Agnes Vance Owens was born Dec. 1824 and died in Springfield, IL sometime between 5 June 1900 (time of the census) and the 1910 census. In 1900 she was living with her daughter Leonora Sidener. I have not been able to find her death date because it is not yet online. Does anyone have access to Sangamon Co. death records or obituaries that might mention Agnes Owens? I would love to be able to confirm that James Vance was her father. Thanks, Carole

Charlotte: I have the booklets from Sangamon Co. Genealogical Society: Naturalizations - Declarations of Intent Obits - 1861-1896 Index to Record of Letters/Wills 1850-1901 Cemeteries of Cotton Hill Township (covers Breckenridge, Brunk, Horse Creek, Rape & Rusk, South Fork, Taylor, Vigal, Zion, Eldridge, Funderburk) Birth Records 7-1860 - Sept. 1878 Physician's Certificate of Death 1878-1890 Estate Record Index - Probate Estates 1-6684 1821=1907 1880 Federal Census - Sangamon Co. Logan Co., Il. Cemetery Inscriptions Vol. VI - covers St. Mary's, W.Lincoln Twp, St. Patricks, Broadwell Twp and Atlanta, Atlanta Twp. G. H. Tuttle, Funeral Home Records - Atlanta, Logan Co., IL. -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Flock [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 7:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILSANGAM-L] Meenan-need a death date lookup Marilyn Could you tell what books you have, so I know what not to look in again. Charlotte Marilyn Underwood wrote: >Nothing in the books that I have. >Marilyn - Fla. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Charlotte Flock [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:26 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] Meenan-need a death date lookup > > >Maybe someone could help me, I looking for the death of Ellen Theresa >Meenan maiden name Carley. She was born about 1854 in Ireland. Her >husband is Thomas Joseph Meenan b. 1849 Liverpool, England / Ireland. >There children are >Mary Ann Meenan b. 1878 Cambria Co., PA >Thomas Meenan b. 1879 >John Meenan >Nellie Meenan b. 1884 PA > >Thomas Joseph Meenan and his wife Ellen was found on the 1880 census in >Cambria Co., PA with two children >Mary Ann and Thomas Meenan >Ellen went by the name of Nelly on the 1880 census. >Thomas and Ellen's last child was born in 1884. >In their daughters obit in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, Nellie Meenan >Davis, she died at the age of 55 and had been a resident of Indianapolis >for 40 years, and a native of Springfield, IL. So this is how Sangamon >county comes into this family. Ellen does not show up in the Marion Co., >IN census. Thomas was a Widow. > >If there is anyone who could check for a death date for Ellen Theresa >Meenan "Nelly / Nellie", she had to died between 1884 and 1900. The IRDA >does not have the pre 1916 death dates for Sangamon county. > >Or maybe someone has a city Directory anywhere from 1884 to 1900 that >could look and see if there was Meenan or Menan that was living around >Springfield. This would give me more close of ideal when they came to >Springfield, and when they left. > >Charlotte Flock > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== >To post a message send to: >[email protected] >You must be a subscriber to the list or the digest > > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== >You can search the surname or county mail list msgs here: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >For Sangamon enter the word ilsangam. >Find the names of other maillists to search: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > > > > > ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== To post a message send to: [email protected] You must be a subscriber to the list or the digest

