I must have deleted the message asking about a John V. Tate. I find a John V. Tate, age 2, on the 1850 Saline County Mortality Schedule. He was born in IL and died in March 1850, of Fever, after being ill for 90 days. Faith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman L. Gidcumb" <ngidcumb@bearlake-net.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 18:17 Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] John Tate > I have a Frank Tate, wife Florence Mobley (b. 1870) > > 1920 Census-US, Illinois, White Co., Carmi; Microfilm roll number 1820413 > Jan 28, 1920; Enumeration district number 169, sheet 8a, line 32. Dwelling > #144 > > Tate, Raymond M W 27 IL IL IL > Florence F W 50 IL IL IL > Genia F W 24 IL IL IL > > Norm > >

I am planning a trip to the galatia, harrisburg, eldorado area early next spring. I need a local researcher who can help me identify my g-grandfathers property. locate it and give me good directions to it. I have already done some of the leg work but am running out of time. I also need some one who can help me do the same around dixon kentuky. please reply directly to kim...goldwelt@juno.com thanks ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Researching: Wilson FEAZEL b 1854 m. Missouri Margaret PRICE 18 July 1874 Saline Co. David FEAZEL b ca 1855 m. Nancy Jane PRICE 12 Aug 1878 Gallatin Co Noah FEAZEL b ca 1861 m. Nancy PRICE 17 Aug 1884 Gallatin Co Thomas FEAZEL b ca 1866 m. Elizabeth 'Eliza' Jane PRICE 8 Dec 1886 Saline Co. All FEAZEL husbands are brothers, sons of Phillip FEAZEL and Margaret STUNTSON[?] Missouri, Nancy Jane and Eliza PRICE are all daughters of David PRICE and Eliza SUMMERS. Nancy PRICE is the daughter of James PRICE and Rebecca SUMMERS or STUNSON. Also: William FEAZEL b unknown m. Louisa SUMMERS 1 July 1847 Gallatin Co.

Connie in CA I would appreciate the info. on the Barter's that you have. Thanks Joe Barter

Sorry Ron, can't help you there. Norm

I have a Frank Tate, wife Florence Mobley (b. 1870) 1920 Census-US, Illinois, White Co., Carmi; Microfilm roll number 1820413 Jan 28, 1920; Enumeration district number 169, sheet 8a, line 32. Dwelling #144 Tate, Raymond M W 27 IL IL IL Florence F W 50 IL IL IL Genia F W 24 IL IL IL Norm

Norm: Do you happen to know who may have a 1910 White Co. census. I'm looking for Thomas P. Moore and family. Thanks a bunch.... Thank You Ronnie Moore runt@rectec.net surnames: Moore,Maple,Clayton,Howard.Hays Stone,,Veal,Neil,Mitchell,Davis,Kirk,Bramlet Clutts, Samons ICQ 9642318 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman L. Gidcumb" <ngidcumb@bearlake-net.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] John Tate > I have a Frank Tate, wife Florence Mobley (b. 1870) > > 1920 Census-US, Illinois, White Co., Carmi; Microfilm roll number 1820413 > Jan 28, 1920; Enumeration district number 169, sheet 8a, line 32. Dwelling > #144 > > Tate, Raymond M W 27 IL IL IL > Florence F W 50 IL IL IL > Genia F W 24 IL IL IL > > Norm

Jean, Don't have a John Tate, but do have 2 Dora Tates. One was b 1870 , d. 1948 m. James W. Elder - had 2 children that I've documented. Dora Tate b. 1883 married a Duckworth. Both of them are in my files because they married in to my Davis line. I have some additional information if this is of any interest to you. Donna Barnes

