My maternal ancestors are from the same Saline County area as the Karnes families. As someone has written, there are Karnes headstones in the Webber Campground and Old Bethel cemeteries. Some 30 years ago or more, my aunt would report news about some Karnes to my mother, but they were not relatives. I will insert an article which appeared in the Harrisburg Daily Register: ****** Charles K. Burnett started two newspapers in Raleigh, the Raleigh Flag and the Raleigh Egyptian. He was about 21 years old when he started the Flag. He was born in 1835 in what would become Saline County and married Julia A. Karnes, likely a member of the Karnes Family which settled near Raleigh in territorial days. Daily Register On line Archives First county newspaper unfurls as Raleigh Flag By JON MUSGRAVE Staff Writer HARRISBURG, Ill. (Sept. 22, 1997) ******* The Harrisburg Public Library has a good genealogical section. The Saline County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 4, Harrisburg, IL 62946-0004, has a great deal of material but they are open on a limited basis and as far as I know do not have a phone number. Both places are very helpful. There are cemetery books, census records, etc. The county clerk's office has birth, marriage, death, probate, and land records and they are helpful, too. I have a few pages of the 1850 Federal Census of Saline County, Illinois as transcribed and indexed by the Tri-City Genealogical Society, Richland, Kennewick, Pasco, Washington. On page 72: 61 KARNES George 43 M Farmer 200 Tenn Mary A 33 F Ill Francis M 16 M Laborer " Julia A 13 F " William 12 M " Americus 10 M " Andrew 8 M " Nancy J 6 F " Daniel 4 M " George 2 M " Thomas 3/12 M " 62 KARNES John 78 M Farmer 300 Va Martha 56 F Tenn Jacob 18 M Laborer Ill Zechariah 15 M " My ggrandfather, John Barger and family, was listed at 63 and 64, so they were neighbors. Good Luck, Joan