Marilyn Could you tell what books you have, so I know what not to look in again. Charlotte Marilyn Underwood wrote: >Nothing in the books that I have. >Marilyn - Fla. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Charlotte Flock [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:26 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] Meenan-need a death date lookup > > >Maybe someone could help me, I looking for the death of Ellen Theresa >Meenan maiden name Carley. She was born about 1854 in Ireland. Her >husband is Thomas Joseph Meenan b. 1849 Liverpool, England / Ireland. >There children are >Mary Ann Meenan b. 1878 Cambria Co., PA >Thomas Meenan b. 1879 >John Meenan >Nellie Meenan b. 1884 PA > >Thomas Joseph Meenan and his wife Ellen was found on the 1880 census in >Cambria Co., PA with two children >Mary Ann and Thomas Meenan >Ellen went by the name of Nelly on the 1880 census. >Thomas and Ellen's last child was born in 1884. >In their daughters obit in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, Nellie Meenan >Davis, she died at the age of 55 and had been a resident of Indianapolis >for 40 years, and a native of Springfield, IL. So this is how Sangamon >county comes into this family. Ellen does not show up in the Marion Co., >IN census. Thomas was a Widow. > >If there is anyone who could check for a death date for Ellen Theresa >Meenan "Nelly / Nellie", she had to died between 1884 and 1900. The IRDA >does not have the pre 1916 death dates for Sangamon county. > >Or maybe someone has a city Directory anywhere from 1884 to 1900 that >could look and see if there was Meenan or Menan that was living around >Springfield. This would give me more close of ideal when they came to >Springfield, and when they left. > >Charlotte Flock > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== >To post a message send to: >[email protected] >You must be a subscriber to the list or the digest > > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== >You can search the surname or county mail list msgs here: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >For Sangamon enter the word ilsangam. >Find the names of other maillists to search: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > > > > >

Nothing in the books that I have. Marilyn - Fla. -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Flock [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILSANGAM-L] Meenan-need a death date lookup Maybe someone could help me, I looking for the death of Ellen Theresa Meenan maiden name Carley. She was born about 1854 in Ireland. Her husband is Thomas Joseph Meenan b. 1849 Liverpool, England / Ireland. There children are Mary Ann Meenan b. 1878 Cambria Co., PA Thomas Meenan b. 1879 John Meenan Nellie Meenan b. 1884 PA Thomas Joseph Meenan and his wife Ellen was found on the 1880 census in Cambria Co., PA with two children Mary Ann and Thomas Meenan Ellen went by the name of Nelly on the 1880 census. Thomas and Ellen's last child was born in 1884. In their daughters obit in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, Nellie Meenan Davis, she died at the age of 55 and had been a resident of Indianapolis for 40 years, and a native of Springfield, IL. So this is how Sangamon county comes into this family. Ellen does not show up in the Marion Co., IN census. Thomas was a Widow. If there is anyone who could check for a death date for Ellen Theresa Meenan "Nelly / Nellie", she had to died between 1884 and 1900. The IRDA does not have the pre 1916 death dates for Sangamon county. Or maybe someone has a city Directory anywhere from 1884 to 1900 that could look and see if there was Meenan or Menan that was living around Springfield. This would give me more close of ideal when they came to Springfield, and when they left. Charlotte Flock ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== To post a message send to: [email protected] You must be a subscriber to the list or the digest