Hi Trev, Sorry to butt in on an IL message, but do you by any chance have ant more info on the parents of your George MACE? I'm wondering who James' parents are and where James was from.. My Mace line came from Sheridan IN, Jesse Mace, whom I am trying to determine if he is the brother of John and James Mace who were also in Sheridan. This particular John and James married sisters, whose last names escape me now but definately not Ritchy (I also have Richie/Ritchie from NJ/PA). Let me know please and also if you are in contact with any other Mace descendants. I am in contact with a total of 3 others who descend from John and James who passed through Sheridan IN. thnx, melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: Trev <thward@cafes.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:58 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] KARNES > Can you Karnes researchers give me any additional info on the following family. > The MACE is my connection. I never could verify who Lafayette was a child of.... > > Descendants of Lafayette Karnes > > 1 Lafayette KARNES > .. +Julia ENDICOTT > ........... 2 Emma KARNES b: 07 Apr, 1906 in IL d: 07 Sep, 1952 in IL Burial: > Tate Chapel, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL > ............... +George MACE b: 15 Mar, 1889 in Hamilton/Saline Co., IL d: 15 > Dec, 1941 in Uknown Burial: Tate's Chaple, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL Father: > James Robert MACE Mother: Laura Lucretia RITCHY > ......................... 3 Lois I. MACE b: (omit) in IL Burial: Tate > Chapel, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL > ............................. +Lowell Gray JONES b: 12 Mar, 1929 in Dyer Co., > TN d: 08 Mar, 1974 in TN Burial: Tate's Chapel, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL > Father: Jessie JONES Mother: Nettie May GILLILAND > ......................................

Can you Karnes researchers give me any additional info on the following family. The MACE is my connection. I never could verify who Lafayette was a child of.... Descendants of Lafayette Karnes 1 Lafayette KARNES .. +Julia ENDICOTT ........... 2 Emma KARNES b: 07 Apr, 1906 in IL d: 07 Sep, 1952 in IL Burial: Tate Chapel, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL ............... +George MACE b: 15 Mar, 1889 in Hamilton/Saline Co., IL d: 15 Dec, 1941 in Uknown Burial: Tate's Chaple, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL Father: James Robert MACE Mother: Laura Lucretia RITCHY ......................... 3 Lois I. MACE b: (omit) in IL Burial: Tate Chapel, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL ............................. +Lowell Gray JONES b: 12 Mar, 1929 in Dyer Co., TN d: 08 Mar, 1974 in TN Burial: Tate's Chapel, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL Father: Jessie JONES Mother: Nettie May GILLILAND ...................................... 4 Lowell Wayne JONES ...................................... 4 Darlene JONES ...................................... 4 Lisa JONES ...................................... 4 Donna JONES ........... 2 Ethel KARNES ............... +Unknown MCCAY ........... 2 Charlie KARNES Best Regards, Trev

