What I got from the state Archives was the roster sheet copy where they enlisted and were discharged. This gives name,age, where from, date of muster, where, etc. The discharge give where discharged and muster out date, etc. Thats all I got they are big sheets. You can order these online . Also if you know the reg. and company, you can go to rootsweb site by way of Illinois and get information on them. Also they have battle records of which each reg and company was in. Quite interesting. Jim At 08:52 PM 1/9/01 -0600, you wrote: >I want to thank everybody for helping me out here. As you can see, I am new >at this and I have never order any civil war records. But I am confuse here. >How come you have to order the form in Washington, DC in Archives and why >not in Illinois Archives?? Can you still get the same thing in Illinois >Archives? Will they have that? Especially if my gggreatgrandfather Douglas >Carter was from Illinois and it was in Illinois when he sign up. Look like >to me the civil war records and pension will be at Illinois Archives. Let me >know your thoughts on this, okay. Thank you for alway been so helpful here. >This is the best site to be on here in Saline's Lists. So much wisdom to >share with other. Teresa from Oklahoma > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Hal Ledbetter <ledbeter@livingston.net> >To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:47 AM >Subject: RE: [ILSALINE-L] Widow's pension in Civil War > > >> these forms can be ordered on line from >> http://www.nara.gov/research/ordering/ordrfrms.html. >> >> Hal Ledbetter >> Livingston TX >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: James R. Griffin Sr. [mailto:jrgsr@shawneelink.net] >> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:33 AM >> To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Widow's pension in Civil War >> >> >> >> You can get a form from the Old Military and Civil Records(NWCTB-Pension) >> Textual Archives Services Division, National Archives and Records >> Administration, 700 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20408-0001. Its >> Form 85 that you need. Fill this out and send in. When they find the >> information they will let you know and >> you can send payment then or do it with a credit card. I received the >> pension papers of my g grandfather and >> g uncle. There was a lot of information in there. Include as much >> information that you can on the form >> and that might make a big difference. Jim >> >> >> >> At 08:49 AM 1/7/01 -0600, you wrote: >> >Where can I check out for widow's pension in Civil War? Is there any url >> web site where I can check this out? I have found Douglas Carter in >> Illinois Civil War, Company E, the 29th Infantry Illinois Volunteers and >he >> died 1873 in Raleigh, IL. It was 4 years later before his wife had married >> again. So that make me wonder how she survived during the 4 years period >> and she must have been drawing widow's pension. How can I find information >> on that and to get copy of her pension? Any help is much appreciated. >> Teresa from Oklahoma >> > >> > >> >> >> > >

I want to thank everybody for helping me out here. As you can see, I am new at this and I have never order any civil war records. But I am confuse here. How come you have to order the form in Washington, DC in Archives and why not in Illinois Archives?? Can you still get the same thing in Illinois Archives? Will they have that? Especially if my gggreatgrandfather Douglas Carter was from Illinois and it was in Illinois when he sign up. Look like to me the civil war records and pension will be at Illinois Archives. Let me know your thoughts on this, okay. Thank you for alway been so helpful here. This is the best site to be on here in Saline's Lists. So much wisdom to share with other. Teresa from Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal Ledbetter <ledbeter@livingston.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [ILSALINE-L] Widow's pension in Civil War > these forms can be ordered on line from > http://www.nara.gov/research/ordering/ordrfrms.html. > > Hal Ledbetter > Livingston TX > > -----Original Message----- > From: James R. Griffin Sr. [mailto:jrgsr@shawneelink.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:33 AM > To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Widow's pension in Civil War > > > > You can get a form from the Old Military and Civil Records(NWCTB-Pension) > Textual Archives Services Division, National Archives and Records > Administration, 700 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20408-0001. Its > Form 85 that you need. Fill this out and send in. When they find the > information they will let you know and > you can send payment then or do it with a credit card. I received the > pension papers of my g grandfather and > g uncle. There was a lot of information in there. Include as much > information that you can on the form > and that might make a big difference. Jim > > > > At 08:49 AM 1/7/01 -0600, you wrote: > >Where can I check out for widow's pension in Civil War? Is there any url > web site where I can check this out? I have found Douglas Carter in > Illinois Civil War, Company E, the 29th Infantry Illinois Volunteers and he > died 1873 in Raleigh, IL. It was 4 years later before his wife had married > again. So that make me wonder how she survived during the 4 years period > and she must have been drawing widow's pension. How can I find information > on that and to get copy of her pension? Any help is much appreciated. > Teresa from Oklahoma > > > > > > >

