Jan, You said you were researching the Randolph line, any chance our randolphs are connected? 1 Samuel Peyton Randolph ........ 2 John William Randolph 1796 - .............. +Mary Ann Reavis ................... 3 Nathaniel Easterly Randolph 1829 - 1909 ......................... +Mary Shrum 1828 - 1863 ............................. 4 William Johnson Randolph 1852 - 1912 ........................................ 5 Alice Ida Randolph 1872 - 1929 .............................................. +Joshua Hardin Rickman 1861 - .................................................. 6 Portia Isabel Rickman ........................................................ +John Grant ........................................ 5 Julius Martin Randolph 1875 - 1946 ........................................ 5 Florence Gertrude Randolph 1898 - 1980 ........................................ 5 Fred Randolph 1879 - 1895 ........................................ 5 Alphias Randolph 1879 - ........................................ 5 Benno Randolph ........................................ 5 Tennessee Randolph ........................................ 5 Mona Marie Randolph 1893 - 1973 ........................................ 5 Bruno Ernest Randolph 1885 - 1965 ........................................ 5 Claudius Leo Randolph 1887 - 1960 ........................................ 5 Rayond Rudolph Randolph 1890 - 1944 ........................................ 5 Nathanial Easterly Randolph 1881 - 1954 ........................................ 5 Mabel Randolph 1883 - ........................................ 5 Nathaniel Samuel Randolph ........................................ 5 Child Randolph ................................... +Nancy Narsissa Gullett 1854 - 1939 ........................................ 5 Portia Azalea Randolph 1877 - 1951 .............................................. +Phillip Sheridan Parish 1868 - 1930 .................................................. 6 Anna Marie Parish ........................................................ +? Coleman .................................................. 6 Mildred Carrie Parish .................................................. 6 Gertrude Parish .................................................. 6 Alice Martha Parish 1897 - 1981 ........................................................ +Lee Roy Tanner 1894 - 1981 ........ 2 William Thomas Randolph 1796 - 1850 http://www.parish-tanner.com/Parish/RandolphFamily.html My grand mother was Alice Martha Parish, Her mother was Portia Azalea Randolph married to Philip Sheridan Parish. Portia had a sister named Alice Ida Randolph who married a Rickman. It is said that Portia named Grandma Alice after her sister, and her sister name a daughter Alice after her sister. My sister is Alice and My daughter is Alice. Reguards, Parish Jan Patton-Harlow <jpatton@ij.net> wrote: I think I remember you, I'm not sure. My name was Janice Norman. I've been researching my Norman, Butler, Bush and Randolph ancestors from there for a while. It seems that this list isn't very active any more. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "LARRY HIBBS" To: Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit >I remember the centennial also. Yes went to HHS left in 1958 didn't >graduate Ms Shestak flunked me in history. My fault not hers. Graduated >later on and went to college in the Army. > Larry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jan Patton-Harlow > To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:05 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > > I do too Larry. I was 7 years old when my mother took me. It made such > an > impression on me, one of my early memories which has remained. > Hopefullly > someone will tell us. > > Also, another good memory around the same time is the 1948 centennial. I > wish I knew what date that was also. My mother and father and two more > couples rode around in a 3 seat buggy in vintage clothes. The men had > all > grown beards. What fun! > > Jan > > PS Larry, did you go to Hbg. High? I graduated in 1958. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LARRY HIBBS" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:50 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > > > Hi Jan, I was there and remember it well. It is one of my childhood > > memories. As to the date no luck. I remember him zipping through > > Harrisburg in a car don't remember anything about a train. > > > > Larry > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jan Patton-Harlow> > > To: > ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:08 AM > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > > > > > Hey all you Harrisburg historians, can anyone tell me on what date in > > 1948 > > Harry's cavalcade traveled through Harrisburg? Had he come in on a > > train, > > and from where? > > > > Any help appreciated. > > > > Jan > > > > > >

Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cematapey@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman in Saline Co. >I re-read the article and both Mrs. Truman and daughter, Margaret, were >with > the president on this trip through Harrisburg and in Eldorado. > > Mary Ann > <cematapey@aol.com> >

I re-read the article and both Mrs. Truman and daughter, Margaret, were with the president on this trip through Harrisburg and in Eldorado. Mary Ann <cematapey@aol.com>

