I would like a Saline County map with townships also. DSmith1216@aol.com Thanks, Donna

To all of those who have requested maps of Saline County Townships, I can recommend the Land Atlas and Plat Book of Saline County that is distributed by the Saline County Farm Bureau at 21 West Robinson in Harrisburg, IL 62946. Their phone number is 618-252-6992. I believe the cost is somewhere around $12, but you would need to check this first. They are spiral bound and have each township separate. The cemeteries and churches are marked, but not by name and you would need to know where in the township the church and/or cemetery is located. The Cemetery books from the SCGS have these directions with each one. I am not involved in the sale or proceeds from any of these publications, including the plat books, just offering a suggestion. Best wishes, Barbara

CARL THE ONLY INFORMATION IS: REYNOLDS, John A. 1841 - 1885 Elmira, Wife d. 1920 John Jr. 1874 - 1956 Hope this helps.

Would someone be kind enough to check the Coffee Cemetery records for JOHN REYNOLDS (DOD: 1885) and his wife ELMIRA (ELMYRA)? Exact DOBs and DODs would be helpful. Thanks. Carl Reynolds

I would very much like a map also. I'm planning a trip to Saline Co. this summer and a map of towns and cemeteries would be great! Thanks so much! Betty Pickens Phillips awbpphil@cox-internet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Faith Hogue <fhogue@sheltonbbs.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:15 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] maps > Does anyone have a township map of Saline County. I am interested in > locating Rector Township. Any help appreciated. If anyone has a map > and can scan it, would appreciate them sending it to my email > fhogue@sheltonbbs.com. > Thank you, Faith > >

Does anyone have a township map of Saline County. I am interested in locating Rector Township. Any help appreciated. If anyone has a map and can scan it, would appreciate them sending it to my email fhogue@sheltonbbs.com. Thank you, Faith

Sense you grew up in Gallatin Co would you have any information on a Simpson family, the first info I have on them is the 1900 census and the head of house was Anna they lived in North York, twp Three daughters Sallie, Stella, Mollie. Also in Saline County a Simon Hanselman family they lived in East Eldorado Twp wife Mary Jane 3 children Simon, George, Mary. Thanks mls

My grandmother was Lena Baker, born 02 August 1886 in Galatia, Saline Co., Ill. died 14 November 1967 in El Paso, Texas. I don't know if she ever lived in Harrisburg, most of my Baker clan lived in Brushy. Charles Baker Bowman, Jr. El Paso, TX

Steve, I have found more Bakers integrating into the family. Can you connect to any of them? All from Hickman Co. TN Cheatham Baker 6/2/1892 to 5/1973 Rozie (Gidcomb) Baker 8/18/1899 to 4/12/1989 James Baker 3/31/1918 to 10/1980 Joe Baker 2/20/1921 to 12/4/1998 Warren Baker 2/28/1920 to 5/1988 From Woodville, Sandusky, OH. Sanford Baker Phoebe (Osborn) Baker Edmund Goodrich Baker 9/1/1858 Ida Lavinia Baker 9/4/1861 George Clark Baker 1/24/1863 Laura Isabelle Baker 3/16/1865 Rose Wentworth Baker 12/9/1866 Sandford Gadcomb Baker 10/30/1868 Katherine Baker 12/5/1870 William Porter Baker 1/4/1873 Arthur Albert Baker 4/12/1875 Charles Henry Baker 7/31/1878 Lota Luck Norm

Thought you might enjoy this......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Freeman" <Sandrafreeman1111@earthlink.net> To: <OZARK-RESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:40 PM Subject: Fw: Feather Crowns in Pillows > This is the original post from Nancy Jackon on another list about this > subject.... > Sandra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nancy Jackson <tsalagi@train.missouri.org> > To: <cherokee@topica.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:32 PM > Subject: Feather Crowns in Pillows > > > > NEW SUBJECT. > > Everybody please post what information you have about this. > > > > Feather crowns that are found inside feather pillows after the pillows' > > owner has passed on. > > > > They are the size of a small birds nest and look like a birds nest. It is > > believed that the "maker" of the 'crown' has went on to receive his reward > > in Heaven. > > My mother had her grandfathers feather crown which she found in Grammas' > > things after she died. It was done up like a little present in a pretty > > little box. She had tied it with ribbon and all it said was "Novel Francis > > Denneys' Crown". > > > > When someone would die, the remaining family would cut open their feather > > pillow and search for the crown. It brought great comfort to the remaining > > family to see this physical sign of heavenly reward. > > Also........many "women of the house" were very loyal to open up every > > feather pillow in the spring, separate the feathers by hand, soak them in > > water, lay them out in the sun to dry. > > I wonder if they felt this would protect the pillows' owner for another > year > > if there were no crown? > > > > anyway........this has been tradition in our family for about six > > generations here in the Ozarks..........which is also a Cherokee family. > > > > Anyone know if this has any Cherokee meaning? > > > > ***It would be wonderful if every person on this list could possibly post > an > > idea on this subject.........or even just say, "Hi"<g> > > > > Nancy J. > > Northern Cherokee Nation Website > > http://ncnolt1.homestead.com/index.html > > ************************************ > > Check out my eBay items by searching for > > "Cherokee Legacy" > > ************************************ > > http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/utsonati/legacy/cherokeeleg.htm > > > > >

LANDIS W RISTER Eldorado Mike A Rister Brighton Darrell Rister Harrisburg Lena Baker Harrisburg Hildred Baker Harrisburg Janet L Baker Harrisburg Donald Baker Harrisburg Does anyone know these Rister's/Baker's ? According to a search I just did, they are owed money. Probably just a lost bank account or something. Hey, GOTTA help muh cousins !! This is an interesting search area. http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/deathrecords.html Best, steve