Can anyone help me find information on my great grandfather, (or other relatives) Charles Absalom Smith born 9/17/1825 in Davidson Courty, Tenn. married Eliza Kittinger who was born 4/13/1835. Her mother was Sarah Kittinger. born near Equality near the old salt works. This information is from the family bible and relatives no longer living (my aunts) . Charles Absalom Smith was a medical doctor and died on October 23, 1881. Eliza died October 31, 1910 at age 75. They were both burried in the Smith Cemetary 12 miles from Galatia, IL. Eliza's mother, Sarah died and her father remarried. She had 3 half sisters: Hanna Kittinger Rhine, Mollie Kittinger Karnes, and Liddy Kittinger Piland. Charle's and Eliza's 1st child was Clarence Edgar Smith, born May 23, 1851 in Galatia, Saline Co. Clarence married PollyAnn Pemberton and they had 13 children, one of whom was my mother. I have not had much luck looking up new information, so I would really appreciate any help. Thanks!

these forms can be ordered on line from http://www.nara.gov/research/ordering/ordrfrms.html. Hal Ledbetter Livingston TX -----Original Message----- From: James R. Griffin Sr. [mailto:jrgsr@shawneelink.net] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:33 AM To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Widow's pension in Civil War You can get a form from the Old Military and Civil Records(NWCTB-Pension) Textual Archives Services Division, National Archives and Records Administration, 700 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20408-0001. Its Form 85 that you need. Fill this out and send in. When they find the information they will let you know and you can send payment then or do it with a credit card. I received the pension papers of my g grandfather and g uncle. There was a lot of information in there. Include as much information that you can on the form and that might make a big difference. Jim At 08:49 AM 1/7/01 -0600, you wrote: >Where can I check out for widow's pension in Civil War? Is there any url web site where I can check this out? I have found Douglas Carter in Illinois Civil War, Company E, the 29th Infantry Illinois Volunteers and he died 1873 in Raleigh, IL. It was 4 years later before his wife had married again. So that make me wonder how she survived during the 4 years period and she must have been drawing widow's pension. How can I find information on that and to get copy of her pension? Any help is much appreciated. Teresa from Oklahoma > >

Does anyone have acess to 1900 census for Saline Co. IL.? I am looking for COSBY (William Logan and John) and BAIN family with daughter Sarah or Sallie about 6 years of age. Also will trade information with anyone on these families. Shelley Winn

----- Original Message ----- From: ILGenWeb State Coordinator <richpump@wf.net> To: <jmusgrave@onecliq.net> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 10:47 PM Subject: Saline County Illinois Soliders in the Civil War > Jon would you like to contact this gentleman? Richard... > > -------- Original Message -------- > Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:37:23 -0600 > From: "donboy" <donboy@clas.net> > To: <illinois@usroots.com> > > I have published a book, Saline County Illinois Soliders in the Civil > War. I would be willing to look up data for anyone requesting it. Don > Boyd >

Please remove for now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James R. Griffin Sr." <jrgsr@shawneelink.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Widow's pension in Civil War > I too got this from Ancestry.com, but to get all the information about the > person, you need the National > Archives copies. That makes it complete. Jim > > > > At 05:28 PM 1/7/01 -0500, you wrote: > >The Ancestry.com Civil War Pension Index shows that there was a pension > >application filed in the name of Samuel A. CARTER (dependent child). Veteran > >was listed as Douglas CARTER who served in Co. E, 29 Ill. Inf. The date of > >application APPEARS to be May 21, 1906, application #849895, filed in > >Illinois. > > > > >

I too got this from Ancestry.com, but to get all the information about the person, you need the National Archives copies. That makes it complete. Jim At 05:28 PM 1/7/01 -0500, you wrote: >The Ancestry.com Civil War Pension Index shows that there was a pension >application filed in the name of Samuel A. CARTER (dependent child). Veteran >was listed as Douglas CARTER who served in Co. E, 29 Ill. Inf. The date of >application APPEARS to be May 21, 1906, application #849895, filed in >Illinois. > >

The Ancestry.com Civil War Pension Index shows that there was a pension application filed in the name of Samuel A. CARTER (dependent child). Veteran was listed as Douglas CARTER who served in Co. E, 29 Ill. Inf. The date of application APPEARS to be May 21, 1906, application #849895, filed in Illinois.

In a message dated 01/07/2001 11:30:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, rdnnash@clipper.net writes: << can find no one from anywhere with the first name Melas >> I put Melas into the alltheweb.com search engine and came up with quite a few hits. It seems to be a German name. I think I saw it somewhere before as well. Kathryne

Martha Mine were 1776 SC?/NC = Tn 1805 = Ky 1809 = Tenn 1811 = Ill 1815 Uriah Baker was part of Thomas Baker 1740. They show an Edward as s/o Thomas that if that was possibly my Edmund, it would have made Uriah his nephew. Thot was that possibly 2 Baker lines coming into same local may have been related. If they were not related then that would have put at least 3 Baker lines in FCI in 1818. Kinda stretches the imigination somewhat to think that altho possibe, that they were totally different lines. Coonrad Baker was a German line. That leaves Edmund & family along with Uriah's family. Possible but you KNOW how my mind works ! best steve

