Hi Leanna, You aren't alone. I drove up from Memphis to look at Harrisburg newspapers at the Harrisburg Public library. Evidently they do not have a policy on how long someone may use the microfilm reader/copier. We waited for over 2 hours only to find out that the man using the machine would be occupying it for at least 45 more min. We gave up and left. Most libraries have policies that prevent one person from monopolizing resources such as computers and microfilm readers/copiers. Lynda holdgraf <[email protected]> wrote: Just a note to vent some frustration. I started researching family history only about a year ago...so I'm a rookie with soooo much to learn. I live in Kansas City and am able to visit my birthplace...Harrisburg....once a year. Thank goodness for the wonderful resources we have available to us on the internet now days! Anyway....just got back from my week end in Harrisburg. Amist three parties and a grade school reunion I was able to visit the library and court house and driv e to Shawnee town. I was specifically trying to find any information on the birth of my great great grandfather, Albert Lancaster. November 27, 1872 or 1873 in Gallatin County. I had called Gallatin County court house from Kansas City and was told births b/4 1878 weren't recorded. When I got to Harrisburg I found they have Gallatin County newspapers but a 20 year span is missing which includes 1873. Drove to Shawnee town and same deal....20 yr span missing?? I had hoped to possible find some kind of birth announcement in the paper. Back in Kansas City now...I've been calling the Gallatin Democrat all morning but no one answers. Also visited the court house in Harrisburg to see if any wills were listed for my people...Cresswell, Lancaster, Smythe or Smith, but didn't find a single one. There have been times when I have absolutely hit the jackpot of information, but this week end wasn't one of those times. Can anyone tell me if there was a working newspaper in Gallatin County in 1872 or 3? Does anyone have any suggestions how I might find information on birth of Albert Lancaster...Nov 27, 1872 or 1873? I sure could use some advice. Thank you, Leanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trev" To: Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Southern IL 1810 Census > Has anyone viewed the 1810 census?? This included Saline Co, right (I know > it did in 1818)? > > TERRITORIAL CENSUSES. > > 1810; 1818. 2 microfilm rolls and 1 vol. Index. > > The surviving portion of the 1810 territorial census is for Randolph County > alone which at the time of the enumeration composed the southern quarter of > what now is the state of Illinois. Entries include name of town, village, or > other geographical subdivision; name of head of household; numbers of free > white males aged 0-9, 10-15, 16-25, 26-44, and 45 and upwards; numbers of > free white females by the same age divisions; number of other free persons, > except Indians, not taxed; and the number of slaves. Entries were > recapitulated and endorsed by the census taker. > > The 1818 population census of the Illinois Territory was compiled in each > county by census commissioners appointed by the territorial Governor to > establish the minimum population requirement for achieving statehood. Each > county return includes name of county and for each household name of head of > household, numbers of free white males twenty-one years of age or older, > other white inhabitants, free Negroes and mulattoes, and servants and > slaves. Also included are total number of inhabitants of each county, > signature of census commissioner certifying census, and date certified. > Returns are included for the following counties: > > Bond > Crawford > Franklin > Gallatin > Jackson > Johnson > Madison > Monroe > Pope > Randolph > St. Clair > Union > Washington > White > > Censuses were reprinted by Margaret Cross Norton, ed., Illinois Census > Returns: 1810, 1818, in Theodore Calvin Pease, ed., Collections of the > Illinois State Historical Library, XXIV, (Springfield, 1935). > --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

----- Original Message ----- From: "LR Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Southern IL 1810 Census > Hi Leanna, > > You aren't alone. I drove up from Memphis to look at Harrisburg newspapers at the Harrisburg Public library. Evidently they do not have a policy on how long someone may use the microfilm reader/copier. We waited for over 2 hours only to find out that the man using the machine would be occupying it for at least 45 more min. We gave up and left. Most libraries have policies that prevent one person from monopolizing resources such as computers and microfilm readers/copiers. > > Lynda > > holdgraf <[email protected]> wrote: > Just a note to vent some frustration. I started researching family history > only about a year ago...so I'm a rookie with soooo much to learn. I live in > Kansas City and am able to visit my birthplace...Harrisburg....once a year. > Thank goodness for the wonderful resources we have available to us on the > internet now days! Anyway....just got back from my week end in Harrisburg. > Amist three parties and a grade school reunion I was able to visit the > library and court house and driv e to Shawnee town. I was specifically > trying to find any information on the birth of my great great grandfather, > Albert Lancaster. November 27, 1872 or 1873 in Gallatin County. I had > called Gallatin County court house from Kansas City and was told births b/4 > 1878 weren't recorded. When I got to Harrisburg I found they have Gallatin > County newspapers but a 20 year span is missing which includes 1873. Drove > to Shawnee town and same deal....20 yr span missing?? I had hoped to > possible find some kind of birth announcement in the paper. Back in Kansas > City now...I've been calling the Gallatin Democrat all morning but no one > answers. Also visited the court house in Harrisburg to see if any wills were > listed for my people...Cresswell, Lancaster, Smythe or Smith, but didn't > find a single one. There have been times when I have absolutely hit the > jackpot of information, but this week end wasn't one of those times. > > Can anyone tell me if there was a working newspaper in Gallatin County in > 1872 or 3? Does anyone have any suggestions how I might find information on > birth of Albert Lancaster...Nov 27, 1872 or 1873? I sure could use some > advice. > > Thank you, Leanna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trev" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 1:53 PM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Southern IL 1810 Census > > > > Has anyone viewed the 1810 census?? This included Saline Co, right (I know > > it did in 1818)? > > > > TERRITORIAL CENSUSES. > > > > 1810; 1818. 