In case some of you searching for roots and need to contact a funeral home for a records check, I found these on the internet yellow pages Campbell Funeral Home 609 West Main Street, Carmi, IL 62821 (618) 382-5222 Fair-Kittinger Funeral Home 200 South Walnut Street, Carmi, IL 62821 (618) 382-4141 Kittinger-Fair Funeral Home Nrs # C, Carmi, IL 62821 (618) 382-4142 Bean Colonial Terrace Funeral Home 700 4th Street, Eldorado, IL 62930 (618) 273-2551 Watson Funeral Home 1517 Locust Street, Eldorado, IL 62930 (618) 273-7916 Gaskins Funeral Home PC 109 West Poplar Street, Harrisburg, IL 62946 (618) 253-7979 Jackson Funeral Home 415 East Walnut Street, Harrisburg, IL 62946 (618) 252-3838 Reed Funeral Chapel 503 East Sloan Street, Harrisburg, IL 62946 (618) 252-1711 Weirauch J M Funeral Home PC 211 North Jackson Street, Harrisburg, IL 62946 (618) 253-7136 Hope this is helpful. I don't know how old their records are. If someone finds out that one or more have records back to the 1800's that's great! Let us know. Georgetta (Scott) Crawley ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

An excellent discussion on Illinois land locations is found at http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/data_lan.html#location Mike Smith - AZ -----Original Message----- From: HELTSLEY@aol.com [mailto:HELTSLEY@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 9:24 PM To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: land coordinates Hey Trev, How do the metes and bounds work in Illinois, statewide, countywide, etc. Where is the base meridian where range and township measures start from? For instance, in Arizona, where I live, the base is at Basline Road near I-10 in Phoenix and everything in the state measures east-west, north-south from there. I remember in Saline County in the 1950s they used to have package liquor stores in some strange locations. One I recall was out in the sticks between Galatia and Thompsonville as I recall. I was told then that it was because they were in a different township and that sometimes liquor was voted in by township rather than by county and city. If you've lived around Eldorado a long time I, or my brothers, Jake and Don, would probably know you. Thanks, Ernie Heltsley/ex-Eldoradoan ______________________________

----- Original Message ----- From: Betty Sink <elvis5@midwest.net> To: <ILFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:20 PM Subject: MARSHALL > Amanda E. MARSHALL 7-30-1859 5-10-1902 married Samuel MOSS on 10-6-1881 > Amanda was the daughter of William Right Marshall and Artimessia KIRK > MARSHALL > > CHILDREN: > > Minnie J. MOSS 12-5-1882 > > Minnie married James H. HUBBARD on 5-31-1903. they livedin Carterville, Il > and later to Harrisburg, Il. He followed coal minning. In 1926 she moved > to Pontiac, Michigan and worked for Chase Dept Store for several years. She > also did practical nursing for a few years. She later married a man named > Brannam (who was from the Harrisburg, Il area) > > Her children are; > > 1. Wesley HUBBARD 2-23-1907 and he married on 12-19-1931 to Bertha > Whitelock (Whitlock ?). they attended the same High School in Harrisburg, > Il. and met again in Michigan and they had three sons James H. HUBBARD > 10-28-1933, Gearld L. HUBBARD 4-1-1935 and David 6-4-1943 > > 2. Maye HUBBARD born 10-3-1910 and she married Daniel ODNEAL on 9-19-1936. > they had met in Pontiac Michigan, where he worked for Fisher-body and he was > from Missouri. Daniel died 11-23-1955 and they had one son Daniel Jr. > 2-2-1944. > > 3. William L. MOSS died at the age of 3 months on 10-19-1884 and is buried > at the Williams Cemetery > > 4, Alva MOSS died at the age of nine months on 9-4-1887 and is buried at > the Williams Cemetery > > 5. Archie L. MOSS 6-2-1889 and he married Ida MOYER and they spent most > of their married life in Harrisburg, Il. they had one son Samuel Laney > MOSS who was born on 9-25-1910 and died on 10-20-1911 and was buried at the > Williams Cemetery. In 1956 Archie lived in Wright City, Ok. > > WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS FAMILY > > >

