I remember when the President drove through Harrisburg. I was a student at Horce Mann and the whole school was let out to walk down to Poplar Street so we could see the President. I didn't remember the date but remember seeing him. It is the only President I have seen in person since. It made a real impression on me.

the reply to my e-mail didn't have anything in it. Phyllis Kevin Frye <Frye@pstel.net> wrote: Hey gang, Just a short reminder to the vets and newbies at this site of my free research for the asking here at Andersonville Civil War Prisoner of War site. There are more than 41000 Union soldiers on record from all states, and 4518 are from Illinois. Please email me directly at Frye@pstel.net with request so we dont tie up the county site. Kevin Andersonville Historic Site Historian / NPS Volunteer www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:42:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jpatton@ij.net writes: Do you know if one of your Grathler ancestors was ever married to a Randolph or a Norman? Jan Jan, not that I know of. Sam

Hey gang, Just a short reminder to the vets and newbies at this site of my free research for the asking here at Andersonville Civil War Prisoner of War site. There are more than 41000 Union soldiers on record from all states, and 4518 are from Illinois. Please email me directly at Frye@pstel.net with request so we dont tie up the county site. Kevin Andersonville Historic Site Historian / NPS Volunteer www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html

thank you!

I found it once before, but now I can't find the web site, I'm looking for the address (and cost) of obtaining a marriage license from Saline Co. The marriage was Charles Toney and Julia Etta Lauderback married September 25, 1893. Thanks P. Krause

Saline County Courthouse 10 E. Poplar Street Harrisburg, IL 62946 a.. Telephone: County Clerk Circuit Clerk Recorder (618) 253-8197 (618) 253-5096 (618) 253-8197 IRAD Depository c/o Special Collections Morris Library-6632 Southern Illinois University Carbondale, IL 62901 a.. Telephone: (618) 453-3040 I think my last one was $7.00, been a while Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pammie" <kibbles@bellsouth.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:07 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] marriage license >I found it once before, but now I can't find the web site, I'm looking for > the address (and cost) of obtaining a marriage license from Saline Co. > The > marriage was Charles Toney and Julia Etta Lauderback married September 25, > 1893. Thanks > > > > P. Krause > > >

Does anyone have any information about the Mott's restaurant in Vienna? I found an auction poster from 1950 when the restaurant closed...but wondered if anyone had any personal memories or stories.

Lori, it's in Williamson County, near Carterville. Angie On 5/23/06, LAMC98@aol.com <LAMC98@aol.com> wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a Hinchcliff Cemetery in Saline or Williamson > County, Illinois. > > Looking for Martha (Tucker) Loyd Bailey, buried there, died in 1918. > > Thank you, > > Lori > >

Does anyone know if there is a Hinchcliff Cemetery in Saline or Williamson County, Illinois. Looking for Martha (Tucker) Loyd Bailey, buried there, died in 1918. Thank you, Lori

Taken from the Daily Register, Thur., Sept. 30, 1948 "...President Truman's tour through Harrisburg was a part of a one-day trip through southern Illinois and into Kentucky, where he will give his main speech of the day at Louisville tonight." "...The President left his special train at 7:35 a.m. at Mt. Vernon and went through Benton, West Frankfort, Herrin, and on to Carbondale, where he gave his principal speech in southern Illinois. From Carbondale Mr. Truman's party sped on to Carterville, Marion, and into Harrisburg." "...Without hesitating, the long parade of police, buses, and accompanying cars sped on through Harrisburg and on to Eldorado, where Mr. Truman spoke briefly." "...Poplar street was crowded with multitudes of persons for its entire length. It ws reported that cars were lined along Route 13 all the way from Marion and on to Eldorado on Route 45."

You are right, and I have just started corresponding privately with some of them. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Burd" <jcburd@midwest.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Changing the subject line > Doesn't the subject line "Harry Truman's visit" need to be changed to > reflect the actual subject of the message? > Charlotte >

yup------only president i've ever seen in person. don't know where he came from or how he got to hbg, only thing i remember was he was heading toward marion. don

