Hopefully somebody recognize this family here and is working on this line. James and Sarah Lowe's daughter, Martha A. Lowe Souther is my step gggrandmother. She married to my gggrandfather, Andrew Jack Souther. I do not know when Martha and Andrew J. Souther died or where buried at. This is the reason I have put her rest of family, hoping the descendants of Lowe's might know the existence of Martha and Andrew J. Souther. Take a look at this family below. If you can help me with this, I will appreciated it very much. Thank you. Teresa from Oklahoma 1. JAMES R. LOWE was born Abt. 1831, and died Aft. 1890 in Raleigh, Illinois. He married SARAH ANN WELCH August 19, 1851 in Saline County, Illinois. Children of JAMES LOWE and SARAH WELCH are: i. MARTHA A. LOWE, b. Abt. 1856, Illinois; m. ANDREW JACK SOUTHER, April 08, 1880, Raleigh Precient, Saline County, IL.; b. 1850, Illinois. ii. JANE LOWE, m. PETER F. HALE, October 06, 1870, Saline County, Illinois. iii. MARY S. LOWE, m. WILLIAM A. D. HOLLADA, October 31, 1878, Saline County, Illinois. iv. AMANDA S. LOWE, m. ROBERT J. KARNES, November 30, 1882, Saline County, Illinois. v. EMMA LOWE, m. J. H. KARNES, March 29, 1888, Saline County, Illinois. vi. WILLIAM E. LOWE. Abstracts of Wills, Saline County, Illinois, 1847-1911. Book 1, Page 262. LOWE, James R. of Raleigh, Illinois. Date will made: 9 April 1890. Witnesses: G. W. Glasscock, Andrew Smith, J. P. Chenault. Heirs: Five girls, daughters: Jane Hale, Martha A. Souther, Mary S. Hollada, Amanda S. Karnes, Emma Karnes. Only son: William E. Lowe. Administrator: W. H. H. Whitlock of Raleigh, Illinois. Date entered into probate: September term 1891.

Just as a note, Fort Donelson is about 120 miles by road from Harrisburg at the southern end of the Land Between The Lakes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Musgrave" <jmusgrave@onecliq.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] FORT DONELSON > The firing was also heard in Galatia, Illinois, in Saline County. It was > also recorded in a diary as being heard at Elizabethtown, Illinois, in > Hardin County. > > Jon Musgrave > www.IllinoisHistory.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Dolluver01@aol.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 4:05 PM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] FORT DONELSON > > > > Could anyone tell me where Fort Donelson was located between Marion, IL > and > > Harrisburg. According to the Journal of IL. State Historical Society, > April > > 1934, Vol. 17, #1, The owner of the carding mill in Marion was "bribed" > > with 10 free acres to move his mill from Marion to Harrisburg and as his > > family traveled from Marion to Harrisburg, they traveled during the battle > at > > Fort Donelson hearing the guns. > > Thanks, > > Linda Holmes White > > Dolluver01@aol.com > > > >

The firing was also heard in Galatia, Illinois, in Saline County. It was also recorded in a diary as being heard at Elizabethtown, Illinois, in Hardin County. Jon Musgrave www.IllinoisHistory.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dolluver01@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] FORT DONELSON > Could anyone tell me where Fort Donelson was located between Marion, IL and > Harrisburg. According to the Journal of IL. State Historical Society, April > 1934, Vol. 17, #1, The owner of the carding mill in Marion was "bribed" > with 10 free acres to move his mill from Marion to Harrisburg and as his > family traveled from Marion to Harrisburg, they traveled during the battle at > Fort Donelson hearing the guns. > Thanks, > Linda Holmes White > Dolluver01@aol.com >

1) In one "group" at the McPherson Cemetery it lists the following: Patton, Pearlie O. 1899-1924 Margaret B. 1905-1924 Charles 1896-1924 Allen 1901-1938 Watson 1870-1948 Sarah Jane 1875-1958 How are these folks related to each other? Was there an epidemic of something in 1924? 2) In my database I have Ed Miles married to Mary E. Sutton. Does Ed also have a sister named Mary E. MILES ?? The cemetery records have a Mary E (1881-1959) listed next to Nora E (1900-21) and Martha S (1887-93) -- ch of Robert N (1852-1922) and Elizabeth (1855-1933) Miles. 3) In my database I was given the surname FURH - in the cemetery records and Social Security records is shows FUHR - which is correct ? Thanks, Kathy Kathleen HAYES LaRose Searching: HICKS, ROBERTSON, SHELDON, AND STONE in Southern Illinois