I think I remember you, I'm not sure. My name was Janice Norman. I've been researching my Norman, Butler, Bush and Randolph ancestors from there for a while. It seems that this list isn't very active any more. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "LARRY HIBBS" <larry0774@msn.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit >I remember the centennial also. Yes went to HHS left in 1958 didn't >graduate Ms Shestak flunked me in history. My fault not hers. Graduated >later on and went to college in the Army. > Larry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jan Patton-Harlow<mailto:jpatton@ij.net> > To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:05 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > > I do too Larry. I was 7 years old when my mother took me. It made such > an > impression on me, one of my early memories which has remained. > Hopefullly > someone will tell us. > > Also, another good memory around the same time is the 1948 centennial. I > wish I knew what date that was also. My mother and father and two more > couples rode around in a 3 seat buggy in vintage clothes. The men had > all > grown beards. What fun! > > Jan > > PS Larry, did you go to Hbg. High? I graduated in 1958. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LARRY HIBBS" <larry0774@msn.com<mailto:larry0774@msn.com>> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:50 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > > > Hi Jan, I was there and remember it well. It is one of my childhood > > memories. As to the date no luck. I remember him zipping through > > Harrisburg in a car don't remember anything about a train. > > > > Larry > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jan Patton-Harlow<mailto:jpatton@ij.net<mailto:jpatton@ij.net>> > > To: > ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com>> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:08 AM > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > > > > > Hey all you Harrisburg historians, can anyone tell me on what date in > > 1948 > > Harry's cavalcade traveled through Harrisburg? Had he come in on a > > train, > > and from where? > > > > Any help appreciated. > > > > Jan > > > > > >

I remember the centennial also. Yes went to HHS left in 1958 didn't graduate Ms Shestak flunked me in history. My fault not hers. Graduated later on and went to college in the Army. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Patton-Harlow<mailto:jpatton@ij.net> To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit I do too Larry. I was 7 years old when my mother took me. It made such an impression on me, one of my early memories which has remained. Hopefullly someone will tell us. Also, another good memory around the same time is the 1948 centennial. I wish I knew what date that was also. My mother and father and two more couples rode around in a 3 seat buggy in vintage clothes. The men had all grown beards. What fun! Jan PS Larry, did you go to Hbg. High? I graduated in 1958. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LARRY HIBBS" <larry0774@msn.com<mailto:larry0774@msn.com>> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > Hi Jan, I was there and remember it well. It is one of my childhood > memories. As to the date no luck. I remember him zipping through > Harrisburg in a car don't remember anything about a train. > > Larry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jan Patton-Harlow<mailto:jpatton@ij.net<mailto:jpatton@ij.net>> > To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:08 AM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > > Hey all you Harrisburg historians, can anyone tell me on what date in > 1948 > Harry's cavalcade traveled through Harrisburg? Had he come in on a > train, > and from where? > > Any help appreciated. > > Jan > >

Mary Ann, I guess her article wouldn't be on their site then. I'm not sure of her death date, but it would have been 1900-1910. I have been told that there was a large article in the paper at the time. Thank you so much for looking. I really appreciate it. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cematapey@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman's visit to Saline Co > Jan, when did your gg grandmother pass away? The entries for the Daily > Register being in 1945 and go through 1958 - BUT - not all of the papers > are > on-line. > > Mary Ann >

Wow, Ellen, what a good memory. I don't think Bess and Margaret were with him in Hbg. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <b2tank@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman's visit to Saline Co > Re Harry Truman's visit to Harrisburg and vicinity in Sept. 1948, I was a > student at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale when he and Bess and > their > daughter Margaret came through and toured the campus, traveling by car > and > passed by me so close I could have reached out and touched it, so I got a > good view of all of them. > Ellen Ray Purdy >

Jan, when did your gg grandmother pass away? The entries for the Daily Register being in 1945 and go through 1958 - BUT - not all of the papers are on-line. Mary Ann

Re Harry Truman's visit to Harrisburg and vicinity in Sept. 1948, I was a student at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale when he and Bess and their daughter Margaret came through and toured the campus, traveling by car and passed by me so close I could have reached out and touched it, so I got a good view of all of them. Ellen Ray Purdy

Wow! Thank you Mary Ann. May I impose on you to look for just one more thing? My grgrgr grandmother Nancy Pearl Randolph died in Saline Co. at 100+ years old. Supposedly there was an article in the paper there. I don't know if ancestry would have things like that, but if you wouldn't mind, would you look? Thanks so much. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cematapey@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:21 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman's visit to Saline Co >I was curious about your comments about Harry Truman visiting Harrisburg. >I > subscribe to the Newspaper section of <ancestry.com> and found the > article > where President Truman visited Saline Co. The date was Thur. Sept. 30, > 1948. > The president drove through Harrisburg and on to Eldorado where he made a > brief speech. > > Mary Ann > _cematapey@aol.com_ (mailto:cematapey@aol.com) >

I was curious about your comments about Harry Truman visiting Harrisburg. I subscribe to the Newspaper section of <ancestry.com> and found the article where President Truman visited Saline Co. The date was Thur. Sept. 30, 1948. The president drove through Harrisburg and on to Eldorado where he made a brief speech. Mary Ann _cematapey@aol.com_ (mailto:cematapey@aol.com)