Parish, The DNA test will show us which Randolph from whence we came. There are several and they are not all from the Peyton, or as we call it the Va. line. That's why we need it. I guess we need a descendant of one of the latest Randolphs from this line that we can find. I know that Benno died last year before I could contact him. I think he had some sons but don't know who they are. He lived in Paducah. Our Samuel was not married to Mary Payne, but had 4 wives, two of which he married in Tn. I'll be happy to call you but it will have to be after I pull out some files, Maybe I can do that tonight or tomorrow. I had a computer crash a while back, and, you guessed it, I did not have a back-up. I was always going to do that and . . . Did you grow up in Hbg.? I'm sending this through the Saline list, hoping another of our "cousins" will see it. But, feel free to send me any future mail to jpatton@ij.net; Jan Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Parish Tanner" <parish@parish-tanner.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > Great to hear from you and find a distant Cousin as such. I parents say > that grandma was very proud of the randolph side, and parish side. I guess > she was just proud of her family. > I am Very intersted in getting more of the Randolph line put in my FTM > file. > > I have a Samuel Richard Randolph born in 1824 as well as the samuel Peyton > married to mary payne. I dont have his B-Day but his Death was in 1852 as > i have it. If you have the correct info i would love to add it and correct > mine. > > I would love to have access to the randolph site. What is the DNA test > for? just to verify the link? > > What has been so baffling for so long on this line? > > Jan Patton-Harlow <jpatton@ij.net> wrote: We are from the same line of > Randolphs. My gr grandmother, Eulalia King > Randolph's (not the same line as my other Saline Co. Randolphs that I know > of yet) was the d/o Nathaniel Easterly Randolph. > > Samuel's middle name was Samuel Richard, not Peyton. In fact, he went by > Richard in Pope Co. > > My uncle Victor Randolph who just died a couple of months ago at 92, says > that Mary Shrum's name is right, even though she is listed as Mary Reed on > the marriage certificate. > > All my family is buried at Sulpher Springs Cem. And so is William > Johnson. > > I'm so glad to hear from you. I have been looking for a DNA donor from > this > line for a long time. I belong the the RandolphMyFamily site and would be > happy to send you an invitation if you would like. This line is one that > has been baffling for years. > > The cost of the DNA test is $99 and three of us are willing to pay for it > if > you kniow of any living Randolphs from that line. Would it be possible > that > you do? > > John Wm. and Mary Reavis Randolph has not been found before move to Pope > Co. > in the mid 1840's from Tn. We are not even sure which county in Tn. > > Let's talk some more. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Parish Tanner" > > To: > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:59 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > >> Jan, You said you were researching the Randolph line, any chance our >> randolphs are connected? >> >> 1 Samuel Peyton Randolph >> ........ 2 John William Randolph 1796 - >> .............. +Mary Ann Reavis >> ................... 3 Nathaniel Easterly Randolph >> 1829 - 1909 >> ......................... +Mary Shrum 1828 - 1863 >> ............................. 4 William Johnson >> Randolph 1852 - 1912 >> ........................................ 5 Alice Ida >> Randolph 1872 - 1929 >> .............................................. +Joshua >> Hardin Rickman 1861 - >> .................................................. 6 >> Portia Isabel Rickman >> ........................................................ >> +John Grant >> ........................................ 5 Julius >> Martin >> Randolph 1875 - 1946 >> ........................................ 5 Florence >> Gertrude Randolph 1898 - 1980 >> ........................................ 5 Fred >> Randolph >> 1879 - 1895 >> ........................................ 5 Alphias >> Randolph 1879 - >> ........................................ 5 Benno >> Randolph >> ........................................ 5 Tennessee >> Randolph >> ........................................ 5 Mona Marie >> Randolph 1893 - 1973 >> ........................................ 5 Bruno Ernest >> Randolph 1885 - 1965 >> ........................................ 5 Claudius Leo >> Randolph 1887 - 1960 >> ........................................ 5 Rayond >> Rudolph Randolph 1890 - 1944 >> ........................................ 5 Nathanial >> Easterly Randolph 1881 - 1954 >> ........................................ 5 Mabel >> Randolph 1883 - >> ........................................ 5 Nathaniel >> Samuel Randolph >> ........................................ 5 Child >> Randolph >> ................................... +Nancy Narsissa >> Gullett 1854 - 1939 >> ........................................ 5 Portia >> Azalea >> Randolph 1877 - 1951 >> .............................................. +Phillip >> Sheridan Parish 1868 - 1930 >> .................................................. 6 >> Anna Marie Parish >> ........................................................ >> +? Coleman >> .................................................. 6 >> Mildred Carrie Parish >> .................................................. 6 >> Gertrude Parish >> .................................................. 6 >> Alice Martha Parish 1897 - 1981 >> ........................................................ >> +Lee Roy Tanner 1894 - 1981 >> ........ 2 William Thomas Randolph 1796 - 1850 >> >> http://www.parish-tanner.com/Parish/RandolphFamily.html >> >> My grand mother was Alice Martha Parish, Her mother was Portia Azalea >> Randolph married to Philip Sheridan Parish. Portia had a sister named >> Alice Ida Randolph who married a Rickman. It is said that Portia named >> Grandma Alice after her sister, and her sister name a daughter Alice >> after her sister. My sister is Alice and My daughter is Alice. >> >> Reguards, >> Parish >> >> Jan Patton-Harlow wrote: I think I remember you, I'm not >> sure. My name was Janice Norman. >> >> I've been researching my Norman, Butler, Bush and Randolph ancestors from >> there for a while. >> >> It seems that this list isn't very active any more. >> >> Jan > > > > >