You don't give any dates with these names, but I grew up in Ridgway, IL and I knew some people with these names in that area. They may have had an Omaha, IL address. Both in Gallatin County. Good luck! Jackie Choate Willett ----- Original Message ----- From: <SSpunk@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: Lost Bakers/Risters > LANDIS W RISTER Eldorado > Mike A Rister Brighton > Darrell Rister Harrisburg > Lena Baker Harrisburg > Hildred Baker Harrisburg > Janet L Baker Harrisburg > Donald Baker Harrisburg > > Does anyone know these Rister's/Baker's ? According to a search I just did, > they are owed money. Probably just a lost bank account or something. Hey, > GOTTA help muh cousins !! > This is an interesting search area. > > http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/deathrecords.html > > Best, steve > >

Friends, As most of you know, we have a collection of Primitive Baptist church records, including some for Saline and Hamilton counties, as well as White and others in southern Illinois. Due to these records having information about living people, we do not feel it is appropriate to publish them in book form. If any of the area genealogical or historical societies which have copies of these records intend to do so, we cannot prevent them, but would just say that the people who turned such records (or copies of them) over to the societies, probably did not want them to be published, but might not have thought about that possibility, but didn't know what else to do with them. In keeping with the manner in which we conduct our churches - based on contributions given as people purpose in their hearts rather than any kind of system of buying and selling or other type of business venture or taxation, we conduct our library as volunteers and accept voluntary contributions from those who are able and wish to help, and do not charge others who are not able for our time. So far this has worked for us for almost 14 years. We do desire to share the information we have about the history of the churches, with those who are interested in it, and we will do this as stated above, without charging for it. If those who have copies of records refuse to share copies with us, on account of wishing to publish and sell books containing the same information that we intend to freely share, then we cannot make them do so. Our only recourse would be to encourage them to reconsider their position, and allow us to copy such records, as we are not intending to compete with them in the sale of books, records, etc., at all. We presume to say that it is our opinion that researchers whom we help with information from our database, our books, histories, etc., will not refrain from buying the books published by the historical societies on our account, because we will not sell copies of our church records. We know that our church people for all these generations would not want us to sell the records in book form, but they would want us to preserve them, and to share what they contain in an appropriate manner, with their interested descendants. I welcome anyone's thoughts on this who wishes to comment pro or con. I am not sure what records are located in the societies in Saline and Hamilton counties, because when I inquired they did not reply. Again, I would like to encourage the people involved to cooperate with us, rather than try to create a situation which would hurt everyone involved. Elder Robert Webb ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

--- Jon Musgrave <jmusgrave@onecliq.net> wrote: > There's a certain type of atmospheric condition that > exists that allows > sounds from one area to be heard far away, Very true. Here in So. Cal., when we are having what is called a "Santa Ana Wind Condition," that is just prior to or just after the wind part, sound carries an incredible distance ... Unfortunately, the sound that usually carries is freeway traffic! Judy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Linda makes a number of good points. Another one to throw into the mix is that as adults, our forefather's hearing was most likely more acute than ours. Our generation has been exposed to so much noise that many of us as adults suffer some hearing loss. Sam In a message dated 2/5/01 8:36:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dolluver01@aol.com writes: > Jon, > Thanks. It seems almost impossible that many miles, that cannons could be > heard, especially with all the timber of that era. I guess, in our day with > all the noise, it is difficult to imagine the peace and quite that lay over > the land and sound would travel to where you could hear it farther since > the > noise level would not be as great with all the cars, trucks, factories and > etc. > Thanks, >

Jon, This is really great that you and Darrell have had very good feed back on Fort Donnelson. I think, we need more discussions like this. I have been finding very good books at Antique Malls in Central IL on So. IL. history. Thanks Linda

Linda, I can imagine that the 6000 troops at that battle could make a very large noise and with cannon going of on both sides it might just be possible that the noise would carry on up the Cumberland and Tennessee River Valleys and across the Ohio into Illinois. I see that you mention "a lot of timber" I'd bet that most of that area was farm land, you'll have to remember that today the region is almost all Park land and preserved. I've been to several battle grounds here in the South and beleive me it would not be possible to have such a battle today with all of the forrest land present. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dolluver01@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] FORT DONELSON > Jon, > Thanks. It seems almost impossible that many miles, that cannons could be > heard, especially with all the timber of that era. I guess, in our day with > all the noise, it is difficult to imagine the peace and quite that lay over > the land and sound would travel to where you could hear it farther since the > noise level would not be as great with all the cars, trucks, factories and > etc. > Thanks, > Linda > >

There's a certain type of atmospheric condition that exists that allows sounds from one area to be heard far away, even when places in between cannot hear the sounds. Jon Musgrave www.IllinoisHistory.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dolluver01@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] FORT DONELSON > Jon, > Thanks. It seems almost impossible that many miles, that cannons could be > heard, especially with all the timber of that era. I guess, in our day with > all the noise, it is difficult to imagine the peace and quite that lay over > the land and sound would travel to where you could hear it farther since the > noise level would not be as great with all the cars, trucks, factories and > etc. > Thanks, > Linda >

Thanks Darrell, you and Jon have been very helpful. Linda

Jon, Thanks. It seems almost impossible that many miles, that cannons could be heard, especially with all the timber of that era. I guess, in our day with all the noise, it is difficult to imagine the peace and quite that lay over the land and sound would travel to where you could hear it farther since the noise level would not be as great with all the cars, trucks, factories and etc. Thanks, Linda