Hi... I am new to this site. I am looking for BRANAM AND HUBBARD in the Harrisburg area.... elvis5@Midwest.net

If you want information on where a plot of land is located in Illinois based on the legal description, go to: www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/data_lan.html I believe you will find this site well worth visiting. I know it sure helped me to find the parcels of land my ancestors bought and sold in Illinois. Del Perry KD6ZUW Portola, California perry@psln.com

Surnames: WILLIS VAUGHN Submitter: Linda Hunt (lhunt@icehouse.net) Date: 15 Nov 2000 Iam searching for the families WILLIS,VAUGHN. James Monroe Willis b 1 Jan 1842 Eldorado,Saline,Illinois.Wife Elizabeth Vaughn b.24 Nov 1846 Eldorado,Saline IL.6 of their children born Saline County.Mary 1865,Martha 1870,Nancy 1872,Margaret 1874 Leona 1876 Nellie 1880, Alice b Mo. 1882, James C Mo 1885, Raymond 1890 ?. lhunt@icehouse.net

There was a Cottage Grove Township in Saline County, IL. From what I understand, not much left there now. Jan

The Saline Co., IL map at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsaline/ shows Cottage Grove Township. Sam in KY In a message dated 11/14/00 8:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, maurya@open.org writes: > Subj: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Cottage Grove-Saline Co > Date: 11/14/00 8:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: maurya@open.org (Mary A. Unger) > <Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com"><ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > Are you sure it is Illinois? The only Cottage Grove I have heard of is in >

Hey Trev, How do the metes and bounds work in Illinois, statewide, countywide, etc. Where is the base meridian where range and township measures start from? For instance, in Arizona, where I live, the base is at Basline Road near I-10 in Phoenix and everything in the state measures east-west, north-south from there. I remember in Saline County in the 1950s they used to have package liquor stores in some strange locations. One I recall was out in the sticks between Galatia and Thompsonville as I recall. I was told then that it was because they were in a different township and that sometimes liquor was voted in by township rather than by county and city. If you've lived around Eldorado a long time I, or my brothers, Jake and Don, would probably know you. Thanks, Ernie Heltsley/ex-Eldoradoan

----- Original Message ----- From: <SSpunk@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 14 November, 2000 7:30 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: land coordinates Can someone tell me where this is ? S26 T09 R06 QNE, W 1/2 NW 1/4 SE 1/4 W1/2 NE 1/4 I think it might be more then one parcel ---------------------- Steve, Looks to be 3 pieces of land, totaling 360 acres, All in section 26, of T9S R6E (Township 9 South, Range 6 East).... If this is in the right order? Then it would be... 1. The west half, of the north west quarter, of sec. 26 (and a total of 80 acres). 2. The south east quarter, of section 26 (a total of 160 acres). 3. The west half, of the north east quarter, of sec. 26 (a total of 80 acres). This section 26 would be (start) about a mile south east of Harrisburg.... Best Regards, Trev

Are you sure it is Illinois? The only Cottage Grove I have heard of is in Oregon! -----Original Message----- From: REGGEE248@aol.com <REGGEE248@aol.com> To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, November 13, 2000 2:51 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Cottage Grove-Saline Co >Does anyone on this list know where Cottage Grove is? I have a note from a >relative stating that a brother of my grandmother was buried in Cottage >Grove, Saline Co, IL. When I looked at an IL map, I could not find it. >Anyone have any ideas? Is it a town, or just a cemetary? >Thanks, >Regina > >

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Can someone tell me where this is ? S26 T09 R06 QNE, W 1/2 NW 1/4 SE 1/4 W1/2 NE 1/4 I think it might be more then one parcel Thanks steve sspunk@aol.com

Sorry, forgot to add: Nancy Hamilton's mother was Elizabeth Gwin d. 1824 Carroll co. TN and father was Thomas Hamilton b. 12-245-1762 and d. 2-14-1841 in Saline co., IL. Nancy b. abt. 1811 in TN and d. 8-3-1851 in Saline Co. IL. Hamilton ancestor fought in Revolutionary War and there is a monument to him in Harrisburg, IL. Renee

Right, Nancy Hamilton (my 3rd ggrandmother) married John Pankey. Maybe the same one unless there are two Nancy Hamilton's in Saline Co.