Doesn't the subject line "Harry Truman's visit" need to be changed to reflect the actual subject of the message? Charlotte

Do you know if one of your Grathler ancestors was ever married to a Randolph or a Norman? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <SSmith0940@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Samuel Lee Grathler Sr. > This notice was on the Harrisburg Daily Register website this morning (see > question below): > > Samuel Lee Grathler Sr., 79, of Harrisburg, died 9:24 p.m. Saturday, May > 20, > 2006, at the V.A. Medical Center in Marion. > The family will be greeting friends 2 to 4 p.m. Tuesday, May 23, 2006, at > 1014 S. Land St., Harrisburg. Arrangements are in the charge of Reed > Funeral > Chapel. > He was born Jan. 23, 1927, in Harrisburg to the late Samuel Lee and > Versie > (Tucker) Grathler. On July 10, 1960, he married the former Phyllis > Gibbons, > who survives in Harrisburg. > He was a core driller who attended Palestine Social Brethren Church. > In addition to his wife, he is survived by five sons, Gary (Valerie) > Grathler of Harrisburg, Roy (Marie) Grathler of Murphysboro, Troy (Peggy) > Grathler > of Harrisburg, Jeff (Wanda) Grathler of Creal Springs and Steve (Tammy) > Grathler of Eldorado; three daughters, Lisa (Lee) Buchanan of St. Louis, > Mo., > Brenda Grathler of Harrisburg and Sandra Presson of Fort Campbell, Ky.; a > stepson, > Robert Noell of Harrisburg; 10 grandchildren, Mycra Cook, Austin > Buchanan, > Samantha and Hannah Grathler, Cory Grathler, Tina Grathler, Karon Hooks, > Jordan Grathler, Wyatt Grathler and Brianna Presson; a stepgrandson, Josh > Noell; > three great-grandchildren; a sister, Beatrice Tucker of Knoxville, Tenn.; > and > several nieces and nephews. > In addition to his parents, he was preceded in death by a son, Samuel Lee > Grathler Jr.; a grandson, Nolan Grathler; and two brothers, Lester and > Robert > J. Grathler. > In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to the family. > Condolences may be sent to family members through the Obituary Page of > _www.reedfuneralchapel.com_ (http://www.reedfuneralchapel.com) . > I have a Samuel L. Grathler (b. December 29, 1858, d. September 8, 1907) > and > wife Mary Elmina Dunn (b. February 11, 1860 d. November 22, 1934). Is > this > the same Samuel L. Grathler that is the father of Samuel L. Grathler Sr.? > Sam > >