Thank you so much for this history. I remember as a kid, going to see my grandpa, out of town (we lived in Springfield)and for some reason when I saw Quincy I thought that rang a bell. Now that I see Decatur, he may have been there - I don't remember a hospital of any kind out on So.Grand,E. We lived out there when I was in K-3rd grade. My uncle was at the Decatur hospital tho' - both he and my grandpa worked for Wabash and CI&M. My dad did off and on when he would be out of work - he worked for the print shops. Thanks again. Marilyn - Fla. -----Original Message----- From: RLBradley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILSANGAM-L] Re: William Andrew Porter WABASH HOSPITAL BUILT IN 1903 It stood for nearly 100 years and, like other hospitals in the city, filled a very important need during the first half of the 20th century. Deserted, desolate and left standing alone in its later years, the old Wabash Employees Hospital, at the corner of Grand and Warren, succumbed to demolition in February, 1996, and disappeared without much publicity. It was there as always -- and then it was gone, and it seemed like the city ignored its passing. Maybe it was because the structure had not been a hospital for many years, and new generations forgot about its reason for existence. Also, the dominance of the railroads of a century ago, changed over the generations, as did the need for a hospital employees of a railroad company. Although the 45-bed hospital opened on October 7, 1903 at 360 East Grand Avenue, plans for the hospital were initially discussed in 1882, when a chief surgeon of the Wabash railroad lines expressed his idea of building a hospital in Decatur for employees of the company. Considering that Decatur had just experienced the founding of its first hospital, St. Mary's, only four years previous, and the railroad had a tremendous number of workers in the Decatur area who would utilize the services of a hospital, the idea seemed like a good one. However, the railroad workers were deadset against the plan and even indicated that they would strike if it proceeded any further. When resistance to the idea had cooled a little 2 years later, the president of Wabash ordered it to be put into action. Still, it was almost 20 years until the 45-bed hospital opened on East Grand Avenue and, for the first 62 years of its existence it admitted only Wabash Railr oad employees. Decatur had many trains and railroad employees during that time and, there was a need to add another 40 private rooms to the structure in 1925. Another addition, which included a modern surgical suite, was completed in 1967. When the railroad business declined, because of other ways to transport goods and people, there was a decrease in the number of employees on the railroad, which meant a decrease in the number of patients at the hospital. It was in 1965, the hospital started accepting non-Wabash employees and changed its named from the Wabash Employees Hospital, to the Wabash Memorial Hospital. CLOSES ITS DOORS However, with the dominance of St. Mary's and Decatur-Macon County Hospital, the hospital closed its doors in 1972 simply because it didn't have enough patients to keep operating. It had outlived its reason for existing. The few patients who remained when it was closed, were transferred to St. Mary's Hospital. Many people remember when Dave Condon bought the building back in the 1970s and used it for the Decatur Community Health Improvement Center or the CHIC operation. Eventually, it stood deserted and became an eyesore in the neighborhood. The grass of what had once been a beautiful lawn became a field of tall weeds and trees and brush grew up around it until much of its architecture was hidden from the view of neighborhood residents and the occupants of cars that drove by the front on Grand Avenue. Although the operation of the Wabash Employees Hospital ceased to exist many years ago, the Wabash Memorial Hospital Association continues to serve thousands of employees, members and retirees, with offices located at 1501 North Water Street -- only a few blocks from the old hospital site. ==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== Wonder where they settled in Sangamon? Visit the Early Arrivals location page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/arr-locate.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Porter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2594.1.1 Message Board Post: I also do look-ups so I really apprreciateeee your time and effort. Time to start investigation my new leads. Thanks you so veeeery much

WABASH HOSPITAL BUILT IN 1903 It stood for nearly 100 years and, like other hospitals in the city, filled a very important need during the first half of the 20th century. Deserted, desolate and left standing alone in its later years, the old Wabash Employees Hospital, at the corner of Grand and Warren, succumbed to demolition in February, 1996, and disappeared without much publicity. It was there as always -- and then it was gone, and it seemed like the city ignored its passing. Maybe it was because the structure had not been a hospital for many years, and new generations forgot about its reason for existence. Also, the dominance of the railroads of a century ago, changed over the generations, as did the need for a hospital employees of a railroad company. Although the 45-bed hospital opened on October 7, 1903 at 360 East Grand Avenue, plans for the hospital were initially discussed in 1882, when a chief surgeon of the Wabash railroad lines expressed his idea of building a hospital in Decatur for employees of the company. Considering that Decatur had just experienced the founding of its first hospital, St. Mary's, only four years previous, and the railroad had a tremendous number of workers in the Decatur area who would utilize the services of a hospital, the idea seemed like a good one. However, the railroad workers were deadset against the plan and even indicated that they would strike if it proceeded any further. When resistance to the idea had cooled a little 2 years later, the president of Wabash ordered it to be put into action. Still, it was almost 20 years until the 45-bed hospital opened on East Grand Avenue and, for the first 62 years of its existence it admitted only Wabash Railr oad employees. Decatur had many trains and railroad employees during that time and, there was a need to add another 40 private rooms to the structure in 1925. Another addition, which included a modern surgical suite, was completed in 1967. When the railroad business declined, because of other ways to transport goods and people, there was a decrease in the number of employees on the railroad, which meant a decrease in the number of patients at the hospital. It was in 1965, the hospital started accepting non-Wabash employees and changed its named from the Wabash Employees Hospital, to the Wabash Memorial Hospital. CLOSES ITS DOORS However, with the dominance of St. Mary's and Decatur-Macon County Hospital, the hospital closed its doors in 1972 simply because it didn't have enough patients to keep operating. It had outlived its reason for existing. The few patients who remained when it was closed, were transferred to St. Mary's Hospital. Many people remember when Dave Condon bought the building back in the 1970s and used it for the Decatur Community Health Improvement Center or the CHIC operation. Eventually, it stood deserted and became an eyesore in the neighborhood. The grass of what had once been a beautiful lawn became a field of tall weeds and trees and brush grew up around it until much of its architecture was hidden from the view of neighborhood residents and the occupants of cars that drove by the front on Grand Avenue. Although the operation of the Wabash Employees Hospital ceased to exist many years ago, the Wabash Memorial Hospital Association continues to serve thousands of employees, members and retirees, with offices located at 1501 North Water Street -- only a few blocks from the old hospital site.

