I am looking for researchers of Abraham Coleman and Amanda Shutt (1860's Sangamon County). Thanks Gloria [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

Hi Molly I was in Springfield Ill. a couiple years ago looking for marriage and land records. The marriage record did not give the bride and grooms parents names. Is there another record that gives parents names? Paul ---- Original Message ----- From: "Molly Kennedy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:26 AM Subject: RE: [ILSANGAM-L] FERN E. MARTIN > > Hi Marion - (and all) > > I live in Springfield, and do quite a bit of local & statewide research. > Yesterday (Mon) I needed to do some lookups at the Univ of IL > Springfield-campus IRAD (Regional Archives Depository) - - and while > awaiting their grad-student intern to finish copying an 1851 probate case > file for me, I looked through their original book of Sangamon Co Marriage > Index (Brides) - > > Your Fern E. Martin and Arthur F. Aber married in Sangamon County on July > 17, 1912 > > In this original Bride's index - this marriage item gave both the marriage > date AND that the license/record would be located in vol 9, pg 409. > > However - if one looked at the Marriage Index Books housed at the Sangamon > Co Clerk's office, the marriage date would not be listed in those books... > only a cert #; no date. They combined both their Brides and Grooms index > books many years ago (that's why the UIS IRAD was able to obtain the > original Brides book). > > Sangamon Co Clerk's office charges $12 for marriage license/return > (certified only). > > Let me know if I could be of any assistance, ok? > > molly > > Molly Kennedy > P O Box 5785 > Springfield, IL 62705 > www.mollx.com > Genealogy - Confusing the dead, and annoying the living. > > > > > >From: [email protected] > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] FERN E. MARTIN > >Date: 5 Dec 2004 19:45:59 -0700 > > > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > >Surnames: ABER, MALPASS, BAGOTT, RANKIN, GREENFIELD > >Classification: Query > > > >Message Board URL: > > > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2588 > > > >Message Board Post: > > > >Hi everyone, I am trying to locate a marriage date for Fern. E. Martin & > >Arthur Fredk. Aber. I believe from the Census information that they were > >married about 1911/12, in Springield, or Sangamon County.. Any help with > >this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marion > > > > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > >Search the Index to the 1904 Sangamon County History at: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/histdex.htm > > > > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Morris Myers, > list administrator, with questions concerning this list! > mailto: [email protected] > >

HI Paul - Marriage records in IL prior to 1878 do not (as a norm) have parental information (unless one of the bridal party was under-aged, and the parental/guardian permission slip survived long enough to be microfilmed). After 1878 - the bridal couple were to complete a marriage Application - and in most IL counties (except Cook... they seem to have their own rules) - this application (or its equivelant, the marriage Return) still survive. Marriage applications/returns give parental info. For marriages prior to 1878 - - - family & parental info may be gleaned from Census findings (state, Federal) - or newspaper articles/mentions of the marriage (i.e., "took place in the home of the bride's parents, Mr. and Mrs. (whoever), on (address) Street." Other parental/family info is often obtained from family members' death certificates (especially after 1916) - or obituaries (usually more "newsy" after 1870). Hope this helps? Let me know if I can be of any assistance, ok? molly Molly Kennedy P O Box 5785 Springfield, IL 62705 www.mollx.com Genealogy - Confusing the dead, and annoying the living. >From: "wiseowl" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ILSANGAM-L] FERN E. MARTIN >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:03:53 -0500 > >Hi Molly >I was in Springfield Ill. a couiple years ago looking for marriage and land >records. The marriage record did not give the bride and grooms parents >names. Is there another record that gives parents names? >Paul > > > > > >---- Original Message ----- >From: "Molly Kennedy" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:26 AM >Subject: RE: [ILSANGAM-L] FERN E. MARTIN > > > > > > Hi Marion - (and all) > > > > I live in Springfield, and do quite a bit of local & statewide research. > > Yesterday (Mon) I needed to do some lookups at the Univ of IL > > Springfield-campus IRAD (Regional Archives Depository) - - and while > > awaiting their grad-student intern to finish copying an 1851 probate >case > > file for me, I looked through their original book of Sangamon Co >Marriage > > Index (Brides) - > > > > Your Fern E. Martin and Arthur F. Aber married in Sangamon County on >July > > 17, 1912 > > > > In this original Bride's index - this marriage item gave both the >marriage > > date AND that the license/record would be located in vol 9, pg 409. > > > > However - if one looked at the Marriage Index Books housed at the >Sangamon > > Co Clerk's office, the marriage date would not be listed in those >books... > > only a cert #; no date. They combined both their Brides and Grooms >index > > books many years ago (that's why the UIS IRAD was able to obtain the > > original Brides book). > > > > Sangamon Co Clerk's office charges $12 for marriage license/return > > (certified only). > > > > Let me know if I could be of any assistance, ok? > > > > molly > > > > Molly Kennedy > > P O Box 5785 > > Springfield, IL 62705 > > www.mollx.com > > Genealogy - Confusing the dead, and annoying the living. > > > > > > > > > > >From: [email protected] > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] FERN E. MARTIN > > >Date: 5 Dec 2004 19:45:59 -0700 > > > > > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > >Surnames: ABER, MALPASS, BAGOTT, RANKIN, GREENFIELD > > >Classification: Query > > > > > >Message Board URL: > > > > > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2588 > > > > > >Message Board Post: > > > > > >Hi everyone, I am trying to locate a marriage date for Fern. E. >Martin >& > > >Arthur Fredk. Aber. I believe from the Census information that they >were > > >married about 1911/12, in Springield, or Sangamon County.. Any help >with > > >this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marion > > > > > > > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > > >Search the Index to the 1904 Sangamon County History at: > > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/histdex.htm > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Morris Myers, > > list administrator, with questions concerning this list! > > mailto: [email protected] > > > > > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== >4th Presbyterian Church INDEX, Springfield, IL >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/church.htm >