We are from the same line of Randolphs. My gr grandmother, Eulalia King Randolph's (not the same line as my other Saline Co. Randolphs that I know of yet) was the d/o Nathaniel Easterly Randolph. Samuel's middle name was Samuel Richard, not Peyton. In fact, he went by Richard in Pope Co. My uncle Victor Randolph who just died a couple of months ago at 92, says that Mary Shrum's name is right, even though she is listed as Mary Reed on the marriage certificate. All my family is buried at Sulpher Springs Cem. And so is William Johnson. I'm so glad to hear from you. I have been looking for a DNA donor from this line for a long time. I belong the the RandolphMyFamily site and would be happy to send you an invitation if you would like. This line is one that has been baffling for years. The cost of the DNA test is $99 and three of us are willing to pay for it if you kniow of any living Randolphs from that line. Would it be possible that you do? John Wm. and Mary Reavis Randolph has not been found before move to Pope Co. in the mid 1840's from Tn. We are not even sure which county in Tn. Let's talk some more. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Parish Tanner" <parish@parish-tanner.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > Jan, You said you were researching the Randolph line, any chance our > randolphs are connected? > > 1 Samuel Peyton Randolph > ........ 2 John William Randolph 1796 - > .............. +Mary Ann Reavis > ................... 3 Nathaniel Easterly Randolph > 1829 - 1909 > ......................... +Mary Shrum 1828 - 1863 > ............................. 4 William Johnson > Randolph 1852 - 1912 > ........................................ 5 Alice Ida > Randolph 1872 - 1929 > .............................................. +Joshua > Hardin Rickman 1861 - > .................................................. 6 > Portia Isabel Rickman > ........................................................ > +John Grant > ........................................ 5 Julius Martin > Randolph 1875 - 1946 > ........................................ 5 Florence > Gertrude Randolph 1898 - 1980 > ........................................ 5 Fred Randolph > 1879 - 1895 > ........................................ 5 Alphias > Randolph 1879 - > ........................................ 5 Benno > Randolph > ........................................ 5 Tennessee > Randolph > ........................................ 5 Mona Marie > Randolph 1893 - 1973 > ........................................ 5 Bruno Ernest > Randolph 1885 - 1965 > ........................................ 5 Claudius Leo > Randolph 1887 - 1960 > ........................................ 5 Rayond > Rudolph Randolph 1890 - 1944 > ........................................ 5 Nathanial > Easterly Randolph 1881 - 1954 > ........................................ 5 Mabel > Randolph 1883 - > ........................................ 5 Nathaniel > Samuel Randolph > ........................................ 5 Child > Randolph > ................................... +Nancy Narsissa > Gullett 1854 - 1939 > ........................................ 5 Portia Azalea > Randolph 1877 - 1951 > .............................................. +Phillip > Sheridan Parish 1868 - 1930 > .................................................. 6 > Anna Marie Parish > ........................................................ > +? Coleman > .................................................. 6 > Mildred Carrie Parish > .................................................. 6 > Gertrude Parish > .................................................. 6 > Alice Martha Parish 1897 - 1981 > ........................................................ > +Lee Roy Tanner 1894 - 1981 > ........ 2 William Thomas Randolph 1796 - 1850 > > http://www.parish-tanner.com/Parish/RandolphFamily.html > > My grand mother was Alice Martha Parish, Her mother was Portia Azalea > Randolph married to Philip Sheridan Parish. Portia had a sister named > Alice Ida Randolph who married a Rickman. It is said that Portia named > Grandma Alice after her sister, and her sister name a daughter Alice > after her sister. My sister is Alice and My daughter is Alice. > > Reguards, > Parish > > Jan Patton-Harlow <jpatton@ij.net> wrote: I think I remember you, I'm not > sure. My name was Janice Norman. > > I've been researching my Norman, Butler, Bush and Randolph ancestors from > there for a while. > > It seems that this list isn't very active any more. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LARRY HIBBS" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > >>I remember the centennial also. Yes went to HHS left in 1958 didn't >>graduate Ms Shestak flunked me in history. My fault not hers. Graduated >>later on and went to college in the Army. >> Larry >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jan Patton-Harlow >> To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:05 AM >> Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit >> >> >> I do too Larry. I was 7 years old when my mother took me. It made such >> an >> impression on me, one of my early memories which has remained. >> Hopefullly >> someone will tell us. >> >> Also, another good memory around the same time is the 1948 centennial. >> I >> wish I knew what date that was also. My mother and father and two more >> couples rode around in a 3 seat buggy in vintage clothes. The men had >> all >> grown beards. What fun! >> >> Jan >> >> PS Larry, did you go to Hbg. High? I graduated in 1958. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "LARRY HIBBS" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit >> >> >> > Hi Jan, I was there and remember it well. It is one of my childhood >> > memories. As to the date no luck. I remember him zipping through >> > Harrisburg in a car don't remember anything about a train. >> > >> > Larry >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Jan Patton-Harlow> >> > To: >> ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:08 AM >> > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit >> > >> > >> > Hey all you Harrisburg historians, can anyone tell me on what date in >> > 1948 >> > Harry's cavalcade traveled through Harrisburg? Had he come in on a >> > train, >> > and from where? >> > >> > Any help appreciated. >> > >> > Jan >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >

This notice was on the Harrisburg Daily Register website this morning (see question below): Samuel Lee Grathler Sr., 79, of Harrisburg, died 9:24 p.m. Saturday, May 20, 2006, at the V.A. Medical Center in Marion. The family will be greeting friends 2 to 4 p.m. Tuesday, May 23, 2006, at 1014 S. Land St., Harrisburg. Arrangements are in the charge of Reed Funeral Chapel. He was born Jan. 23, 1927, in Harrisburg to the late Samuel Lee and Versie (Tucker) Grathler. On July 10, 1960, he married the former Phyllis Gibbons, who survives in Harrisburg. He was a core driller who attended Palestine Social Brethren Church. In addition to his wife, he is survived by five sons, Gary (Valerie) Grathler of Harrisburg, Roy (Marie) Grathler of Murphysboro, Troy (Peggy) Grathler of Harrisburg, Jeff (Wanda) Grathler of Creal Springs and Steve (Tammy) Grathler of Eldorado; three daughters, Lisa (Lee) Buchanan of St. Louis, Mo., Brenda Grathler of Harrisburg and Sandra Presson of Fort Campbell, Ky.; a stepson, Robert Noell of Harrisburg; 10 grandchildren, Mycra Cook, Austin Buchanan, Samantha and Hannah Grathler, Cory Grathler, Tina Grathler, Karon Hooks, Jordan Grathler, Wyatt Grathler and Brianna Presson; a stepgrandson, Josh Noell; three great-grandchildren; a sister, Beatrice Tucker of Knoxville, Tenn.; and several nieces and nephews. In addition to his parents, he was preceded in death by a son, Samuel Lee Grathler Jr.; a grandson, Nolan Grathler; and two brothers, Lester and Robert J. Grathler. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to the family. Condolences may be sent to family members through the Obituary Page of _www.reedfuneralchapel.com_ (http://www.reedfuneralchapel.com) . I have a Samuel L. Grathler (b. December 29, 1858, d. September 8, 1907) and wife Mary Elmina Dunn (b. February 11, 1860 d. November 22, 1934). Is this the same Samuel L. Grathler that is the father of Samuel L. Grathler Sr.? Sam