Thanks Jon...... yes, and some also spelled it Chastine (probly difference in enumerator's:-).... didn't know there were some in Williamson. Not my line, but ties into a Carter line, who was a 3rd husband of my 3rd great from the Ham/Franklin area... Best Regards, Trev ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Musgrave <jmusgrave@onecliq.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 13 November, 2000 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: Chastain There are some Shasteens in Williamson County today. Jon Musgrave

Robert, Nancy HAMILTON was the daughter of Thomas HAMILTON, who was born 1762 NJ. Thomas married Elizabeth GWIN. Thomas served in the Revolutionary War in the NC Line. Thomas and Elizabeth HAMILTON lived in Sumner Co., TN for a number of years. Thomas HAMILTON moved to Gallatin Co., IL in 1836 to be near his sons, Thomas, Jr., Jacob, and Frederick. His daughter Nancy married John Hampton PANKEY. There is a second Nancy PANKEY. Our Nancy was born around 1803 in Sumner Co., TN and moved to Gallatin by the year 1823. Her brother, Thomas, Jr., had a son by the name of John HAMILTON, who had a sister Margaret. There is a Thomas HAMILTON who married Susanna MICK in 1836 who was a minister. He traveled from Gallatin Co., to Williamson where he preached and married several people. Not sure if he is related to our Thomas HAMILTON, father of John HAMILTON. There was another John HAMILTON who lived in Gallatin in 1818. He married a woman by the name of Dicey Reed, or Rice. Not sure which name. Dicey had other children. This John may have been a minister and could have been the father of Rev. Thomas HAMILTON. Later on down the road, there was a Rev. Robert T. HAMILTON who I believe to be the son of a Milton HAMILTON from the Saline Co., area. When I get exact dates, I'll let you know. Sincerely, Myrta Elizabeth