Very good thought!!! No, I didn't think of that. I sure am slow to catch on. No, only found her in 1880 Census in Saline, Illinois. That is, after her first husband had died, then she remarried again for her to be in 1880. On her children, all her children are little young'un. So maybe she stay with aunts or sisters, etc.. Thank for sharing with me your thoughts on this. Teresa from Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: <MomNat@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Widow's pension in Civil War > In a message dated 01/07/2001 9:48:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, > jtjjy@surfree.com writes: > > << 4 years later before his wife had married again. So that make me wonder > how she survived during the 4 years period >> > Have you found her on the census? She may have been living with one of her > children. > Kathryne > >

You can get a form from the Old Military and Civil Records(NWCTB-Pension) Textual Archives Services Division, National Archives and Records Administration, 700 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20408-0001. Its Form 85 that you need. Fill this out and send in. When they find the information they will let you know and you can send payment then or do it with a credit card. I received the pension papers of my g grandfather and g uncle. There was a lot of information in there. Include as much information that you can on the form and that might make a big difference. Jim At 08:49 AM 1/7/01 -0600, you wrote: >Where can I check out for widow's pension in Civil War? Is there any url web site where I can check this out? I have found Douglas Carter in Illinois Civil War, Company E, the 29th Infantry Illinois Volunteers and he died 1873 in Raleigh, IL. It was 4 years later before his wife had married again. So that make me wonder how she survived during the 4 years period and she must have been drawing widow's pension. How can I find information on that and to get copy of her pension? Any help is much appreciated. Teresa from Oklahoma > >

In a message dated 01/07/2001 9:48:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, jtjjy@surfree.com writes: << 4 years later before his wife had married again. So that make me wonder how she survived during the 4 years period >> Have you found her on the census? She may have been living with one of her children. Kathryne

Hi James, Now I don't know if there is an easier way but ......... I recently obtained a copy of the Pension Index Card containing the application number needed to send for a copy of both a military record and pension record of my ancestor. I obtained the Pension card from Ancestry.com (during there recent free trial), but I know you can also order the microfilm the cards are on through your local LDS. The cards have a space for widows. You can find a ton of info at the following site http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/civilwar.html this site allows you to order (online)the form needed once you have obtained the application number. I hope this helps. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: James Young To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 6:49 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Widow's pension in Civil War Where can I check out for widow's pension in Civil War? Is there any url web site where I can check this out? I have found Douglas Carter in Illinois Civil War, Company E, the 29th Infantry Illinois Volunteers and he died 1873 in Raleigh, IL. It was 4 years later before his wife had married again. So that make me wonder how she survived during the 4 years period and she must have been drawing widow's pension. How can I find information on that and to get copy of her pension? Any help is much appreciated. Teresa from Oklahoma

Where can I check out for widow's pension in Civil War? Is there any url web site where I can check this out? I have found Douglas Carter in Illinois Civil War, Company E, the 29th Infantry Illinois Volunteers and he died 1873 in Raleigh, IL. It was 4 years later before his wife had married again. So that make me wonder how she survived during the 4 years period and she must have been drawing widow's pension. How can I find information on that and to get copy of her pension? Any help is much appreciated. Teresa from Oklahoma

I am looking for information on Melas William Hudnell his wife Ethel Prather and their son Troyce Finley Hudnell b July 2nd 1911. The son lived in Harrisburg. His Social Security Application has his place of birth as Saline County. I have tried everything I can think of but can find no one from anywhere with the first name Melas. I would appreciate any help if you know of these people. Thank You Richard D. Nash

At 01:00 AM 1/7/01 -0800, you wrote: >I didn't notice the responses, so if you need directions, the books give >very explicit ones and I'd be happy to relate those to you if you need them. > >Donna Thanks Donna, The directions given in the posts were: Turn off Rte 34 at Rileyville and go West about one mile. My husband seemed to know where that was about. He lived in Saline County, next door to his father for a number of years while he was married to his first wife. As a matter of fact, the only reason he agreed to take me on the research trip was for the fishing he could do while we are down there. We're just waiting till the "worst" of the winter season if over with. But thank you very much for your kind offer. Debbie

I didn't notice the responses, so if you need directions, the books give very explicit ones and I'd be happy to relate those to you if you need them. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie and Jeff Woolard <dwoolard@keynet.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:05 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Thank you for cemetery names > Thank you everyone for looking my Woolard's up for me! You were able to > supply me with some information that I didn't have (those three young > children), and some dates I could only guess at. > > Well since I've already made my husband promise me to take a research trip > down to Saline County (after all it's his family I'm researching <g>), now > at least I know where I can find these graves to take some pictures > of. The only cemetery we knew for sure was where my father-in-law is > buried (Tate's Chapel Cemetery). > > Thank you once again for looking them up! > > Debbie >

Steve, Where did your Bakers come from before settling in Illinois? Mine came from Walker Co. Alabama in the early 1820's. Martha Baker Harpling