From Eldorado but married Ruth Richardson. What years did you go to school in 'Rado? Bill Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: <HELTSLEY@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Need some research info > Bill Johnson, > Is this the Bill Johnson who's married to Judy Carter? I used to go to > school with Judy in Eldorado. If it is the right one. Hello! Otherwise, sorry > to interrupt. Reason I did was I saw the Kankakee reference along with > Eldorado. > > Ernie Heltsley > >

Sorry, Steve, none. My Johnson's come from Eldorado, IL, and KY. By the way, where is Fancy Prairie, IL. I thought I knew my state fairly well but not this area. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Wilharm" <rcw6@prodigy.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: John D Johnson > Steve > Dou you have any Johnson's from Fancy Prairie, Illinois. > It looks like Graham is in that mix also. > > Robert > rcw6@prodigy.net > >

Steve Dou you have any Johnson's from Fancy Prairie, Illinois. It looks like Graham is in that mix also. Robert rcw6@prodigy.net

Several Johnsons: John Wilbur Johnson KY Earl Coleman Johnson KY George Johnson, KY George Coleman Johnson, KY * birthplaces--KY Steve, what part of the world do you hail from? Me, northern Illinois. Hope we have some luck on these. Peace. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SSpunk@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:36 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: John D Johnson > << JLJOHN1957@aol.com >> > Which John Johnson ? I've got 19 of them sitting in my files in one manner > or the other. Hey, SOME of them are even related to me ! Seriously, my BAKER > family seemed to have a thing for Johnson's ! lol Who knows, maybe ? > steve > >

Anyone out there researching ORTONS in Saline Co.? Pauline Reihart Pfafflin Orton and second husband, William ORTON lived in Saline Co., Cottage Grove Twp., between 1880-1900. At least one of the children, Mathew, remained in Saline Co. where he died in 1922. 1 Pauline Reihart 1845 - 1914 b: Abt. 1845 in Germany d: 1914 Burial: Bellefontaine Cemetery, Mt. Vernon, Posey Co., IN .. +Hugo Pfafflin 1843 - 1871 b: Bet. 1843 - 1845 in Wurtemburg, Germany d: 9 December 1871 m: 1 May 1866 in Posey Co., IN Burial: Bellefontaine Cemetery, Mt. Vernon, Posey Co., IN ......... 2 Matilda Pfafflin 1868 - b: 24 April 1868 in IN ......... 2 Otto Pfafflin 1871 - b: Abt. 1871 in IN *2nd Husband of Pauline Reihart: .. +William Orton 1848 - 1921 b: 2 February 1848 in IN d: 30 November 1921 m: 25 March 1880 in Saline Co., IL Burial: Bellefontaine Cemetery, Mt. Vernon, Posey Co., IN ......... 2 Arthur Orton 1876 - b: May 1876 in IL ............. +Lula/Lalie Holland 1882 - b: December 1882 in IL m: 25 December 1898 in Saline Co., IL .................... 3 Edna Orton 1900 - b: January 1900 in IL .................... 3 Mathew Orton - 1922 d: 20 September 1922 in Saline Co., IL ......... 2 Matthew Orton 1880 - b: Abt. 1880 in IL ......... 2 Mary Orton 1880 - b: December 1880 in IL ......... 2 Gertrude Orton 1883 - b: July 1883 in IN

<< JLJOHN1957@aol.com >> Which John Johnson ? I've got 19 of them sitting in my files in one manner or the other. Hey, SOME of them are even related to me ! Seriously, my BAKER family seemed to have a thing for Johnson's ! lol Who knows, maybe ? steve

Judy Johnson, one of your surnames I saw was Jones. Would there be any relation to a Strutton Jones? He was married to my dads aunt Nancy Bixler. Thanks, Johnny Bond

