: Eldred (2) 1904 Sangamon Bio: Boysel 1905 Greene Co. Bios: Eldred (5), Hubbard All can be found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/p2index.html

    02/08/2001 10:44:42
    1. Re: [ILSANGAM-L] [Fwd: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail.]]
    2. There is no such bill. I have check the congression site and the site of Senator Boxer, receiving email from her assuring that this bill 602P does NOT exist. mary d

    02/08/2001 07:04:43
    1. Re: [ILSANGAM-L] [Fwd: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail.]]
    2. Anne Shaughnessy
    3. Mary D. Thanks for noting the error of this message. It has become another "urban legend", I fear. Anne Shaughnessy --- MLDAVIS717@aol.com wrote: > There is no such bill. I have check the congression > site and the site of > Senator Boxer, receiving email from her assuring > that this bill 602P does NOT > exist. > > mary d > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > Visit the Sangamon County Biography page! Many > biographies with lots > of pictures, too! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/bio.htm > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

    02/08/2001 06:45:40
    1. RE: [ILSANGAM-L] [Fwd: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail.]]
    2. Pat Hansen
    3. This is not true; it is a hoax! It does not even show the proper coding of a Senate or House bill and has been hovering on the Internet for at least a year. I have encountered it a couple of times before. Do not forward it anymore; it will only cause false concern. Pat Hansen -----Original Message----- From: gwen5353 [mailto:gwen5353@sbt.infi.net] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:44 AM To: ILSANGAM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] [Fwd: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail.]] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A18DE410006EA6736CDEFAAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------A18DE410006EA6736CDEFAAE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <WESTEX-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([63.92.80.123]) by runyon.mail.mindspring.net (Mindspring Mail Service) with ESMTP id t8330t.m0d.37kbi7f for <gwen5353@infi.net>; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:55:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f17HoXp08395; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:50:33 -0800 Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:50:33 -0800 X-Original-Sender: ecrocoil@camalott.com Wed Feb 7 09:50:28 2001 Message-ID: <3A818E6C.66413B3B@camalott.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:05:34 -0600 From: Eveline Crocker <ecrocoil@camalott.com> Reply-To: lone_star@email.com Organization: HN Crocker Drilling ; King Crocker Ranch; X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: TXSHACKE-L@rootsweb.com, "SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com" <SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com>, WESTEX-ROOTS-L <WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>, "Leigh, Kathy" <rkleigh@bwn.net>, "Lucas, Donnie" <dalucas@camalott.com>, "Pettit, Burle" <" bpettit"@lubbockonline.com>, "askcooke@sdsbbs.spedat.com" <askcooke@sdsbbs.spedat.com>, Bane <Banegen@aol.com>, Dean Crocker <crockerd@winthrop.edu>, "mail.mev.net" <jbean@mev.net>, "Dalton, Carolyn" <dalton1@gamewood.net>, "Crocker, Dwight" <bigdee@arn.net> Old-CC: TXSHACKE-L@rootsweb.com, Ella Bond <ebond@panacon.com>, "\"\\\"Doc\\\" Gecko\"" <azgecko@flash.net>, "kflynn@naples.infi.net" <kflynn@naples.infi.net>, "dsaa5@airmail.net McCarter" <dsaa5@airmail.net> X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail.] Resent-Message-ID: <vlsbrD.A.5CC.orYg6@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/943 X-Loop: WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: WESTEX-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com I feel each and everyone of us need to know about this action and attempt to prevent it from being approved by writing our congressmen, asking them to vote NO. TO THE LIST MODERATORS! This does concern GENEALOGY MAILING LISTS. Have a Happy Day! Regards Eveline Crocker Texas -------- Original Message -------- From: "marge" <marges@webzone.net> Subject: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail. To: "marge" <marges@webzone.net> I guess the warnings were true. Federal Bill 602P 5-cents per email sent. It figures! No more free e-mail! We knew this was coming. Bill 602P will permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent charge on every delivered e-mail. Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay online, and continue using email. The last few months have revealed an alarming trend in the government of the United States attempting to quietly push through legislation that will affect our use of the Internet. Under proposed legislation, the US Postal Service will be attempting to bill e-mail users out of alternative postage fees. Bill 602P will permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge on every email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from becoming law. The US Postal Service is claiming lost revenue, due to the proliferation of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per year. You may have noticed their recent ad campaign. There is nothing like a letter. Since the average person received about 10 pieces of e-mail per day in 1998, the cost of the typical individual would be an additional .50 cents per day - or over $180.00 a year - above and beyond their regular Internet cost. Note that this would be money paid directly to the US Postal Service for a service they do not even provide. The whole point of the Internet is democracy and noninterference. You are already paying an exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic efficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from coast to coast. If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker with e-mail, it will mark the end of the free Internet in the United States. Our congressional representative, Toney Shcnekll (R) has even suggested a $20.00 - $40.00 per month surcharge on all Internet service above and beyond the governments proposed e-mail charges. Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored the story - the only exception being the Washingtonian - which called the idea of e-mail surcharge a useful concept who's time has come(March 6th, 1999 editorial). Do not sit by and watch your freedom erode away! Send this email to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write their congressional representative and say NO to bill 602P. It will only take a few moments of your time and could very well be instrumental in killing a bill we do not want. Please forward this email. --------------A18DE410006EA6736CDEFAAE-- ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== Search for a Sangamon County Marriage 1879-1881, includes age, residence at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/marr1879.htm