Hi Marion - (and all) I live in Springfield, and do quite a bit of local & statewide research. Yesterday (Mon) I needed to do some lookups at the Univ of IL Springfield-campus IRAD (Regional Archives Depository) - - and while awaiting their grad-student intern to finish copying an 1851 probate case file for me, I looked through their original book of Sangamon Co Marriage Index (Brides) - Your Fern E. Martin and Arthur F. Aber married in Sangamon County on July 17, 1912 In this original Bride's index - this marriage item gave both the marriage date AND that the license/record would be located in vol 9, pg 409. However - if one looked at the Marriage Index Books housed at the Sangamon Co Clerk's office, the marriage date would not be listed in those books... only a cert #; no date. They combined both their Brides and Grooms index books many years ago (that's why the UIS IRAD was able to obtain the original Brides book). Sangamon Co Clerk's office charges $12 for marriage license/return (certified only). Let me know if I could be of any assistance, ok? molly Molly Kennedy P O Box 5785 Springfield, IL 62705 www.mollx.com Genealogy - Confusing the dead, and annoying the living. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] FERN E. MARTIN >Date: 5 Dec 2004 19:45:59 -0700 > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: ABER, MALPASS, BAGOTT, RANKIN, GREENFIELD >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2588 > >Message Board Post: > >Hi everyone, I am trying to locate a marriage date for Fern. E. Martin & >Arthur Fredk. Aber. I believe from the Census information that they were >married about 1911/12, in Springield, or Sangamon County.. Any help with >this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marion > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== >Search the Index to the 1904 Sangamon County History at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/histdex.htm >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2589 Message Board Post: Would appreciate any info on the ancestors of Leven F. Summers and any other info on this family. Thanks, Betty [email protected]

Have you tried IRAD, the official IL records site? I can never remember their long URL, but do a search on IRAD and it'll pop right up. You can search on other vital records at that site too. And even order copies. Doris Waggoner Seattle On 5 Dec 2004 19:45:59 -0700 [email protected] writes: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: ABER, MALPASS, BAGOTT, RANKIN, GREENFIELD > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2588 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi everyone, I am trying to locate a marriage date for Fern. E. > Martin & Arthur Fredk. Aber. I believe from the Census information > that they were married about 1911/12, in Springield, or Sangamon > County.. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, > Marion > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== > Search the Index to the 1904 Sangamon County History at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/histdex.htm > > >

I believe the address for the Lincoln residence is 8th & Edwards, if that helps any.