In reviewing a list of those buried in the Love-McPherson Cemetery (also know as Black Cemetery) in Hardin County, Illinois, raises the following questions. Hope someone can help me, please and thank you ---- 1) Listed as: Margaret Waters (1837-1877) w/o C. P. Waters is this Charles Waters (b.Nov 21, 1872) s/o Jonathan Grant Waters and Martha Jennie Warford? 2) Is Martha WARFORD Waters a sister to David T. Warford, who is the husband of Elizabeth BLACK Robertson? 3) Does anyone have any info on the following 3 children of David and Elizabeth Warford - Ida, Sarah (Sadie), and Colonel? 4) What is Colonel Warford's given names? I am guessing that Colonel is a title and not a given name - ?? Kathleen LaRose Love is patient, love is kind....bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails. 1 Corinthians 13:4,7 NASB

Darrell, Thank you for your response. I thought that is where the Fort was located, but couldn't figure how from TN to So. IL the firing could be heard. Perhaps the IL Historical Society wanted to spice the story, since you think of all the timber during that era. Those cannon balls must have been more powerful than we ever imagined. Thank, Linda

Fort Donelson is not in Illinois but is Located in Dover, TN http://www.nps.gov/fodo/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dolluver01@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] FORT DONELSON > Could anyone tell me where Fort Donelson was located between Marion, IL and > Harrisburg. According to the Journal of IL. State Historical Society, April > 1934, Vol. 17, #1, The owner of the carding mill in Marion was "bribed" > with 10 free acres to move his mill from Marion to Harrisburg and as his > family traveled from Marion to Harrisburg, they traveled during the battle at > Fort Donelson hearing the guns. > Thanks, > Linda Holmes White > Dolluver01@aol.com > >

Could anyone tell me where Fort Donelson was located between Marion, IL and Harrisburg. According to the Journal of IL. State Historical Society, April 1934, Vol. 17, #1, The owner of the carding mill in Marion was "bribed" with 10 free acres to move his mill from Marion to Harrisburg and as his family traveled from Marion to Harrisburg, they traveled during the battle at Fort Donelson hearing the guns. Thanks, Linda Holmes White Dolluver01@aol.com

Does anyone know Donald Ray Sheldon's email address? I am working on their genealogy lines and would like to contact him. If you don't want to give me his, will you please give him mine and ask him to contact me. Thank you! Kathy in Branson Kathleen HAYES LaRose Searching: HICKS, ROBERTSON, SHELDON, AND STONE in Southern Illinois