My husband lived in Saline County for a few years with his first wife back in the '80s which is why he is willing to take me on a research there (even though its his family I'm researching<g>). When his father moved back to Saline County after many years absence, my husband moved next door to him when he was laying brick in Southern Illinois. Of course, when he got a divorce from his first wife, he decided to move back to where he grew up, Kankakee. So needless to say, he's really looking forward to fishing there once again! He keeps on asking me to find out if there is any freezing on the ponds and lakes. Hint, hint... <VBG> We are even going to make a detour to Massac county to do some research for my side of the family, so he'll get in lots of fishing! Debbie -----Original Message----- From: James R. Griffin Sr. [mailto:jrgsr@shawneelink.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:36 PM To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Need some research info Debbie, I would like to butt in here about the fishing for your husband. Southern Illinois has a lot of fishing areas. Rend Lake, Crab Orchard Lake, Little Grassey Lake, Devils Kitchen lake, just to mention a few. All would be within easy traveling range of wherever you stay close to Harrisburg, Saline County. Jim At 10:44 AM 2/21/01 -0600, you wrote: >I wish I could help you but I would suggest going going to the State of >Illinois page, Saline County for some answers. Probably a phone call could >be more help. Good luck. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Debbie and Jeff Woolard" <dwoolard@keynet.net> >To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:04 AM >Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Need some research info > > >> Hi everyone, >> I need some info about the Saline County Courthouse's policies regarding >> mail in requests for info and when you show up personally. >> Do they perform searches for you if you give an approx. date? Or do you >> need to know exact information? >> >> I was told that there is a $2 fee for records before 1900 from the County >> Clerks office, but what about records after 1900? What is the fee then? >> >> Also, for the Clerk of Circuit Court, do I mail my request to same address >> as the County Clerk's? Some counties use different P.O. Box's for these >two >> offices. And does anyone know the fees? >> >> Finally, I'm planning on going to Saline County to do research in the next >> couple of months (my husband wants to go fishing). Do they allow you to >> search the records yourself or must you fill out a form, pay a fee, then >> wait for the one item like some counties are going too? >> >> Any help anyone can give me on doing research with Saline County in person >> and by mail would be much appreciated! >> >> Debbie Woolard >> Surnames: Abney, Croach/Crouch, Crockett, McIntire/McIntyre, Pankey, >Ryan, >> Smith, Stepter, Wise, Woolard >> >> >> > > ______________________________

Hi everyone! Just wanted to say a big Thank You for the information you gave me! At least this way I can start writing some letters before I find out when we will actually be going. Debbie Woolard

Debbie and Jeff: Another southern Illinois person heard from! Fishing is great down there. I don't know where you are living but don't let him forget Jones Lake at Equality. My home is Eldorado and we go down once in awhile. Ruth's stepmother is at Carmi in a nursing home. I have a buddy in Marion and we go to Jones and always catch a few. Take care and have a great trip. Peace. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie and Jeff Woolard" <dwoolard@keynet.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:42 PM Subject: RE: [ILSALINE-L] Need some research info > My husband lived in Saline County for a few years with his first wife back > in the '80s which is why he is willing to take me on a research there (even > though its his family I'm researching<g>). When his father moved back to > Saline County after many years absence, my husband moved next door to him > when he was laying brick in Southern Illinois. Of course, when he got a > divorce from his first wife, he decided to move back to where he grew up, > Kankakee. > > So needless to say, he's really looking forward to fishing there once again! > He keeps on asking me to find out if there is any freezing on the ponds and > lakes. Hint, hint... <VBG> > > We are even going to make a detour to Massac county to do some research for > my side of the family, so he'll get in lots of fishing! > > Debbie > > -----Original Message----- > From: James R. Griffin Sr. [mailto:jrgsr@shawneelink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:36 PM > To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Need some research info > > > Debbie, I would like to butt in here about the fishing for your husband. > Southern Illinois has a lot > of fishing areas. Rend Lake, Crab Orchard Lake, Little Grassey Lake, Devils > Kitchen lake, just to mention > a few. All would be within easy traveling range of wherever you stay close > to Harrisburg, Saline County. > Jim > > > > At 10:44 AM 2/21/01 -0600, you wrote: > >I wish I could help you but I would suggest going going to the State of > >Illinois page, Saline County for some answers. Probably a phone call could > >be more help. Good luck. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Debbie and Jeff Woolard" <dwoolard@keynet.net> > >To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:04 AM > >Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Need some research info > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> I need some info about the Saline County Courthouse's policies regarding > >> mail in requests for info and when you show up personally. > >> Do they perform searches for you if you give an approx. date? Or do you > >> need to know exact information? > >> > >> I was told that there is a $2 fee for records before 1900 from the County > >> Clerks office, but what about records after 1900? What is the fee then? > >> > >> Also, for the Clerk of Circuit Court, do I mail my request to same > address > >> as the County Clerk's? Some counties use different P.O. Box's for these > >two > >> offices. And does anyone know the fees? > >> > >> Finally, I'm planning on going to Saline County to do research in the > next > >> couple of months (my husband wants to go fishing). Do they allow you to > >> search the records yourself or must you fill out a form, pay a fee, then > >> wait for the one item like some counties are going too? > >> > >> Any help anyone can give me on doing research with Saline County in > person > >> and by mail would be much appreciated! > >> > >> Debbie Woolard > >> Surnames: Abney, Croach/Crouch, Crockett, McIntire/McIntyre, Pankey, > >Ryan, > >> Smith, Stepter, Wise, Woolard > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ______________________________ >