2 microfilm rolls and 1 vol. Index. > > > > The surviving portion of the 1810 territorial census is for Randolph > County > > alone which at the time of the enumeration composed the southern quarter > of > > what now is the state of Illinois. Entries include name of town, village, > or > > other geographical subdivision; name of head of household; numbers of free > > white males aged 0-9, 10-15, 16-25, 26-44, and 45 and upwards; numbers of > > free white females by the same age divisions; number of other free > persons, > > except Indians, not taxed; and the number of slaves. Entries were > > recapitulated and endorsed by the census taker. > > > > The 1818 population census of the Illinois Territory was compiled in each > > county by census commissioners appointed by the territorial Governor to > > establish the minimum population requirement for achieving statehood. Each > > county return includes name of county and for each household name of head > of > > household, numbers of free white males twenty-one years of age or older, > > other white inhabitants, free Negroes and mulattoes, and servants and > > slaves. Also included are total number of inhabitants of each county, > > signature of census commissioner certifying census, and date certified. > > Returns are included for the following counties: > > > > Bond > > Crawford > > Franklin > > Gallatin > > Jackson > > Johnson > > Madison > > Monroe > > Pope > > Randolph > > St. Clair > > Union > > Washington > > White > > > > Censuses were reprinted by Margaret Cross Norton, ed., Illinois Census > > Returns: 1810, 1818, in Theodore Calvin Pease, ed., Collections of the > > Illinois State Historical Library, XXIV, (Springfield, 1935). > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > Leanna, do you have any first names to go with the last name of Smith? I have some Smith connected into my lines. Coreasia lind. [email protected]

Oh my...that would have driven me nuts! Wonder if the guy was from out of town? If not I would have been double frustrated. Seems like the Daily Register has a reader but not ability to print. I think I'm going to look for a hand scanner to take with me to the DR next visit. When I was ther( library ) they were re arranging the microfilm reader....put it in the genealogy room. I heard them mention a grant they were hoping to receive. I'd be happy to contribute to a fund to help them out. Leanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "LR Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Southern IL 1810 Census > Hi Leanna, > > You aren't alone. I drove up from Memphis to look at Harrisburg newspapers at the Harrisburg Public library. Evidently they do not have a policy on how long someone may use the microfilm reader/copier. We waited for over 2 hours only to find out that the man using the machine would be occupying it for at least 45 more min. We gave up and left. Most libraries have policies that prevent one person from monopolizing resources such as computers and microfilm readers/copiers. > > Lynda > > holdgraf <[email protected]> wrote: > Just a note to vent some frustration. I started researching family history > only about a year ago...so I'm a rookie with soooo much to learn. I live in > Kansas City and am able to visit my birthplace...Harrisburg....once a year. > Thank goodness for the wonderful resources we have available to us on the > internet now days! Anyway....just got back from my week end in Harrisburg. > Amist three parties and a grade school reunion I was able to visit the > library and court house and driv e to Shawnee town. I was specifically > trying to find any information on the birth of my great great grandfather, > Albert Lancaster. November 27, 1872 or 1873 in Gallatin County. I had > called Gallatin County court house from Kansas City and was told births b/4 > 1878 weren't recorded. When I got to Harrisburg I found they have Gallatin > County newspapers but a 20 year span is missing which includes 1873. Drove > to Shawnee town and same deal....20 yr span missing?? I had hoped to > possible find some kind of birth announcement in the paper. Back in Kansas > City now...I've been calling the Gallatin Democrat all morning but no one > answers. Also visited the court house in Harrisburg to see if any wills were > listed for my people...Cresswell, Lancaster, Smythe or Smith, but didn't > find a single one. There have been times when I have absolutely hit the > jackpot of information, but this week end wasn't one of those times. > > Can anyone tell me if there was a working newspaper in Gallatin County in > 1872 or 3? Does anyone have any suggestions how I might find information on > birth of Albert Lancaster...Nov 27, 1872 or 1873? I sure could use some > advice. > > Thank you, Leanna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trev" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 1:53 PM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Southern IL 1810 Census > > > > Has anyone viewed the 1810 census?? This included Saline Co, right (I know > > it did in 1818)? > > > > TERRITORIAL CENSUSES. > > > > 1810; 1818. 