I'm not a Lincoln scholar but have read a bit about his career because it tangentially touches that of one of my ancestors in Sangamon Co. I read a book called "Lincoln's Friends" which gave the address of the family when Lincoln was in the state legislature, as well as at other times. I don't remember if that was in 1854. That book talked about his children, but I don't remember it mentioning where they went to school--that wasn't what I was reading it for. But the family's address might help you. Sorry I don't remember the author, but it is recent, and you could find it Amazon. You can search contents of some books on Amazon, and perhaps this is one of them, since it was widely reviewed when it came out within the last couple of years. Of course if someone on the list can tell you what you need to know, that's more direct! Hope this is of some help, Doris Waggoner Seattle -- "jan" <[email protected]> wrote: What school did Robert Lincoln, Abe Lincoln`s son, attend in LSpringfield, Ill and where was it located in 1854? ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== To post a message send to: [email protected] You must be a subscriber to the list or the digest

As a child in Springfield, Robert attended an cademy operated by a man named Abel W. Estabrook (not Esterbrook; the correct spelling was noted by Dr. Wayne C. Temple on p. 42 of the Spring, 2000, edition of the Lincoln Herald). In 1853, Robert enrolled in the Illinois State University (in Springfield) which was a preparatory school with our instructors. Apparently the studies weren't difficult. In Robert's own words, "We did just what pleased us, study consuming only a very small portion of our time." In 1859 Robert applied to Harvard, but he failed its entrance examinations. It was apparent his education in Springfield was quite deficient.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ABER, MALPASS, BAGOTT, RANKIN, GREENFIELD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2588 Message Board Post: Hi everyone, I am trying to locate a marriage date for Fern. E. Martin & Arthur Fredk. Aber. I believe from the Census information that they were married about 1911/12, in Springield, or Sangamon County.. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marion

If you change the spelling to PODESCHI - you'll find several still alive in Taylorville, and who have telephone listings -- - OR - you could contact St. Mary's Church in Taylorville, and ask for a recent copy of their parishioner's booklet. molly Molly Kennedy P O Box 5785 Springfield, IL 62705 www.mollx.com Genealogy - Confusing the dead, and annoying the living. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] Podeski in Taylorville >Date: 4 Dec 2004 15:44:11 -0700 > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2587 > >Message Board Post: > >I am trying to locate any Podeskis, descendants of Bernardine Gottsacker >Podeski and Paul Podeski (some spellings are 'Podeshi'). I believe a >picture of a Gottsacker immigrant to the US is still in this family. >Bernardine and Paul lived in Taylorville, IL. Any information would be >appreciated. > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== >Search for a Sangamon County Marriage 1879-1881, includes age, >residence at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/marr1879.htm >