Jan, Thank you, I dont see a DNA test being an Issue. I can do one. My dad is still around but dont know that we need to have him do it. I grew up in Springfield, Ill. My dad is still there in the house may Grandparents bought in 1942. they are both burried some where in Harrisburg and would love to get pics of the headstones, as well as any of the ancestors to post on my site http://www.parish-tanner.com/Parish/RandolphFamily.html I would also love to get any more history i can on this branch of my family to post. You may call me when ever. When i am at home the cell is hit and miss but give it a shot and we can chat. I have also just found a Eppes-randolph site that links to Thomas Jefferson. Kind of interesting. http://members.aol.com/CHUICY/eppes.html Talk to you later Jan Patton-Harlow <jpatton@ij.net> wrote: Parish, The DNA test will show us which Randolph from whence we came. There are several and they are not all from the Peyton, or as we call it the Va. line. That's why we need it. I guess we need a descendant of one of the latest Randolphs from this line that we can find. I know that Benno died last year before I could contact him. I think he had some sons but don't know who they are. He lived in Paducah. Our Samuel was not married to Mary Payne, but had 4 wives, two of which he married in Tn. I'll be happy to call you but it will have to be after I pull out some files, Maybe I can do that tonight or tomorrow. I had a computer crash a while back, and, you guessed it, I did not have a back-up. I was always going to do that and . . . Did you grow up in Hbg.? I'm sending this through the Saline list, hoping another of our "cousins" will see it. But, feel free to send me any future mail to jpatton@ij.net; Jan Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Parish Tanner" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > Great to hear from you and find a distant Cousin as such. I parents say > that grandma was very proud of the randolph side, and parish side. I guess > she was just proud of her family. > I am Very intersted in getting more of the Randolph line put in my FTM > file. > > I have a Samuel Richard Randolph born in 1824 as well as the samuel Peyton > married to mary payne. I dont have his B-Day but his Death was in 1852 as > i have it. If you have the correct info i would love to add it and correct > mine. > > I would love to have access to the randolph site. What is the DNA test > for? just to verify the link? > > What has been so baffling for so long on this line? > > Jan Patton-Harlow wrote: We are from the same line of > Randolphs. My gr grandmother, Eulalia King > Randolph's (not the same line as my other Saline Co. Randolphs that I know > of yet) was the d/o Nathaniel Easterly Randolph. > > Samuel's middle name was Samuel Richard, not Peyton. In fact, he went by > Richard in Pope Co. > > My uncle Victor Randolph who just died a couple of months ago at 92, says > that Mary Shrum's name is right, even though she is listed as Mary Reed on > the marriage certificate. > > All my family is buried at Sulpher Springs Cem. And so is William > Johnson. > > I'm so glad to hear from you. I have been looking for a DNA donor from > this > line for a long time. I belong the the RandolphMyFamily site and would be > happy to send you an invitation if you would like. This line is one that > has been baffling for years. > > The cost of the DNA test is $99 and three of us are willing to pay for it > if > you kniow of any living Randolphs from that line. Would it be possible > that > you do? > > John Wm. and Mary Reavis Randolph has not been found before move to Pope > Co. > in the mid 1840's from Tn. We are not even sure which county in Tn. > > Let's talk some more. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Parish Tanner" > > To: > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:59 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > > >> Jan, You said you were researching the Randolph line, any chance our >> randolphs are connected? >> >> 1 Samuel Peyton Randolph >> ........ 2 John William Randolph 1796 - >> .............. +Mary Ann Reavis >> ................... 3 Nathaniel Easterly Randolph >> 1829 - 1909 >> ......................... +Mary Shrum 1828 - 1863 >> ............................. 4 William Johnson >> Randolph 1852 - 1912 >> ........................................ 5 Alice Ida >> Randolph 1872 - 1929 >> .............................................. +Joshua >> Hardin Rickman 1861 - >> .................................................. 6 >> Portia Isabel Rickman >> ........................................................ >> +John Grant >> ........................................ 5 Julius >> Martin >> Randolph 1875 - 1946 >> ........................................ 5 Florence >> Gertrude Randolph 1898 - 1980 >> ........................................ 5 Fred >> Randolph >> 1879 - 1895 >> ........................................ 5 Alphias >> Randolph 1879 - >> ........................................ 5 Benno >> Randolph >> ........................................ 5 Tennessee >> Randolph >> ........................................ 5 Mona Marie >> Randolph 1893 - 1973 >> ........................................ 5 Bruno Ernest >> Randolph 1885 - 1965 >> ........................................ 5 Claudius Leo >> Randolph 1887 - 1960 >> ........................................ 5 Rayond >> Rudolph Randolph 1890 - 1944 >> ........................................ 5 Nathanial >> Easterly Randolph 1881 - 1954 >> ........................................ 5 Mabel >> Randolph 1883 - >> ........................................ 5 Nathaniel >> Samuel Randolph >> ........................................ 5 Child >> Randolph >> ................................... +Nancy Narsissa >> Gullett 1854 - 1939 >> ........................................ 5 Portia >> Azalea >> Randolph 1877 - 1951 >> .............................................. +Phillip >> Sheridan Parish 1868 - 1930 >> .................................................. 6 >> Anna Marie Parish >> ........................................................ >> +? Coleman >> .................................................. 6 >> Mildred Carrie Parish >> .................................................. 6 >> Gertrude Parish >> .................................................. 6 >> Alice Martha Parish 1897 - 1981 >> ........................................................ >> +Lee Roy Tanner 1894 - 1981 >> ........ 2 William Thomas Randolph 1796 - 1850 >> >> http://www.parish-tanner.com/Parish/RandolphFamily.html >> >> My grand mother was Alice Martha Parish, Her mother was Portia Azalea >> Randolph married to Philip Sheridan Parish. Portia had a sister named >> Alice Ida Randolph who married a Rickman. It is said that Portia named >> Grandma Alice after her sister, and her sister name a daughter Alice >> after her sister. My sister is Alice and My daughter is Alice. >> >> Reguards, >> Parish >> >> Jan Patton-Harlow wrote: I think I remember you, I'm not >> sure. My name was Janice Norman. >> >> I've been researching my Norman, Butler, Bush and Randolph ancestors from >> there for a while. >> >> It seems that this list isn't very active any more. >> >> Jan > > > > >