    02/08/2001 05:07:36
    1. [ILSANGAM-L] [Fwd: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail.]]
    2. gwen5353
    3. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A18DE410006EA6736CDEFAAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------A18DE410006EA6736CDEFAAE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <WESTEX-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([63.92.80.123]) by runyon.mail.mindspring.net (Mindspring Mail Service) with ESMTP id t8330t.m0d.37kbi7f for <gwen5353@infi.net>; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:55:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f17HoXp08395; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:50:33 -0800 Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:50:33 -0800 X-Original-Sender: ecrocoil@camalott.com Wed Feb 7 09:50:28 2001 Message-ID: <3A818E6C.66413B3B@camalott.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:05:34 -0600 From: Eveline Crocker <ecrocoil@camalott.com> Reply-To: lone_star@email.com Organization: HN Crocker Drilling ; King Crocker Ranch; X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: TXSHACKE-L@rootsweb.com, "SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com" <SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com>, WESTEX-ROOTS-L <WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>, "Leigh, Kathy" <rkleigh@bwn.net>, "Lucas, Donnie" <dalucas@camalott.com>, "Pettit, Burle" <" bpettit"@lubbockonline.com>, "askcooke@sdsbbs.spedat.com" <askcooke@sdsbbs.spedat.com>, Bane <Banegen@aol.com>, Dean Crocker <crockerd@winthrop.edu>, "mail.mev.net" <jbean@mev.net>, "Dalton, Carolyn" <dalton1@gamewood.net>, "Crocker, Dwight" <bigdee@arn.net> Old-CC: TXSHACKE-L@rootsweb.com, Ella Bond <ebond@panacon.com>, "\"\\\"Doc\\\" Gecko\"" <azgecko@flash.net>, "kflynn@naples.infi.net" <kflynn@naples.infi.net>, "dsaa5@airmail.net McCarter" <dsaa5@airmail.net> X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail.] Resent-Message-ID: <vlsbrD.A.5CC.orYg6@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/943 X-Loop: WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: WESTEX-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com I feel each and everyone of us need to know about this action and attempt to prevent it from being approved by writing our congressmen, asking them to vote NO. TO THE LIST MODERATORS! This does concern GENEALOGY MAILING LISTS. Have a Happy Day! Regards Eveline Crocker Texas -------- Original Message -------- From: "marge" <marges@webzone.net> Subject: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail. To: "marge" <marges@webzone.net> I guess the warnings were true. Federal Bill 602P 5-cents per email sent. It figures! No more free e-mail! We knew this was coming. Bill 602P will permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent charge on every delivered e-mail. Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay online, and continue using email. The last few months have revealed an alarming trend in the government of the United States attempting to quietly push through legislation that will affect our use of the Internet. Under proposed legislation, the US Postal Service will be attempting to bill e-mail users out of alternative postage fees. Bill 602P will permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge on every email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from becoming law. The US Postal Service is claiming lost revenue, due to the proliferation of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per year. You may have noticed their recent ad campaign. There is nothing like a letter. Since the average person received about 10 pieces of e-mail per day in 1998, the cost of the typical individual would be an additional .50 cents per day - or over $180.00 a year - above and beyond their regular Internet cost. Note that this would be money paid directly to the US Postal Service for a service they do not even provide. The whole point of the Internet is democracy and noninterference. You are already paying an exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic efficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from coast to coast. If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker with e-mail, it will mark the end of the free Internet in the United States. Our congressional representative, Toney Shcnekll (R) has even suggested a $20.00 - $40.00 per month surcharge on all Internet service above and beyond the governments proposed e-mail charges. Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored the story - the only exception being the Washingtonian - which called the idea of e-mail surcharge a useful concept who's time has come(March 6th, 1999 editorial). Do not sit by and watch your freedom erode away! Send this email to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write their congressional representative and say NO to bill 602P. It will only take a few moments of your time and could very well be instrumental in killing a bill we do not want. Please forward this email. --------------A18DE410006EA6736CDEFAAE--