Maybe someone could help me, I looking for the death of Ellen Theresa Meenan maiden name Carley. She was born about 1854 in Ireland. Her husband is Thomas Joseph Meenan b. 1849 Liverpool, England / Ireland. There children are Mary Ann Meenan b. 1878 Cambria Co., PA Thomas Meenan b. 1879 John Meenan Nellie Meenan b. 1884 PA Thomas Joseph Meenan and his wife Ellen was found on the 1880 census in Cambria Co., PA with two children Mary Ann and Thomas Meenan Ellen went by the name of Nelly on the 1880 census. Thomas and Ellen's last child was born in 1884. In their daughters obit in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, Nellie Meenan Davis, she died at the age of 55 and had been a resident of Indianapolis for 40 years, and a native of Springfield, IL. So this is how Sangamon county comes into this family. Ellen does not show up in the Marion Co., IN census. Thomas was a Widow. If there is anyone who could check for a death date for Ellen Theresa Meenan "Nelly / Nellie", she had to died between 1884 and 1900. The IRDA does not have the pre 1916 death dates for Sangamon county. Or maybe someone has a city Directory anywhere from 1884 to 1900 that could look and see if there was Meenan or Menan that was living around Springfield. This would give me more close of ideal when they came to Springfield, and when they left. Charlotte Flock

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/2592.1 Message Board Post: Hope this helps you, not sure if they are your family or not, but you can send for the documents through IRAD: Physicians certif. of death: Myers, Eleanor D cert.#3620 3-23-1889 So.Grand & 1st " , Francis A. " #4352 7-10-1890 1328 E Adams " , Frank " #4344 7-6-1890 Atchison, KS " , Henry " #4090 2-4-1890 723 N 2nd " , Infant " #3778 6-7-1889 1317 E Adams " , John " #1282 12-11-1881 near Srpingfield " , Lydia H " #3634 3-29-1889 St.Johns Hospital " , MOLLIE " #3147 6-6-1888 922 E Carpenter St " , Noah O " #4091 2-5-1890 1423 S 14 " , Sarah C " #2123 10-2-1886 1008 E Monroe Births: 1860-1878 Myers, William Bartle M 6-9-1878 Riverton father, James A, Sangamon Co.,IL; mother, Lydie Howett, OH

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carr/Porter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2593.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much. I will check these out. If it would not bbe too much trouble , would you look up PORTER. Thanks again

