Sorry folks, got to catch up with me inputting....will be back soon.... Thanks for all of the information. Please dis enroll me!! Deb --- --- debbielminer@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

I have not seen the coroner's inquest, but do have a copy of Mary and Delilah Duncan's court record. If you would like to exchange data I can send it to you a piece at a time or as a Microsoft Word File. let me know.

I would like to exchange data with you, but I am afraid that most of my research has been on Thomas W. Duncan and his father Stephen C. Duncan. Thomas and Delilah's daughter Mary Duncan married my great grandfather Amos Thornsbury Vineyard August 16, 1866. Mary died December 8, 1930 in Saline Co., Illinois. I have compiled a lot of data on Thomas and Delilah's children. My file on Wambles contains two articles from Springhouse Magazine in 1984. These records were furnished to my cousin by Ruth Cavender of Drayton Plains, MI. I have tried without any luck to find census records to support this article.

I have not received a copy of the Shawnee Quarterly since the spring 2000 issue. Has one been published? I am a member of the Genealogy Society and I thought this was included in the cost of membership. Phyllis Newsome Kicker475@cs.com

Is anyone researching Wamble or Womble? Seems like I saw a posting on Wamble, but I've lost it. Looking for information on Simon Womble children Lucinda m. Joseph Lambert, Malinda m. Johnston Lambert, Delilah m. Thomas W. Duncan (my line), Elizabeth m. William Duncan, Mary Ann "Polly" m. Alfred Yewell, then Stephen C. Duncan, Jr., and Caroline m. Milton R. Lightner.

I don't know if this book is available for purchase, but you should find the book in any large genealogical library. I understand that the Illinois State Historical Library has this book in Springfield, Ill. It may be available on inter-library loan of even from the LDS (see microfilm version below). The History of Gallatin, Saline, Hamilton, Franklin and Williamson Counties, Illinois was reprinted by Unigraphic, Inc. in 1976. There is also a series of Microfilms printed by Research Republicans, Inc. of New Haven, Ct. This book is found on their microfilm Reel No. 25.

There's not a whole lot on the Womble's. Ol' Simon is pretty elusive and the story of him being Indian is completely unsubstantiated. He is most likely a son of Benjamin Womble of NC, but so far this unproven. The line seems to originate with a common ancestor Thomas Wombwell (the immigrant) in Isle of Wight County, VA, in the 1600's. Simon appears in the 1830 and 1840 Gallatin Co census. I'm speculating some that we may be dealing with 2 Simon Womble's. There is a marriage in 1840 for a Simon Womble to a Sally Shrum in Gallatin Co. She later appears in MO (not proven to be same one) with some Womble children in her household. I believe Rowena Ingram had the marriage for Simon in Maury Co, TN. I've had the Maury Co. marriages searched and found no marriage for him there. Simon is in the 1790 Pitt Co, NC census and appears married with 1 child. The Duncan's are a rather infamous line aren't they? <g> Have your seen the coroner's inquest for Amos? Our line descends from Thomas and Delilah's daughter Margaret who married George Harner. Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <GARVINTX@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Wamble/Womble > I would like to exchange data with you, but I am afraid that most of my > research has been on Thomas W. Duncan and his father Stephen C. Duncan. > Thomas and Delilah's daughter Mary Duncan married my great grandfather Amos > Thornsbury Vineyard August 16, 1866. Mary died December 8, 1930 in Saline > Co., Illinois. I have compiled a lot of data on Thomas and Delilah's > children. My file on Wambles contains two articles from Springhouse Magazine > in 1984. These records were furnished to my cousin by Ruth Cavender of > Drayton Plains, MI. I have tried without any luck to find census records to > support this article. >

If anyone looks at this book, would you see if there are any COTTONs in it. Thank you very much. Velda Moore -----Original Message----- From: GARVINTX@aol.com [mailto:GARVINTX@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:09 PM To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Vinyard / Vineyard - lineage I don't know if this book is available for purchase, but you should find the book in any large genealogical library. I understand that the Illinois State Historical Library has this book in Springfield, Ill. It may be available on inter-library loan of even from the LDS (see microfilm version below). The History of Gallatin, Saline, Hamilton, Franklin and Williamson Counties, Illinois was reprinted by Unigraphic, Inc. in 1976. There is also a series of Microfilms printed by Research Republicans, Inc. of New Haven, Ct. This book is found on their microfilm Reel No. 25.