    02/08/2001 04:43:31
    1. Re: [ILSANGAM-L] [Fwd: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail.]]
    2. Tizame
    3. Please donor forward this on again.................... heard this again an again.................... Not True!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "gwen5353" <gwen5353@sbt.infi.net> To: <ILSANGAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] [Fwd: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail.]] > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------A18DE410006EA6736CDEFAAE > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > --------------A18DE410006EA6736CDEFAAE > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <WESTEX-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([63.92.80.123]) > by runyon.mail.mindspring.net (Mindspring Mail Service) with ESMTP id t8330t.m0d.37kbi7f > for <gwen5353@infi.net>; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:55:41 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f17HoXp08395; > Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:50:33 -0800 > Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:50:33 -0800 > X-Original-Sender: ecrocoil@camalott.com Wed Feb 7 09:50:28 2001 > Message-ID: <3A818E6C.66413B3B@camalott.com> > Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:05:34 -0600 > From: Eveline Crocker <ecrocoil@camalott.com> > Reply-To: lone_star@email.com > Organization: HN Crocker Drilling ; King Crocker Ranch; > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Old-To: TXSHACKE-L@rootsweb.com, > "SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com" <SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com>, > WESTEX-ROOTS-L <WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>, > "Leigh, Kathy" <rkleigh@bwn.net>, "Lucas, Donnie" <dalucas@camalott.com>, > "Pettit, Burle" <" bpettit"@lubbockonline.com>, > "askcooke@sdsbbs.spedat.com" <askcooke@sdsbbs.spedat.com>, > Bane <Banegen@aol.com>, Dean Crocker <crockerd@winthrop.edu>, > "mail.mev.net" <jbean@mev.net>, "Dalton, Carolyn" <dalton1@gamewood.net>, > "Crocker, Dwight" <bigdee@arn.net> > Old-CC: TXSHACKE-L@rootsweb.com, Ella Bond <ebond@panacon.com>, > "\"\\\"Doc\\\" Gecko\"" <azgecko@flash.net>, > "kflynn@naples.infi.net" <kflynn@naples.infi.net>, > "dsaa5@airmail.net McCarter" <dsaa5@airmail.net> > X-Priority: 1 (Highest) > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail.] > Resent-Message-ID: <vlsbrD.A.5CC.orYg6@lists5.rootsweb.com> > To: WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/943 > X-Loop: WESTEX-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: WESTEX-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > I feel each and everyone of us need to know about this action and attempt to prevent it from being approved by writing our congressmen, asking them to vote NO. > TO THE LIST MODERATORS! > This does concern GENEALOGY MAILING LISTS. > Have a Happy Day! > Regards > Eveline Crocker > Texas > -------- Original Message -------- > From: "marge" <marges@webzone.net> > Subject: Bill 602P Charges for e-mail. > To: "marge" <marges@webzone.net> > > I guess the warnings were true. Federal Bill 602P > 5-cents per email sent. It figures! No more free > e-mail! We knew this was coming. > > Bill 602P will permit the Federal Government to charge > > a 5-cent charge on every delivered e-mail. Please read > > the following carefully if you intend to stay online, > and continue using email. The last few months have > revealed an alarming trend in the government of the > United States attempting to quietly push through > legislation that will affect our use of the Internet. > Under proposed legislation, the US Postal Service will > > be attempting to bill e-mail users out of alternative > postage fees. > > Bill 602P will permit the Federal Government to charge > > a 5-cent surcharge on every email delivered, by > billing Internet Service Providers at source. The > consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. > Washington DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without > pay to prevent this legislation from becoming law. > > The US Postal Service is claiming lost revenue, due to > the proliferation of email is costing nearly > $230,000,000 in revenue per year. You may have noticed > their recent ad campaign. There is nothing like a > letter. > > Since the average person received about 10 pieces of > e-mail per day in 1998, the cost of the typical > individual would be an additional .50 > cents per day - or over $180.00 a year - above and > beyond their regular Internet cost. > > Note that this would be money paid directly to the US > Postal Service for a service they do not even provide. > > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and > noninterference. You are already paying an exorbitant > price for snail mail because of bureaucratic > efficiency. > > It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be > delivered from coast to coast. If the US Postal > Service is allowed to tinker with e-mail, it > will mark the end of the free Internet in the United > States. > > Our congressional representative, Toney Shcnekll (R) > has even suggested a $20.00 - $40.00 per month > surcharge on all Internet service above and > beyond the governments proposed e-mail charges. > Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored > the story - the only exception being the Washingtonian > > - which called the idea of e-mail surcharge a useful > concept who's time has come(March 6th, 1999 > editorial). > > Do not sit by and watch your freedom erode away! > Send this email to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all > > your friends and relatives to write their > congressional representative and say NO to bill 602P. > It will only take a few moments of your time and could > very well be instrumental in killing a bill we do not > want. > Please forward this email. > > > --------------A18DE410006EA6736CDEFAAE-- > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > Search for a Sangamon County Marriage 1879-1881, includes age, > residence at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/marr1879.htm > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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