could some on send me the sign off directions I seem to have lost mine, thanks, kim . goldwelt@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Donna, This is the information I have on Lawrence W. Smith. I hope it helps you in your research . Judy Foreman Lee L.W. Smith, 89, Retired Farmer, Dies at Pierson LawrenceW. Smith, 89, father of two well known Harrisburg business men, Adolphand Oscar  Y. (Cotton) Smith, died at5:30 a. m. today at the home of adaughter, Mrs. Isaac Webb, of Pierson. Mr.Smith, whose 89th birthday was celebrated last November, became ill seven weeks ago, and died of the infirmities of old age. He was a retired farmer andhad since early manhood lived on a farm near McCormack in Pope County. He was born in Iowa and married the late Louisa Barger of Pope county as a youngman.  She died two years ago.  Their children, who were born and reared in Pope county, are very well known. They are :  Fred Smith, Gillman; Adolph Smith, Harrisburg; Carl Smith, West Frankfort; Charles Smith, Evansville; Francis Smith, Sesser; Oscar Y. (Cotton) Smith. Harrisburg; Mrs. George Webb and Mrs. Isaac Webb, Pierson; and Mrs. Halsey (Etta) Minor, Pontiac, Mich. He also leaves 26 grandchildren and 15 great grandchildren and three great-great-grandchildren.  A good number of the younger generation of grandsons are in military service and it is not known how many of these will be permitted to attend his funeral, which will be held Saturday. Mr.Smith was a Baptist by faith and had been active in the church and as a Sunday school teacher and officer until ill health forced him to discontinue these activities. The body of Mr. Smith will lie in state at the Gibbons funeral home tonight, and will be taken to the home of his daughter, Mrs. Isaac Webb, in the morning, where it will remain until the time of the services.  The funeral willbe held at Bolden church in Pope county, Saturday at 2 p. m.  The Rev. David Morse and the Rev. W. E. Dutton officiating and burial will be at Bolden cemetery. Newspaper and date unknown This obituary was entered as written. However, there are a few errors. Changes2/21/2000 Lawrence was born in Canoe Creek Twp, Rock Island Co., IL Gillman is spelled Gilman Lawrence died March 23, 1944 Bolden cemetery is spelled Boulden today Additions Lawrence was the son of Henry and Mary (Luke) Smith who resided in the state of NY in 1840 and 1850, Rock Island Co. in 1860, Webster Co., IA in 1880. Lawrence's first wife was Permelia Moyers, his second wife Laura S Barger and third wife Louisa S Barger Notesfor LAURA SHUFFLEBARGER: Mrs.L. W. Smith of McCormack Dies The funeral of Mrs. Louise Smith, 75, wife of L. W. Smith of McCormack communitynsoutheast of Stonefort, will be held Tuesday at 2 p. m. at their home, and she will be buried at Bolden cemetery, near Eddyville. Mrs.Smith was the mother of Mrs. H. H. Minor, Oscar (Cotton) Smith, and Francis Smith of Harrisburg, and of Carl Smith, who recently moved from Pennsylvania to North Carolina. She was the stepmother of A. L. Smith, who operates the Smith Packing Co. of this city, Mrs. George Webb, Mitchellsville, Mrs. Isaac Webb, Pierson, and Charles Smith, Evansville, and Fred Smith, Gillman. Her death occurred at 3:30a. m. today Newspaperand date unknown.  Probably Harrisburg paper This obituary was typed as written.  There are a few errors. Changes2/21/2000 Louise Smith is the former Louisa S Barger Louisa died April 20, 1942 Bolden cemetery is spelled Boulden today Gillman is spelled Gilman Additions LouisaS Barger was the daughter of Jonathan S Barger and Julie (Newton) Bargerof Pope Co., IL       Childof LAWRENCE SMITH and LAURA SHUFFLEBARGER is:                    i.       LIDDY LEOTA2 SMITH, b. 09 February1887. Notes for LIDDY LEOTA SMITH: Mrs.Liddy Leota(Ottie) Webb, age 102, a resident of Saline Care Center, diedthere Sunday. She was married on Aug. 7, 1904 to Isaac Webb, who preceded her in death Oct 17, 1959.  She was born on Feb. 9, 1887 in Pope County to the late LawrenceW. and Laura S.Barger Smith.  Mrs. Webb was a member of the spring Valley Social Brethern Church.   Survivors include a daughter, Mrs. Jeanette Moore of Harrisburg, 4 grandchildren,5 great grandchildren. Two sons, Irvin Webb and Truman Webb,a daughter Minnie Wise, 7 brothers Fred, Adolph, William, Charles, Francis, Carl and Oscar Smith and two sisters, Laura Smith and Etta Miner,p receded her in death. >From the Harrisburg Daily Register 27 June 1989 UdyDee43@aol.com <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/il/leefoss/">Lee and Foss, Southeastern Illinois Genealogy Publishers</A>

The last email address I had for Tassy was: TexasTag@ev1.net Bud Davis http://bud.davis.home.att.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Wesley [mailto:darrellwes@home.com] Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 12:00 PM To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Looking for Tassy Guenther If Tassy Guenther is monitoring this list please contact me about Heli Herring. Thanks, Darrell Wesley

If Tassy Guenther is monitoring this list please contact me about Heli Herring. Thanks, Darrell Wesley

Although I have roots in that area, I haven't been there since I was a baby. I am just now beginning to trace my family. However, it may be a long shot, but I do know some Cox's here in arkansas. You might contact them, I believe they may have roots in that area. cox@arkansas.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I am hoping to find information on the John W. Cox and Anne Cox Family.  They resided in Harrisburg all their life.  Their children were:       Woodward married Mary       Bonnie Ethel  married Coy Waddell       Walter married Alta and had 1 daughter       Carl married Nell and had 5 or 6 children       Merle married Jewel and had 1 son       Eva (deceased)       David married Hattie had 1 daughter       Vernie never married. David Cox and Carl may still be living in the area, or their children.  I am the graddaughter of Bonnie and would like to find any of the Cox family to continue my genealogy of the family line.  Thanks for any help. Bonita Moss Davis