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2594.1 Message Board Post: Here again, don't know if these will help, but COULD be part of the family?? Estate record index: Porter, David D. #4393 " , John H # 2882 " , Josiah # 3624 " , Martha W # 3625 " , William # 925 Index to record of letters/wills Porter, William estate vol. I pg 334-335 Physicians certif. of death: Porter, Jennie B. cert.# 191 8-19-1878 New Berlin " , John H " #1748 10-14-1879 S of Jefferson St 2 blks w of W.Grand Ave Porter, John, Jr. Cert.#4238 3-24-180- Captial Twp " , Josiah " #2339 1-10-1887 Chatham " , Martha " #2340 1=23-1887 Chatham " , Martha Agnes " #2209 11-9-1886 Chatham " , Mary A # 12-30-1888 Quincy, Il. " , W. C. (male) #7-21-1887 Wabash Hospital (I think this was a hospital that the railroad men went to. Seems like my grandpa was in there for something and believe it was over around Quincy)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2593.1 Message Board Post: MERRY XMAS! Hope this turns out to be a nice Xmas present! I have these listings in the Sangamon Co. books I have, hopefully they are part of your family. You can write to IRAD for copies of the documents, which some hold more information: Physicians certif. of death: Carr, Carrie cert.#2700 8-30-1887 Monroe & 15th " , Florence " # 2825 12-13-1887 325 N G Ave " , Ida Belle " #2248 12-4-1886 18th & Cass St " , Lizzie " #1198 11-9-1881 Woodside twp " , Mary " #4099 2-11-1890 Clay bet 17 & 18 Index to record of letters/wills: Carr, Michael vol. V pgs 576-577 Estate record index Carr, Mary #5271 " , Michael #2350 " , William #5244 Carrico, James #178 ??? Obits: Carr, Grandville 3-27-1896 2 " , James Journal May 2, 1896 Buried in Calvary Cem. Carr, Mary 2-11-1890 19 " , Thomas Leroy 7-22-1896 11 m. " , William Journal May 3, 1896 of St. Louis, MO.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/1958.1.1 Message Board Post: No I don't have either name on my list, however, I do believe that the Ish's in Ohio were related, but just how I don't know. My Ish family came from Switzerland/German in 1830.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xg.2ADI/1958.1 Message Board Post: My Grandparents Fred & Elsie ISH. Fred was from Ohio - born 1891 and his wife Elsie 1891 Indiana. Married in US and came to Canada in 1918 to Drumheller, Alberta. Do you have this man on your family geneology list?

I have a friend thats maiden name was Carr and is from Springfield. I have forwarded your inquiry to her and will let you know what I hear back. [email protected] wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Carr >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2593 > >Message Board Post: > >Looking for information on William Carr born abt 1830 in Sangamon County and his brother, James Carr b. 5-4-1826. Looking for parents or other siblings. > > >==== ILSANGAM Mailing List ==== >Wonder where they settled in Sangamon? Visit the Early Arrivals location page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/arr-locate.htm > > > > -- Frank's Home Page: http://tinyurl.com/6qmu4 Check out Smart Wallpaper Lite while your there. Give the 30 day trial program a try for free. All outgoing messages scanned with Norton AV.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Porter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2594 Message Board Post: Looking for information on William Andrew Porter & his parents, Thomas Alexandr Porter & Ervincy Stewart. William was born 1-28-1866 in Sangamon County.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carr Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/2593 Message Board Post: Looking for information on William Carr born abt 1830 in Sangamon County and his brother, James Carr b. 5-4-1826. Looking for parents or other siblings.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: defrates Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/4.77.3.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Dawn, I am sending you my new email address [email protected] What I need is a photo of my grandmother Alice Julia Ages Annie Bentley who had children by Stanley defrates. I do however question their marriage because I have searched and found nothing, so I will have to wait until I get proof. Regards Carol

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/1819.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Larry, I have been researching the Baugh family of Dawson for about 3 1/2 years. My great grandfather,.William Lincoln Baugh and Lora Lanham's father, Jeratus Baugh were brothers. I have been trying to find any information and or photos of William and Jeratus' father, William Baugh born about 1827 in Kentucky. I have talked recently with some of your family members and as far as they knew, no one had any information on William or his wife Mary Ann Cline. Do you have any info? I know that Mary Ann is buried in Mechanicsburg, having died of typhoid fever in 1891. According to a letter I have, William died in 1869 in Missouri, but I don't know what he died of, where he died. or even if that is factual. Any information you have on the Baugh family would be greatly appreciated. I have been trying to track down descendants of Tillie (Itillia) Baugh and her husband David Smith. Tillie died in 1896 and left behind four children. They lived until at least 1941 (according to their father's obituary). Do you know anything about Clarence or Grover Smith, Anna Applegate or Daisy ?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xg.2ADI/1819.1.1 Message Board Post: bert owen lanham and lora lanham were my great grandparents, my grandfather was francis, i am named after his brother dean. the lanham family is still active in westly methodist church sprinfield illinois we have been in sangamon county before illinois was a state, came from ohio, and prince georeges md.