Perhaps some worthless info on the Gallatin-Saline Cos. Karnes: John L. Karnes, in the late 1800s was a prosperous farmer on the Elba road just East of the the Saline Co. line. According to my notes, an older dau marred a Melvin Overton and lived near Oak Grove Church, A younger son, John Marshal Karrnes was an Attorney in the East St. Louis area. . Will Karnes was a Saline Co.rural school teacher in 1928 and is buried w his wife in Wesley Chapel Cemetery just west of the Gall,-Salin Cos. EDPline.Original Message ----- From: <ilsaline-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ilsaline@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 2:09 AM Subject: ILSALINE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 64 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Saline Co. Visit (fred smith) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:30:16 -0700 (PDT) > From: fred smith <fredjsmith1944@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE] Saline Co. Visit > To: ilsaline@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <251406.23667.qm@web53212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Thank you for taking the time from your busy schedule > to share these thoughts. As I track back some of the > female tracks I find the names Karnes, Karns, Carns > and Tate. I found some interesting information on > the web about the the grandparents of Celia Atway > Karnes, wife of Nathan Reeder, and family in Saline > Co., Illinios, it is as follows; > 2. Church Records: Bethel Creek Primitive Baptist > Church, located > between Raleigh and Galatia [Saline co.] was organized > in 1820. > The cemetery has many Karnes family members buried > there. > Deeds located a Karnes family farm next to the Bethel > Creek > church. The following minutes are courtest of Mary > Anderson > of Ridgeway, Ill.: > 1821 - June meeting - received by letter Brother Jacob > Karnes and > Anna Karnes. > 1821 - Aug. meeting - Jacob Karnes asked for letters > of dismission > for himself and wife. Granted. > 1822 - Feb meeting - Brother Jacob Karnes and wife > petitioned for > letter of dismission which was granted. > 1824 - Feb. meeting - Br. Jacob Karnes applied for > letter of dismission > for himself and wife, given. > 1826 - Aug. meeting - Brothers Karnes applied for self > and sister Ann, > letters of dismission. Ordered clerk to write letter. > 1827 - Aug. term - James Karnes received by > experience. > 1828 - May - James Karnes dismissed. > 1831 - Aug. 20 - Received by letter Brother Jacob > Karnes and his wife > Anna by letter from Tennessee, Dickson County [This > explains the > absence of Jacob on 1830 census of Gallation Co.] > 1847 - Oct. Term - Sister Anna Karnes requested a > letter of > dismission - request granted. > 3. Census Records: Index [1810-1840] > 1810 Gallation co. census - no Karnes/Carns noted > 1820 Gallation co. census - John Karnes; Jacob Carnes > 1830 Gallation co. census - John Carns > 1840 Gallation co. census - Amos Carnes; George > Karnes; John Karnes; > Isaac Karnes; John Carnes" > Can you help me understand what the "letter of > dismissions" would imply? What was likely to be going > on? > > The Karnes family came from Hawkins County, TN. and > because of the Stoney Creek Primitive Baptist Church > in Hawkins Co, they may have been assoicated with that > church. > As you can guess, I will spend my fall trip looking > for more information on the parents of Nathan Reeder's > wife, Celia Atway Karnes. > All is well in the flat lands, maybe we're just in the > palm of his hand. > God Bless you and your > fred j smith > --- Robert L Webb <bwebb9@juno.com> wrote: > >> Hi, Fred, >> I noticed your message this morning, and want >> to send a brief reply. >> We've communicated before, but if we can be of any >> help just let me know. >> We have about 50 entries for the Reeders, in our >> database of Illinois >> Primitive Baptists, and have a few entries for the >> surnames of Karnes and >> Tates. Not all, I'm sure, since we have not obtained >> all the records of >> all the churches in those counties, but at least we >> have part of the >> names. I see we also have obituaries of a few of >> them in our obituaries >> index. >> Best wishes in your search. >> Elder Robert Webb >> Primitive Baptist Library >> Carthage, IL >> >> > http://www.carthage.lib.il.us/community/churches/primbap/pbl.html >> >> >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:55:07 -0700 (PDT) fred smith >> <fredjsmith1944@yahoo.com> writes: >> > Hi, my name is Fred Smith. I just joined your >> group >> > as I ready myself for a genealogy visit to your >> > county. I will be looking for information on my >> Tate, >> > Reeder and Karnes families. It is likely that >> they >> > were Primitive Baptist Church members. I know >> that >> > the Reeder family were Primitive Baptist while in >> > Illinois. My main hope is to find the parents of >> > Elizabeth Tate who married John Karnes (Carns, >> Karns) >> > abt 1827. There first know child was Mary Ann >> born >> > 2/19/1828 in Gallaatin Co. Illinois. I would >> guess >> > that Elizabeth was born sometime after 1800. >> > I belive my line through Saline County >> includes:Jacob >> > Karnes and his wife Anna, Their son John Karnes b >> abt >> > 1800 married Elizabeth Tate. They had 4 children; >> >> > Mary Ann b 1828, Artemissa b 1832, Joseph G. b >> 1835 >> > and my great-great grandmother Celia Atway Karnes. >> >> > Celia married Nathan Reeder on August 22, 1865 in >> > Saline Co. >> > Nathan's father Joshua Reeder, along with many of >> his >> > family, including his sons Nathan and Thomas moved >> to >> > Kansas in the early 1870's. >> > I expect to visit the Tate Chapel Cemetery, and >> some >> > local libraries. Any information the group has on >> > these families would be helpful. >> > >> > fred smith >> > wichita, ks >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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