What it means to be busy..... >>> >>>Satan called a worldwide convention. In his opening address >>>to his evil angels, he said, "We can't keep the Christians >>>from going to church. We can't keep them from reading >>>their Bibles and knowing the truth. >>> >>>We can't even keep them from forming an intimate, >>>abiding relationship experience in Christ. Once >>>they gain that connection with Jesus, our power over them is >>>broken. So let them go to their churches; let them have >>>their conservative lifestyles, but steal their time, so >>>they can't gain that relationship with Jesus Christ. >>> >>>This is what I want you to do, angels. Distract them >>>from gaining hold of their Savior and maintaining that vital >>>connection throughout their day!" >>> >>>"How shall we do this?" shouted his angels. "Keep >>>them busy in the nonessentials of life and invent innumerable schemes >>>to occupy their minds," he answered. "Tempt them to >>>spend, spend, spend, and borrow, borrow, borrow. >>>Persuade the wives to go to work for long hours and the >>>husbands to work 6-7 days each week, 10-12 hours a day, >>>so they can afford their empty lifestyles. >>> >>>Keep them from spending time with their children. As >>>their family fragments, soon, their home will offer no escape >>>from the pressures of work!" >>> >>>"Over-stimulate their minds so that they cannot hear that still, >>>small voice. Entice them to play the radio or cassette player >>>whenever they drive. To keep the TV, VCR, CDs and their PCs going >>>constantly in their home and see to it that every store and restaurant in >>>the >>>world plays non-biblical music constantly. This will jam their minds and >>>break that union with Christ." >>> >>>"Fill the coffee tables with magazines and newspapers. Pound their >>>minds with the news 24 hours a day. Invade their driving moments >>>with billboards. Flood their mailboxes with junk mail, mail order >>>catalogs, >>>sweepstakes, and every kind of newsletter and promotional offering free >>>products, services and false hopes. Keep skinny, beautiful models on >>>the magazines so their husbands will believe that external beauty is >>>what's important, and they'll become dissatisfied with their wives. >>>That will fragment those families quickly!" >>> >>>"Even in their recreation, let them be excessive. Have them return from >>>their recreation exhausted, disquieted and unprepared for the coming >>>week. Don't let them go out in nature to reflect on God's wonders. Send >>>them to amusement parks, sporting events, concerts and movies instead. >>>Keep them busy, busy, busy!" >>> >>>"And when they meet for spiritual fellowship, involve them in gossip >>>and small talk so that they leave with troubled consciences and unsettled >>>emotions. Go ahead, let them be involved in soul winning; but crowd >>>their >>>lives with so many good causes they have no time to seek power from >>>Jesus. >>>Soon they will be working in their own strength, sacrificing their >>>health >>>and >>>family for the good of the cause. It will work! It will work!" >>> >>>It was quite a convention. The evil angels went eagerly to their >>>assignments >>>causing Christians everywhere to get more busy and more rushed, going >>>here >>>and there. >>> >>>I guess the question is: Has the devil been successful at his scheme? >>>You be the judge! Does "busy" mean: >>>B-eing >>>U-nder >>>S-atan's >>>Y-oke? >>are you too busy to pass this on? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --part1_a2.f40b916.27a1ed48_boundary--

Norman, I will be happy to look, It may take me a few days. My boys are having basketball games all this week and the next. But I will look for your name. On Sangamon I only have a partial list. Christene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman L. Gidcumb" <ngidcumb@bearlake-net.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] 1900 census of St. Clair, Saline and Sangamon > Christene, > > I have a Henry and George Henry CUMBERWORTH who were living in Sangamon > County in 1900. Can you find them in your census? > > Thanks, > Norm > > > >

Christene, I have a Henry and George Henry CUMBERWORTH who were living in Sangamon County in 1900. Can you find them in your census? Thanks, Norm

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Hi, Could someone please tell me if Hugh Gregg and his son John Calvin Gregg were both married to Mary Ann Caplinger? I have information that both were married to this woman. I would like to verify it. Thanks. Connie Sieveking Researching: DAVIS, EDWARDS, TROUSDALE, PEARCE, WOLFE, KEASLER, DELAP, VINEYARD, GARRETT, GARRISON, MORRIS, HARRELL, DOUGLASS