Hi, I'm researching that line. The line I'm researching descends through Delilah Womble, who married Thomas Duncan. Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <GARVINTX@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:20 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Wamble/Womble > Is anyone researching Wamble or Womble? Seems like I saw a posting on > Wamble, but I've lost it. > > Looking for information on Simon Womble children Lucinda m. Joseph Lambert, > Malinda m. Johnston Lambert, Delilah m. Thomas W. Duncan (my line), Elizabeth > m. William Duncan, Mary Ann "Polly" m. Alfred Yewell, then Stephen C. Duncan, > Jr., and Caroline m. Milton R. Lightner. >

<A HREF="http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/marriage.html">Illinois Statewide Marriage Index</A> Donna Here it is JoAnn

Donna I tried to get into the site on statewide marriage Index and I couldn't get into it. Judy

I've lost the address to the Ill. Marriage Index. Could someone please remind me? Thanks. Donna

Judy, Make sure you don't have any filtering software going (NetNanny, Cybersitter, NetWatch, etc.). For some reason when I have my filtering software on, I can't get into the Marriage index site either. Jackie Wilson Smith At 06:59 PM 10/09/2000, you wrote: >Donna >I tried to get into the site on statewide marriage Index and I couldn't get >into it. >Judy

Connie Thank you so much for the official information on my family in Eldorado. What would we all do with such wonderful people out there doing research! Thanks again! Judy

McGuinn, McDonald >From the Martin Funeral Home Directory, Part 3, 1025 to 1934: Cecilia McGuinn: B: Sep 20, 1887, IN, 1. Eldorado, D: Jun 15, 1933 Buried St Mary Cemetery, Father: Thomas McDonald, B: IN, Mother: Mary Aldredge, B: IN, Spouse: James McGuinn Thomas James McDonald, B: Oct 21, 1859, IN, l. Eldorado, D: Nov 20, 1926 agina pectoris, Buried: Mt. Vernon, IN, Father: Patrick McDonald, Born: Ireland, Mother: Mary Cully, occupation: farmer Hope this helps or gives you clues to further your research. Connie in CA

In a message dated 10/2/00 6:23:01 PM Central Daylight Time, GARVINTX@aol.com writes: << This information comes from a book The History of Gallatin, Saline, Hamilton, Franklin, & Williamson Counties, IL printed in 1887. >> Is this book still available to purchase? Kathy Kathleen HAYES Yandell LaRose Searching : Golden, Hayes, Miller, Moore, Reid, Thompson, Woods, Bagby, Beckwith, Bumgardener, Eggleston, Floyd, Fuller, Hardy, Hayward, Hokinson, Jones, Kee, Lawson, Marple, McHenry, Robinson, Snellen, Troth, Woodford, Dugan, Glenn, Thornton, Yandell, Hicks, Stone, Robertson, and Sheldon

Surname:McGuinn, McDonald I am looking for information on a Martin McGuinn believed to have lived in Eldorado. Also looking for a Thomas (b10/21/1859-d11/20/1926) and Mary(Aldredge) McDonald (b6/5/1858 -d6/5/1916)who lived in Eldorado. They both died in Eldorado. Would love to have a list of their siblings, etc. or any other information available. Thanks in advance.

Norm, I was right that this is the same line, but we skipped a generation. John R. COFFEE and Nancy RHINE had a son named William , b. 1870. William married Josephine Unknown and one of their children was James Arthur COFFEE. Then we can go from there forward. Most of these people are buried at Rhine Cemetery. I apologize for the mistake. But this is now a more definite connection, because the RHINE side is one of my major lines (and my maiden name as well). If you would like more, let me know. Best wishes, Barbara

Norm, You're right - this is the same line. I don't have anything on John's children by his second wife due to the marriage date and census records not cooperating with each other. If you have any dates, etc., let me know and we'll try to connect these all together. Barbara "Norman L. Gidcumb" wrote: > Barbara, > > I am not sure if this is the same John Coffee that married Nancy Rhine. I > have very little on this family where as it married into my Gidcumb's and > what I have are just the parents and grandparents of one of them. Second > thought, as they are buried in the Rhine Cemetery there's most likely a > connection. > > If you find that it is the same John Coffee and need any of the Gidcumb info > let me know. > > Regards, > Norm

Barbara, I am not sure if this is the same John Coffee that married Nancy Rhine. I have very little on this family where as it married into my Gidcumb's and what I have are just the parents and grandparents of one of them. Second thought, as they are buried in the Rhine Cemetery there's most likely a connection. If you find that it is the same John Coffee and need any of the Gidcumb info let me know. Regards, Norm