2 microfilm rolls and 1 vol. Index. > > > > The surviving portion of the 1810 territorial census is for Randolph > County > > alone which at the time of the enumeration composed the southern quarter > of > > what now is the state of Illinois. Entries include name of town, village, > or > > other geographical subdivision; name of head of household; numbers of free > > white males aged 0-9, 10-15, 16-25, 26-44, and 45 and upwards; numbers of > > free white females by the same age divisions; number of other free > persons, > > except Indians, not taxed; and the number of slaves. Entries were > > recapitulated and endorsed by the census taker. > > > > The 1818 population census of the Illinois Territory was compiled in each > > county by census commissioners appointed by the territorial Governor to > > establish the minimum population requirement for achieving statehood. Each > > county return includes name of county and for each household name of head > of > > household, numbers of free white males twenty-one years of age or older, > > other white inhabitants, free Negroes and mulattoes, and servants and > > slaves. Also included are total number of inhabitants of each county, > > signature of census commissioner certifying census, and date certified. > > Returns are included for the following counties: > > > > Bond > > Crawford > > Franklin > > Gallatin > > Jackson > > Johnson > > Madison > > Monroe > > Pope > > Randolph > > St. Clair > > Union > > Washington > > White > > > > Censuses were reprinted by Margaret Cross Norton, ed., Illinois Census > > Returns: 1810, 1818, in Theodore Calvin Pease, ed., Collections of the > > Illinois State Historical Library, XXIV, (Springfield, 1935). > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! >

When I was in Harrisburg this week end I was able to spend some at Gaskins funeral home looking through their pictures. They told me a book will be available soon for the sesquecenial. When anyone knows how to order that I sure would love to get one. Leanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "LR Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Southern IL 1810 Census > Hi Leanna, > > You aren't alone. I drove up from Memphis to look at Harrisburg newspapers at the Harrisburg Public library. Evidently they do not have a policy on how long someone may use the microfilm reader/copier. We waited for over 2 hours only to find out that the man using the machine would be occupying it for at least 45 more min. We gave up and left. Most libraries have policies that prevent one person from monopolizing resources such as computers and microfilm readers/copiers. > > Lynda > > holdgraf <[email protected]> wrote: > Just a note to vent some frustration. I started researching family history > only about a year ago...so I'm a rookie with soooo much to learn. I live in > Kansas City and am able to visit my birthplace...Harrisburg....once a year. > Thank goodness for the wonderful resources we have available to us on the > internet now days! Anyway....just got back from my week end in Harrisburg. > Amist three parties and a grade school reunion I was able to visit the > library and court house and driv e to Shawnee town. I was specifically > trying to find any information on the birth of my great great grandfather, > Albert Lancaster. November 27, 1872 or 1873 in Gallatin County. I had > called Gallatin County court house from Kansas City and was told births b/4 > 1878 weren't recorded. When I got to Harrisburg I found they have Gallatin > County newspapers but a 20 year span is missing which includes 1873. Drove > to Shawnee town and same deal....20 yr span missing?? I had hoped to > possible find some kind of birth announcement in the paper. Back in Kansas > City now...I've been calling the Gallatin Democrat all morning but no one > answers. Also visited the court house in Harrisburg to see if any wills were > listed for my people...Cresswell, Lancaster, Smythe or Smith, but didn't > find a single one. There have been times when I have absolutely hit the > jackpot of information, but this week end wasn't one of those times. > > Can anyone tell me if there was a working newspaper in Gallatin County in > 1872 or 3? Does anyone have any suggestions how I might find information on > birth of Albert Lancaster...Nov 27, 1872 or 1873? I sure could use some > advice. > > Thank you, Leanna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trev" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 1:53 PM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Southern IL 1810 Census > > > > Has anyone viewed the 1810 census?? This included Saline Co, right (I know > > it did in 1818)? > > > > TERRITORIAL CENSUSES. > > > > 1810; 1818. 2 microfilm rolls and 1 vol. Index. > > > > The surviving portion of the 1810 territorial census is for Randolph > County > > alone which at the time of the enumeration composed the southern quarter > of > > what now is the state of Illinois. Entries include name of town, village, > or > > other geographical subdivision; name of head of household; numbers of free > > white males aged 0-9, 10-15, 16-25, 26-44, and 45 and upwards; numbers of > > free white females by the same age divisions; number of other free > persons, > > except Indians, not taxed; and the number of slaves. Entries were > > recapitulated and endorsed by the census taker. > > > > The 1818 population census of the Illinois Territory was compiled in each > > county by census commissioners appointed by the territorial Governor to > > establish the minimum population requirement for achieving statehood. Each > > county return includes name of county and for each household name of head > of > > household, numbers of free white males twenty-one years of age or older, > > other white inhabitants, free Negroes and mulattoes, and servants and > > slaves. Also included are total number of inhabitants of each county, > > signature of census commissioner certifying census, and date certified. > > Returns are included for the following counties: > > > > Bond > > Crawford > > Franklin > > Gallatin > > Jackson > > Johnson > > Madison > > Monroe > > Pope > > Randolph > > St. Clair > > Union > > Washington > > White > > > > Censuses were reprinted by Margaret Cross Norton, ed., Illinois Census > > Returns: 1810, 1818, in Theodore Calvin Pease, ed., Collections of the > > Illinois State Historical Library, XXIV, (Springfield, 1935). > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! >