Dear Robert, My sincere gratitude for your time in preparing (typing... mine is getting rusty by the day:-) this for moi. I have a couple questions/hypothesis, of which I shall insert in the history below. BTW... do you have any idea how the Middle Fork Church, came by the name "Old Ruff"??..... ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert L Webb <bwebb9@juno.com> To: <thward@cafes.net> Sent: Wednesday, 08 November, 2000 8:22 AM Subject: Middle Fork "Old Ruff" Church Hi, Trev! Here is some info on the Old Ruff Church: MIDDLE FORK OF SALINE RIVER Middle Fork of Saline River Church was organized on July 1, 1826, by Elders Wilson Henderson and Charles Lee. The charter members, who were dismissed for that purpose from Bankston's Fork Church, were John Hall, Matthew Hall, Henry Hall, William Hall, Stephen Caldwell, Elizabeth Rogers, Sinthy Hall, Polly Caldwell, Prudence Hall, Rhoda Abney, Elizabeth Jones, Elizabeth Hampton, and Sally Williams. -------------------- (insert) I see that from the 5 county history, Wilson Henderson, in 1837 was organizing Raleigh Church, a new organization that grew out of a division of the Old Bethel Creek church regarding foreign missions (Bethel had two party's, mission and anti-mission).... Okay- those listed above were said to be dismissed from Bankston's. Is there a list of these same members noted in Bankston's membership before this 1826 date? Also, I'm trying to recall where Bankston was located? I remember seeing this name on an old map but can not remember.... ohh... I think I just found my own answer. According to the 5 Co hist., it was located about 6 miles west of Harrisburg..... but, this says it was organized in July 1854. The above refers to Bankston before 1826?? Says here it was first a member of the Franklin Ass., and then joined the Big Saline.... help!! and Josiah Williams was the first pastor... ------------------------- Some of the pastors of this church included Elders Wilson Henderson (1826), Charles Lee (April 1834), William Gholson (October 1834), Joseph Tucker (November 1835), William Thomas, Achilles Coffey, J. T. F. Lewis (1849), Thomas Spain (September 1852), Thomas Coffey, John Gibson, C. M. Weaver, C. C. Mitchell, L. P. Harriss, W. E. Weaver, and A. H. West. ------------------- (insert) The pastor above, J. T. F. Lewis. I believe this to be 44 year old Jeremiah Lewis born TN in the Hamilton Co 1850 census (from looking at his neighbors, looks to be southern Ham Co.).... This brings me to my original query, Elizabeth (Carner?) Jones, my ggg. Her son, and my gg, William Jones, married his first wife Rebecca McFarland, 2 Oct 1850 in Saline by J. T. F. Lewis.... this would be right on target with the pastorial date you have of 1849. Now I know I have to have a copy of the full membership that you mentioned. William Jones 2nd wife, Mary Caroline (Mace) Sullivan, is my grandmother. She married William 40 years later, after Rebecca died. These are who I descend from, and this Mace family has been our biggest brick wall. Mary Mace was the d/o Thomas J. Mace & Nancy Keaton (another wall). Thomas Mace had a brother George Mace (who married Mahulda Oglesby). They all lived in the Tate Twp & Long Branch Twp. area.... My MACE/MASE line (Thomas) is missing by the 1870 & 1880 Saline (and nothing in Ham Co) census. Can you please find a church membership, or dismissal date from a church in NW Saline or SW Ham Co's ----------------------------- Middle Fork Church united with the Muddy River Association in 1826, and was dismissed to go into the organization of the Bethel Association in 1829. When the division came in the Bethel Association, in 1900, this church went with the Absoluter faction. The church dissolved in 1932. ----------------------------- (insert) So they united with Muddy within months of actually starting their church. This says here the division came in 1900.... isn't this the same division I spoke of above, around 1837??..... The Old Ruff went with the Absoluter faction, correct? Can you elaborate on Absoluter please.... ------------------------------ In November 1840 Middle Fork Church agreed to build a new meeting house near the old one. These first two buildings were probably both log structures. In August 1846, and again in August 1858, the church appointed three trustees to obtain a deed for the church property. In September 1866, the church agreed to hold their winter meetings at the Hall Town school house. In March 1869, the church agreed to sell their meeting house. In October 1870 the church appointed trustees to procure a deed for land on which to build a new building, at Hall Town, which was done. The next month a building committee was appointed to superintend the construction. This building was used by the church until it dissolved, and it stood for many years afterwards, until it was finally torn down. ------------------------------ (insert) Okay- on a visit to the Old Ruff Cemetery, I was told that the church was ounce in the near vicinity of the cemetery. If I am correct, this cemetery is at least a mile or so, SW of Hall Town.... I wonder if it was one of the log structures that would have been near Old Ruff cem. Which brings me to my next question, which one of those in the paragragh above do you have a pic of, the last one? I am interested also to know in the staement above... "In August 1846, and again in August 1858, the church appointed three trustees to obtain a deed for the church property" I am wondering what piece of land they were trying to aquire.... the land where Old Ruff cem is located, or land in Hall Town.... And finally..... they built a church in Hall Town. I did not know there was a church there. Was it called Old Ruff?? The nearest church I see to Hall Town is Pleasant Valley? Thank you Robert (or anyone) for indulging in my questions.... Best Regards, Trev

I have a lineage of Pankey's. John Pankey b. Nov. 19, 1804 in Gallatin, Sumner, TN m. Nancy Hamilton July 20, 1823 d. May 31, 1881 Harrisburg, Saline Cty, IL. He was son of Hampton Pankey and grandson of John Pankey b. circa 1741 in Town, VA m. Betty Powell Oct. 8, 1766 in Halifax Co., VA and d. April 1804 in Sumner Co. TN. Hope this helps you. Renee

Yes, this is the one I was hoping to learn about. Would also like to know about John Hamilton who died in (I think) the year 1838. I have a record of a Nancy Hamilton who died in 1852, but it may be a different one than the one who married John Pankey? Robert On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:20:50 EST Kkrrd@aol.com writes: > I have a lineage of Pankey's. John Pankey b. Nov. 19, 1804 in > Gallatin, > Sumner, TN m. Nancy Hamilton July 20, 1823 d. May 31, 1881 > Harrisburg, > Saline Cty, IL. He was son of Hampton Pankey and grandson of John > Pankey b. > circa 1741 in Town, VA m. Betty Powell Oct. 8, 1766 in Halifax Co., > VA and > d. April 1804 in Sumner Co. TN. Hope this helps you. > Renee > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.