Hi Charlie, Where did you obtain your info that Elizabeth was dau of Jacob. Have you seen copy of marriage license or anything? I just looked on 1850 IL cen where it shows her born in VA. I show all the rest of Jacob's children (including my connection, Ellenor) as born in TN and IL. There is an opening for her after Ellenor, but this would put her between two TN births. There is a sister to Jacob named Elizabeth, that would have probably been born in VA, but that would make her too old to be the one on 1850, I think, but maybe not if she is a change of life baby. George, Jacob's father, is reported to have died in 1816, or at least his will was dated then. Possible he recovered. I was glad to see a wife for Jacob listed, as I don't show who his wife is. I don't know if they were in KY any or not. I am interested in finding marriage date/license for Eleanor/Ellenor and William Tate. Any ideas? If the info you have and I have is correct, this would make your Elizabeth a sister to my Eleanor (my gggrandmother) Faith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie" <andersonc001@hawaii.rr.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 14:55 Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > I have been researching the families of Albert Alvis and William G. > Anderson. One can clearly see they moved from Orange County N.C. to Warren > Co. KY. in the early 1800s and then moved to Saline Co. IL. What has always > been a puzzle that I can't excplain is Albert Alvis had a brother, John Paul > Anderson who married Elizabeth Karnes 6/30/1833 in No. Gallatin, Il. Her > parents were Jacob Karnes and Amelia Williamson. They had ten children: > Milly [m. King Holiday],Martha [m. Alexander Braden], Sarah [m. Polk > Dillingham], William Voltaire, Mahala [m. Ruffus Mitchell], John Runner , > Cimantha Rachel, Stepe Douglas [m. Nancy Parks],Melissa Ellen [m. GW > Jewell], and Polly [m...Stricklin]. The brother John Paul was born in N. > Galatia, IL UK 3//9/1811 and eventually decided in Saline Co in 1889. The > puzzle is all his brothers and sisters born before and after him were born > in either in Orange Co. NC or Warren Co. KY. Can anyone confirm I have a > good birth date and place which means my family would have moved to Warren > Co. KY [gone to or moved to Galatia, had a child , returned to KY and latter > returned to Saline Co. IL. Confused. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deanna's Email" <tobi@onlinemac.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > Faith, YES.. this is the Karnes family I am researching. I have > information > > on All of the Children of John and Grace Karnes, I dont know what happened > > to them, or where they came from. Where they died.. etc. I do have a book, > > on the Hallada Cemetery in Saline Co. Ill., It lists the Tate family. > > It would be great to find more info!! > > Deanna > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Faith Hogue" <fhogue@sheltonbbs.com> > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 1:42 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > > > > Hi Deanna, > > > I too am researching the Karnes family of Saline. > > > Do you have any further info on your John, bd, etc. > > > My Karnes came from TN to IL. Eleanor, dau of Jacob was married to my > > > gggrandfather, William Tate. Faith > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Deanna's Email" <tobi@onlinemac.com> > > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 23:46 > > > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > > > > > > > I am looking for Karnes, John- Holiday/Hallada Grace, > > > > from Saline Co. Ill. I can't find anything at all on the Karnes > > > family! > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <Crlbbates@aol.com> > > > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:39 AM > > > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Joe Barter: > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I am originally from Harrisburg, IL, Saline County. I have > > > books that > > > > I > > > > > can look up Barters for you. From the Gaskins Funeral Home, > > > Saline Co., > > > > ILL > > > > > which is located in Harrisburg I find the following Barter names: > > > > > Eliza, Enie, Geo., Harry B., James, John E., Mabel, Mary, > > > Nola, R.E., > > > > > Sam, Sarah J. > > > > > > > > > > >From the Turner Funeral Home, Harrisburg, ILLinois Records > > > 1936-1966 > > > > > Guest, Martha who married A.L. Guest whose Father is Henry > > > Barter b. > > > > Eng. > > > > > > > > > > >From Court Administrator's Records Books B--F > > > > > Barter, John B., Date of death: 22 March 1885 > > > > > Samuel Barter, administrator; Eliza J. his widow and Mary B., > > > Emaline, > > > > > Bee, Maud and Henry his children. > > > > > > > > > > If you need any info on the above names, I will be glad to help. > > > > > PS. Harrisburg has a wonderful Genealogy Society. Was there in > > > Aug. for > > > > > research. > > > > > Connie in CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Excuse me for jumping in here, but I'm trying to find out some more information and to get some documentation on my family of the Tate's. My ggggrandfather was John Ventile Tate. Can anyone help me? Thanks so much Jean Tate Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deanna's Email" <tobi@onlinemac.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > Faith, YES.. this is the Karnes family I am researching. I have information > on All of the Children of John and Grace Karnes, I dont know what happened > to them, or where they came from. Where they died.. etc. I do have a book, > on the Hallada Cemetery in Saline Co. Ill., It lists the Tate family. > It would be great to find more info!! > Deanna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Faith Hogue" <fhogue@sheltonbbs.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 1:42 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > Hi Deanna, > > I too am researching the Karnes family of Saline. > > Do you have any further info on your John, bd, etc. > > My Karnes came from TN to IL. Eleanor, dau of Jacob was married to my > > gggrandfather, William Tate. Faith > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Deanna's Email" <tobi@onlinemac.com> > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 23:46 > > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > > > > I am looking for Karnes, John- Holiday/Hallada Grace, > > > from Saline Co. Ill. I can't find anything at all on the Karnes > > family! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Crlbbates@aol.com> > > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:39 AM > > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > > > > > > > To Joe Barter: > > > > > > > > Hi. I am originally from Harrisburg, IL, Saline County. I have > > books that > > > I > > > > can look up Barters for you. From the Gaskins Funeral Home, > > Saline Co., > > > ILL > > > > which is located in Harrisburg I find the following Barter names: > > > > Eliza, Enie, Geo., Harry B., James, John E., Mabel, Mary, > > Nola, R.E., > > > > Sam, Sarah J. > > > > > > > > >From the Turner Funeral Home, Harrisburg, ILLinois Records > > 1936-1966 > > > > Guest, Martha who married A.L. Guest whose Father is Henry > > Barter b. > > > Eng. > > > > > > > > >From Court Administrator's Records Books B--F > > > > Barter, John B., Date of death: 22 March 1885 > > > > Samuel Barter, administrator; Eliza J. his widow and Mary B., > > Emaline, > > > > Bee, Maud and Henry his children. > > > > > > > > If you need any info on the above names, I will be glad to help. > > > > PS. Harrisburg has a wonderful Genealogy Society. Was there in > > Aug. for > > > > research. > > > > Connie in CA > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I have a smidge of info on a John L. Karnes (don't know if its the same one). B. 11/24/1854, d. 11/17/1937. He married (probably at least a 2nd marraige for him; it was her 2nd marriage) Tennessee Catherine Davis Mugge about 1917. They did not have any children - both too old. I have her b and d, if you're intereted. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: Deanna's Email <tobi@onlinemac.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > I am looking for Karnes, John- Holiday/Hallada Grace, > from Saline Co. Ill. I can't find anything at all on the Karnes family! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Crlbbates@aol.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:39 AM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > To Joe Barter: > > > > Hi. I am originally from Harrisburg, IL, Saline County. I have books that > I > > can look up Barters for you. From the Gaskins Funeral Home, Saline Co., > ILL > > which is located in Harrisburg I find the following Barter names: > > Eliza, Enie, Geo., Harry B., James, John E., Mabel, Mary, Nola, R.E., > > Sam, Sarah J. > > > > >From the Turner Funeral Home, Harrisburg, ILLinois Records 1936-1966 > > Guest, Martha who married A.L. Guest whose Father is Henry Barter b. > Eng. > > > > >From Court Administrator's Records Books B--F > > Barter, John B., Date of death: 22 March 1885 > > Samuel Barter, administrator; Eliza J. his widow and Mary B., Emaline, > > Bee, Maud and Henry his children. > > > > If you need any info on the above names, I will be glad to help. > > PS. Harrisburg has a wonderful Genealogy Society. Was there in Aug. for > > research. > > Connie in CA > > >

