The military records for the Civil War are not State records, they are Federal records, so you can order from the Federal. The people served in the military for the Federal. It is possible that you might find some of the record in the state Archives. In order to get original Federal records, you must request from NARA listed below. They are the only ones that have complete records. You must also know the company in which he served and on which side, the Union or Confederate. I have found complete familys named in the pension records along with several marriages of both husband and wife and marriage dates and places. The childrens birthdays were also listed. This is the best possible. There are times that you might not find much. It is a gamble. Hal Ledbetter Livingston TX -----Original Message----- From: James Young [mailto:jtjjy@surfree.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 6:52 PM To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSALINE-L] To Hal: Widow's pension in Civil War I want to thank everybody for helping me out here. As you can see, I am new at this and I have never order any civil war records. But I am confuse here. How come you have to order the form in Washington, DC in Archives and why not in Illinois Archives?? Can you still get the same thing in Illinois Archives? Will they have that? Especially if my gggreatgrandfather Douglas Carter was from Illinois and it was in Illinois when he sign up. Look like to me the civil war records and pension will be at Illinois Archives. Let me know your thoughts on this, okay. Thank you for alway been so helpful here. This is the best site to be on here in Saline's Lists. So much wisdom to share with other. Teresa from Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal Ledbetter <ledbeter@livingston.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [ILSALINE-L] Widow's pension in Civil War > these forms can be ordered on line from > http://www.nara.gov/research/ordering/ordrfrms.html. > > Hal Ledbetter > Livingston TX > > -----Original Message----- > From: James R. Griffin Sr. [mailto:jrgsr@shawneelink.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:33 AM > To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Widow's pension in Civil War > > > > You can get a form from the Old Military and Civil Records(NWCTB-Pension) > Textual Archives Services Division, National Archives and Records > Administration, 700 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20408-0001. Its > Form 85 that you need. Fill this out and send in. When they find the > information they will let you know and > you can send payment then or do it with a credit card. I received the > pension papers of my g grandfather and > g uncle. There was a lot of information in there. Include as much > information that you can on the form > and that might make a big difference. Jim > > > > At 08:49 AM 1/7/01 -0600, you wrote: > >Where can I check out for widow's pension in Civil War? Is there any url > web site where I can check this out? I have found Douglas Carter in > Illinois Civil War, Company E, the 29th Infantry Illinois Volunteers and he > died 1873 in Raleigh, IL. It was 4 years later before his wife had married > again. So that make me wonder how she survived during the 4 years period > and she must have been drawing widow's pension. How can I find information > on that and to get copy of her pension? Any help is much appreciated. > Teresa from Oklahoma > > > > > > >