What school did Robert Lincoln, Abe Lincoln`s son, attend in LSpringfield, Ill and where was it located in 1854?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2587 Message Board Post: I am trying to locate any Podeskis, descendants of Bernardine Gottsacker Podeski and Paul Podeski (some spellings are 'Podeshi'). I believe a picture of a Gottsacker immigrant to the US is still in this family. Bernardine and Paul lived in Taylorville, IL. Any information would be appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: England, Hodges, Snedigar, Baney, Sheppard Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2580.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Just curious if anyone has any information regarding, ANDREW JACKSON ENGLAND my great grandfather, who also came to Illinois from Kentucky. (Stephen England was the brother of my gg grandfather David England b. 1778.) I know my grandmother came across the plains in a covered wagon when she was a young girl from Bath County, Kentucky to the Sangamon Co., Illinois area. I think maybe mid to late 1870's or early 1880? or so--not sure when. I would like to know about that trip if anyone has information--I have none. All I know is my grandmother was a young girl. I had no idea who the ancestors of the first David England were. Great information! Here's my direct line: David England (b. 1754-Revolutionary War Soldier) and Lucy Hodges b. 1757 (my ggg Grandparents) David England (b. 1778) and Mary Jane ??--I think maybe Lynam? gg grandparents Andrew Jackson England (b. 1836--Civil War Soldier) and Margaret M. Snedigar (b. 1839) great grandparents Mary Lucy England Baney (b. 1872) and Harry Edwin Baney (b. 1870) grandparents Lewis Edwin Baney (b. 1917) and Marjorie Eileen Sheppard (b. 1916) parents Any information regarding any of my lines is appreciated! I'd also love to know about the trip Stephen England made across the plains to Illinois as one of the first settlers. That must have been one heck of a journey! Thanks Marsha If you want to, Email me direct: [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SHRIMPF, MCMULLEN, HAMMAN, MILLER, ROENIKE, ROENNIGKE, WOELNER, REIFSCHNEIDER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2586 Message Board Post: Hello! Looking for any connection to this family. They moved to SANGAMON COUNTY, IL after 1861. I found them in the 1870 and 1880 census but nothing else. In the 1870 census my gggrandfather is spelled Martha instead of Mathew. Boy, can those census takers spell! 1870 census Gardner Twp, SPRINGFIELD P.O., SANGAMON County, IL Martha (MATHEW) SHRIMPF 38 M W Farmer $18500 $900 Wuerttemburg MARY 39 F W Wuerttemburg JACOB 17 M W OH CATHARINE 15 F W OH JOHN 13 M W OH SARAH 12 F W OH MARY 11 F W OH CLARA 9 F W OH Family moves to IL 1861-1864 MELIA 6 F W IL (This should read AMELIA) WILLIAM 3 M W IL HENRY 1 M W IL 1880 Census BALL Twp, SANGAMON County, IL pg 17 Enum dist #199 SHRIMFFS MATHEW M W 48 farmer Wertenburg Margret (?) F W 51 (?) keephouse Wertenburg JOHN M W 23 farmer OH MARY F W 20 servant OH AMELIA F W 14 at home OH (? IL) WILLIAM M W 13 at home IL CLARA F W 12 (first Clara died?)IL HENRY M W 10 at home IL TRACY M W 6 at home IL I am the GGrandaughter of Amelia. She married JOHN DAVID MCMULLEN in Jewell County, KS in 1886 Would love to hear from anyone with info Robin Landgren [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2585 Message Board Post: I would appreciate any information on George Hoard that died 1-22-1931 in Sangamon County, Illinois and would appreciate help with a lookup of this obt. He was a brother to my greatgrandmother Margaret Hoard Allen from Ky.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bailey, Glascock, Sutheard Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2584 Message Board Post: Source: "The Stewart-Houston Times" Newspaper, a bi-county newspaper for both Stewart County and Houston County in Tennessee. Date of Newspaper: Tuesday, November 29, 2004 Page: A-3 Name: Melvin Albert Bailey Age: 84 Born: May 8, 1920 in Cantral, Sangamon County, Illinois Died: Friday, November 26, 2004 at Gateway Medical Center, Clarksville, Montgomery County, Tennessee Funeral: Saturday, November 27, 2007 with Anglin Funeral Home Burial: Taylor Cemetery Parents: Albert Bailey and Elsie (Glascock) Bailey Surviving Spouse: Rose Bailey Surviving Children: Terry Bailey Surviving Siblings: Charles Bailey, Eline Sutheard Anyone interested in a copy of the full and original obituary please contact me at [email protected] for details.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2583.1.1 Message Board Post: Connie, I found a printout of the 1870 census in a book at the Urbana Public Library (Illinois). I'm delighted to hear from you and hope we can find a connection. I'm researching this family for my half brother. Mary O'Shea is his great grandmother. I'm off to do some volunteer work but will find a copy of the census from the book (I think I have a copy), scan it and send it to you via email. Thanks for responding! Patricia

As part of a project on the "Long Nine", I would like to get copies of any obituaries that might have appeared in Springfield papers for these men and their wives. Because of their significance to the community, I believe that most would have appeared there, even if they died elsewhere. I have approximate dates of death for most, but can't travel to Springfield for the foreseeable future. If you are willing to look up obituaries in newspaper microfilms at any of the local libraries, please contact me off-list so that we can discuss expenses, etc. For those who don't know, the "Long Nine" were a group of legislators from Sangamon County that included Senators Archer G. Herndon and Job Fletcher and Representatives Abraham Lincoln, Ninian Wirt Edwards, John Dawson, Andrew McCormick, Dan Stone, William F. Elkin, and Robert L. Wilson. The name "The Long Nine" comes from the fact that these men averaged six feet in height and weighed over 200 pounds. Their efforts in the 1836-1838 legislative session were successful in moving the State capital from Vandalia to Springfield. Wilson DeCamp Vienna, VA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2583.1 Message Board Post: I have the same family of names in my "O'Shea" family in Sangamon, with roughly the same ages, but haven't found them in the censuses yet. Where is the 1870 Sangamon location? If this is the same family, I have compiled information that I am willing to share. Connie