Faith, YES.. this is the Karnes family I am researching. I have information on All of the Children of John and Grace Karnes, I dont know what happened to them, or where they came from. Where they died.. etc. I do have a book, on the Hallada Cemetery in Saline Co. Ill., It lists the Tate family. It would be great to find more info!! Deanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faith Hogue" <fhogue@sheltonbbs.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > Hi Deanna, > I too am researching the Karnes family of Saline. > Do you have any further info on your John, bd, etc. > My Karnes came from TN to IL. Eleanor, dau of Jacob was married to my > gggrandfather, William Tate. Faith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deanna's Email" <tobi@onlinemac.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 23:46 > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > I am looking for Karnes, John- Holiday/Hallada Grace, > > from Saline Co. Ill. I can't find anything at all on the Karnes > family! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Crlbbates@aol.com> > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:39 AM > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > > > > To Joe Barter: > > > > > > Hi. I am originally from Harrisburg, IL, Saline County. I have > books that > > I > > > can look up Barters for you. From the Gaskins Funeral Home, > Saline Co., > > ILL > > > which is located in Harrisburg I find the following Barter names: > > > Eliza, Enie, Geo., Harry B., James, John E., Mabel, Mary, > Nola, R.E., > > > Sam, Sarah J. > > > > > > >From the Turner Funeral Home, Harrisburg, ILLinois Records > 1936-1966 > > > Guest, Martha who married A.L. Guest whose Father is Henry > Barter b. > > Eng. > > > > > > >From Court Administrator's Records Books B--F > > > Barter, John B., Date of death: 22 March 1885 > > > Samuel Barter, administrator; Eliza J. his widow and Mary B., > Emaline, > > > Bee, Maud and Henry his children. > > > > > > If you need any info on the above names, I will be glad to help. > > > PS. Harrisburg has a wonderful Genealogy Society. Was there in > Aug. for > > > research. > > > Connie in CA > > > > > > > >