Great to hear from you and find a distant Cousin as such. I parents say that grandma was very proud of the randolph side, and parish side. I guess she was just proud of her family. I am Very intersted in getting more of the Randolph line put in my FTM file. I have a Samuel Richard Randolph born in 1824 as well as the samuel Peyton married to mary payne. I dont have his B-Day but his Death was in 1852 as i have it. If you have the correct info i would love to add it and correct mine. I would love to have access to the randolph site. What is the DNA test for? just to verify the link? What has been so baffling for so long on this line? Jan Patton-Harlow <jpatton@ij.net> wrote: We are from the same line of Randolphs. My gr grandmother, Eulalia King Randolph's (not the same line as my other Saline Co. Randolphs that I know of yet) was the d/o Nathaniel Easterly Randolph. Samuel's middle name was Samuel Richard, not Peyton. In fact, he went by Richard in Pope Co. My uncle Victor Randolph who just died a couple of months ago at 92, says that Mary Shrum's name is right, even though she is listed as Mary Reed on the marriage certificate. All my family is buried at Sulpher Springs Cem. And so is William Johnson. I'm so glad to hear from you. I have been looking for a DNA donor from this line for a long time. I belong the the RandolphMyFamily site and would be happy to send you an invitation if you would like. This line is one that has been baffling for years. The cost of the DNA test is $99 and three of us are willing to pay for it if you kniow of any living Randolphs from that line. Would it be possible that you do? John Wm. and Mary Reavis Randolph has not been found before move to Pope Co. in the mid 1840's from Tn. We are not even sure which county in Tn. Let's talk some more. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Parish Tanner" To: Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harry Truman visit > Jan, You said you were researching the Randolph line, any chance our > randolphs are connected? > > 1 Samuel Peyton Randolph > ........ 2 John William Randolph 1796 - > .............. +Mary Ann Reavis > ................... 3 Nathaniel Easterly Randolph > 1829 - 1909 > ......................... +Mary Shrum 1828 - 1863 > ............................. 4 William Johnson > Randolph 1852 - 1912 > ........................................ 5 Alice Ida > Randolph 1872 - 1929 > .............................................. +Joshua > Hardin Rickman 1861 - > .................................................. 6 > Portia Isabel Rickman > ........................................................ > +John Grant > ........................................ 5 Julius Martin > Randolph 1875 - 1946 > ........................................ 5 Florence > Gertrude Randolph 1898 - 1980 > ........................................ 5 Fred Randolph > 1879 - 1895 > ........................................ 5 Alphias > Randolph 1879 - > ........................................ 5 Benno > Randolph > ........................................ 5 Tennessee > Randolph > ........................................ 5 Mona Marie > Randolph 1893 - 1973 > ........................................ 5 Bruno Ernest > Randolph 1885 - 1965 > ........................................ 5 Claudius Leo > Randolph 1887 - 1960 > ........................................ 5 Rayond > Rudolph Randolph 1890 - 1944 > ........................................ 5 Nathanial > Easterly Randolph 1881 - 1954 > ........................................ 5 Mabel > Randolph 1883 - > ........................................ 5 Nathaniel > Samuel Randolph > ........................................ 5 Child > Randolph > ................................... +Nancy Narsissa > Gullett 1854 - 1939 > ........................................ 5 Portia Azalea > Randolph 1877 - 1951 > .............................................. +Phillip > Sheridan Parish 1868 - 1930 > .................................................. 6 > Anna Marie Parish > ........................................................ > +? Coleman > .................................................. 6 > Mildred Carrie Parish > .................................................. 6 > Gertrude Parish > .................................................. 6 > Alice Martha Parish 1897 - 1981 > ........................................................ > +Lee Roy Tanner 1894 - 1981 > ........ 2 William Thomas Randolph 1796 - 1850 > > http://www.parish-tanner.com/Parish/RandolphFamily.html > > My grand mother was Alice Martha Parish, Her mother was Portia Azalea > Randolph married to Philip Sheridan Parish. Portia had a sister named > Alice Ida Randolph who married a Rickman. It is said that Portia named > Grandma Alice after her sister, and her sister name a daughter Alice > after her sister. My sister is Alice and My daughter is Alice. > > Reguards, > Parish > > Jan Patton-Harlow wrote: I think I remember you, I'm not > sure. My name was Janice Norman. > > I've been researching my Norman, Butler, Bush and Randolph ancestors from > there for a while. > > It seems that this list isn't very active any more. > > Jan