I wonder how he got to Harrisburg in the first place. Did the cavalcade drive there from another town? I'm sure it went to several towns around there. I'd still like to know at which train station he arrived at before the cavalcade got started. Good memories, huh? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wmdonsmith@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > jan---don't know date; but it was a weekday because i was in jr high and > we > walked up to main st to see him go by. was in a convertable standing up > in > back seat. > > don smith >

jan---don't know date; but it was a weekday because i was in jr high and we walked up to main st to see him go by. was in a convertable standing up in back seat. don smith

I do too Larry. I was 7 years old when my mother took me. It made such an impression on me, one of my early memories which has remained. Hopefullly someone will tell us. Also, another good memory around the same time is the 1948 centennial. I wish I knew what date that was also. My mother and father and two more couples rode around in a 3 seat buggy in vintage clothes. The men had all grown beards. What fun! Jan PS Larry, did you go to Hbg. High? I graduated in 1958. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LARRY HIBBS" <larry0774@msn.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > Hi Jan, I was there and remember it well. It is one of my childhood > memories. As to the date no luck. I remember him zipping through > Harrisburg in a car don't remember anything about a train. > > Larry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jan Patton-Harlow<mailto:jpatton@ij.net> > To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:08 AM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > > Hey all you Harrisburg historians, can anyone tell me on what date in > 1948 > Harry's cavalcade traveled through Harrisburg? Had he come in on a > train, > and from where? > > Any help appreciated. > > Jan > >

Hi Jan, I was there and remember it well. It is one of my childhood memories. As to the date no luck. I remember him zipping through Harrisburg in a car don't remember anything about a train. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Patton-Harlow<mailto:jpatton@ij.net> To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:08 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit Hey all you Harrisburg historians, can anyone tell me on what date in 1948 Harry's cavalcade traveled through Harrisburg? Had he come in on a train, and from where? Any help appreciated. Jan

Hey all you Harrisburg historians, can anyone tell me on what date in 1948 Harry's cavalcade traveled through Harrisburg? Had he come in on a train, and from where? Any help appreciated. Jan

I have come across a land record for William Cotton who was granted land in 1838. Could this be the same William K. Cotton who was (husband of Polly Brooks) father of Hannah, Benjamin, Sarah, John Henry, and America Ellen? The time is the question. Was he doing something in Vermilion County in 1838? Could he have planned on moving to White County or Saline County? The record says: To all to whom these Presents shall come, Greeting: Whereas William Cotton of White County, Illinois, etc. Velda Wittenbrink Moore vlchas@mindspring.com http://www.larrett.com/velda/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 5/12/2006

Hi Danielle. You must have subscribed to the Saline County Geneology email list. Kay posted a question (yesterday?) about the Threat/Threet family... That email goes out to everyone on the list. You probably saw one yesterday from me about Joe Smith, even. See, we all get the emails that are posted. So, everyone on the list got your email about your grandfather, see what I mean? That's the way an email list works. You have now posted to everyone on the list about your grandfather and hopefully someone, who knows, maybe even my Pop, Don, will be able to help you. I doubt Pop will know much though, as he was born in 1934, years after your grandfather died. You know that an email has come from the email list when you see [ILSALINE-L] in the subject. Good luck!! Lori Smith Andrews -----Original Message----- From: DANIELLE A FIENE [mailto:MODAFI@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:49 PM To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] THREAT / THREET families Dear Don- My name is Dee Fiene and I am the granddaughter of Asa Mott and Grace Shaw Mott from Harrisburg/Eldorado/Elizabethtown. I have been getting e mails for someone named Kay--think it might be an address error...Don't want someone to miss out on some important info--if you have any info about my great grandpa Frank Shaw prior to his death in 1920/21 I'd be interested--his death was considered a suicide, but his throat was cut through the windpipe almost ear to ear. My grandmother (Grace) could never bring herself to talk of the tragedy, but the rest of us think it was foul play. My mother was born on the Eldorado farm in 1930 and passed in 2003. I have found many of her papers and notes on the Shaw/Mott/Bauer/Ozee families but we can't get much info about Frank Shaw or James Henry Mott. Any ideas of who I could contact from that area? Thanks-and hope the e mails get to the right people!

sorry-----have no info on any of the folks you mentioned; but this note might generate some replies. it goes to quite a few people don

Dear Don- My name is Dee Fiene and I am the granddaughter of Asa Mott and Grace Shaw Mott from Harrisburg/Eldorado/Elizabethtown. I have been getting e mails for someone named Kay--think it might be an address error...Don't want someone to miss out on some important info--if you have any info about my great grandpa Frank Shaw prior to his death in 1920/21 I'd be interested--his death was considered a suicide, but his throat was cut through the windpipe almost ear to ear. My grandmother (Grace) could never bring herself to talk of the tragedy, but the rest of us think it was foul play. My mother was born on the Eldorado farm in 1930 and passed in 2003. I have found many of her papers and notes on the Shaw/Mott/Bauer/Ozee families but we can't get much info about Frank Shaw or James Henry Mott. Any ideas of who I could contact from that area? Thanks-and hope the e mails get to the right people!