I have been researching the families of Albert Alvis and William G. Anderson. One can clearly see they moved from Orange County N.C. to Warren Co. KY. in the early 1800s and then moved to Saline Co. IL. What has always been a puzzle that I can't excplain is Albert Alvis had a brother, John Paul Anderson who married Elizabeth Karnes 6/30/1833 in No. Gallatin, Il. Her parents were Jacob Karnes and Amelia Williamson. They had ten children: Milly [m. King Holiday],Martha [m. Alexander Braden], Sarah [m. Polk Dillingham], William Voltaire, Mahala [m. Ruffus Mitchell], John Runner , Cimantha Rachel, Stepe Douglas [m. Nancy Parks],Melissa Ellen [m. GW Jewell], and Polly [m...Stricklin]. The brother John Paul was born in N. Galatia, IL UK 3//9/1811 and eventually decided in Saline Co in 1889. The puzzle is all his brothers and sisters born before and after him were born in either in Orange Co. NC or Warren Co. KY. Can anyone confirm I have a good birth date and place which means my family would have moved to Warren Co. KY [gone to or moved to Galatia, had a child , returned to KY and latter returned to Saline Co. IL. Confused. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deanna's Email" <tobi@onlinemac.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > Faith, YES.. this is the Karnes family I am researching. I have information > on All of the Children of John and Grace Karnes, I dont know what happened > to them, or where they came from. Where they died.. etc. I do have a book, > on the Hallada Cemetery in Saline Co. Ill., It lists the Tate family. > It would be great to find more info!! > Deanna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Faith Hogue" <fhogue@sheltonbbs.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 1:42 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > Hi Deanna, > > I too am researching the Karnes family of Saline. > > Do you have any further info on your John, bd, etc. > > My Karnes came from TN to IL. Eleanor, dau of Jacob was married to my > > gggrandfather, William Tate. Faith > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Deanna's Email" <tobi@onlinemac.com> > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 23:46 > > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > > > > I am looking for Karnes, John- Holiday/Hallada Grace, > > > from Saline Co. Ill. I can't find anything at all on the Karnes > > family! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Crlbbates@aol.com> > > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:39 AM > > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > > > > > > > To Joe Barter: > > > > > > > > Hi. I am originally from Harrisburg, IL, Saline County. I have > > books that > > > I > > > > can look up Barters for you. From the Gaskins Funeral Home, > > Saline Co., > > > ILL > > > > which is located in Harrisburg I find the following Barter names: > > > > Eliza, Enie, Geo., Harry B., James, John E., Mabel, Mary, > > Nola, R.E., > > > > Sam, Sarah J. > > > > > > > > >From the Turner Funeral Home, Harrisburg, ILLinois Records > > 1936-1966 > > > > Guest, Martha who married A.L. Guest whose Father is Henry > > Barter b. > > > Eng. > > > > > > > > >From Court Administrator's Records Books B--F > > > > Barter, John B., Date of death: 22 March 1885 > > > > Samuel Barter, administrator; Eliza J. his widow and Mary B., > > Emaline, > > > > Bee, Maud and Henry his children. > > > > > > > > If you need any info on the above names, I will be glad to help. > > > > PS. Harrisburg has a wonderful Genealogy Society. Was there in > > Aug. for > > > > research. > > > > Connie in CA > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Faith, I just answered Deanna's inquiry before I saw yours. I believe there's more info. around. My great-great-great-grandfather, William Morris, brought his family to Eldorado in about 1840. My mother, Rebecca Morris, I'm almost certain had relatives there named Karnes. Perhaps it was Grace Morris Thompson who may have married a Karnes. My mother mentioned Karnes occasionally. She was a friend of Grace Karnes. Ernie Heltsley/ex-Eldoradoan

Hi, Doubt if this will be much help but I always thought my mother, Rebecca Morris Heltsley, who grew up in Eldorado, was related to Karnes family members there, probably cousins. I thought it was Grace Karnes, perhaps she was married to a Karnes. Her name later when I interviewed her a few years before she died was Grace Morris Thompson. It was the first such interview I had done and I fear I didn't get as much as I could have. Mother's mother was Nannie Bradshaw, who was married to Thomas D. Morris. Another name that may come up in your research is William Sebron Bradshaw. Good luck. Let me know if these help or I may be of further help. Ernie Heltsley, ex-Eldoradoan searching for Morris in the Saline Co. area from 1840 on and Heltsleys in Western Kentucky.

Hi Deanna, I too am researching the Karnes family of Saline. Do you have any further info on your John, bd, etc. My Karnes came from TN to IL. Eleanor, dau of Jacob was married to my gggrandfather, William Tate. Faith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deanna's Email" <tobi@onlinemac.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 23:46 Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > I am looking for Karnes, John- Holiday/Hallada Grace, > from Saline Co. Ill. I can't find anything at all on the Karnes family! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Crlbbates@aol.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:39 AM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > > > > To Joe Barter: > > > > Hi. I am originally from Harrisburg, IL, Saline County. I have books that > I > > can look up Barters for you. From the Gaskins Funeral Home, Saline Co., > ILL > > which is located in Harrisburg I find the following Barter names: > > Eliza, Enie, Geo., Harry B., James, John E., Mabel, Mary, Nola, R.E., > > Sam, Sarah J. > > > > >From the Turner Funeral Home, Harrisburg, ILLinois Records 1936-1966 > > Guest, Martha who married A.L. Guest whose Father is Henry Barter b. > Eng. > > > > >From Court Administrator's Records Books B--F > > Barter, John B., Date of death: 22 March 1885 > > Samuel Barter, administrator; Eliza J. his widow and Mary B., Emaline, > > Bee, Maud and Henry his children. > > > > If you need any info on the above names, I will be glad to help. > > PS. Harrisburg has a wonderful Genealogy Society. Was there in Aug. for > > research. > > Connie in CA > > > >

I am looking for Karnes, John- Holiday/Hallada Grace, from Saline Co. Ill. I can't find anything at all on the Karnes family! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Crlbbates@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:39 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: ILSALINE-D Digest V00 #380 > To Joe Barter: > > Hi. I am originally from Harrisburg, IL, Saline County. I have books that I > can look up Barters for you. From the Gaskins Funeral Home, Saline Co., ILL > which is located in Harrisburg I find the following Barter names: > Eliza, Enie, Geo., Harry B., James, John E., Mabel, Mary, Nola, R.E., > Sam, Sarah J. > > >From the Turner Funeral Home, Harrisburg, ILLinois Records 1936-1966 > Guest, Martha who married A.L. Guest whose Father is Henry Barter b. Eng. > > >From Court Administrator's Records Books B--F > Barter, John B., Date of death: 22 March 1885 > Samuel Barter, administrator; Eliza J. his widow and Mary B., Emaline, > Bee, Maud and Henry his children. > > If you need any info on the above names, I will be glad to help. > PS. Harrisburg has a wonderful Genealogy Society. Was there in Aug. for > research. > Connie in CA >

In a message dated 12/2/00 12:40:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, Crlbbates@aol.com writes: > From the Turner Funeral Home, Harrisburg, ILLinois Records 1936-1966 > Guest, Martha who married A.L. Guest whose Father is Henry Barter b. > Eng. > > Connie. Do you have more information on this couple. My Grandfather was A.L. Guest (Abraham Lincoln Guest). Father was George Washington Guest. He had married Mary E.Anglin 1st ? Beal 2nd. Is this same Guest family. Joan sammjo99@aol.com