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Debbie There are three motels in harrisburg now. A Super eight, plaza motel, and a new one that just opened. All are clean and reasonable. You should reserve rooms as far in advance as possible.

Judy, Which Ogden's are you researching? I also, have Ogden/Ogdon's in Pope County. Judy Carlson Grandview, Mo normcarlson@sprintmail.coM Researching Rose, Hall, Ogden/Ogdon, Shrimpton JLJOHN1957@aol.com wrote: > Debbie , we were in Harrisburg last spring doing research and they were all > great help . I beleive there is only one motel there , so you might want to > stay somewhere else . The people at the Genealogical Society went out of > their way to help me . I even joined and I get their newsletter every month > . I have hit a brick wall with my family the John D. Johnson's . Best to you > ! > SURNAMES - Johnson , Jones , Ogden , Lewis > > Judy Johnson

Debbie , we were in Harrisburg last spring doing research and they were all great help . I beleive there is only one motel there , so you might want to stay somewhere else . The people at the Genealogical Society went out of their way to help me . I even joined and I get their newsletter every month . I have hit a brick wall with my family the John D. Johnson's . Best to you ! SURNAMES - Johnson , Jones , Ogden , Lewis Judy Johnson

In a message dated 02/21/2001 10:54:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, dwoolard@keynet.net writes: << but what about records after 1900? What is the fee then? >> I paid $7.00 last April. Kathryne

Debbie, I would like to butt in here about the fishing for your husband. Southern Illinois has a lot of fishing areas. Rend Lake, Crab Orchard Lake, Little Grassey Lake, Devils Kitchen lake, just to mention a few. All would be within easy traveling range of wherever you stay close to Harrisburg, Saline County. Jim At 10:44 AM 2/21/01 -0600, you wrote: >I wish I could help you but I would suggest going going to the State of >Illinois page, Saline County for some answers. Probably a phone call could >be more help. Good luck. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Debbie and Jeff Woolard" <dwoolard@keynet.net> >To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:04 AM >Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Need some research info > > >> Hi everyone, >> I need some info about the Saline County Courthouse's policies regarding >> mail in requests for info and when you show up personally. >> Do they perform searches for you if you give an approx. date? Or do you >> need to know exact information? >> >> I was told that there is a $2 fee for records before 1900 from the County >> Clerks office, but what about records after 1900? What is the fee then? >> >> Also, for the Clerk of Circuit Court, do I mail my request to same address >> as the County Clerk's? Some counties use different P.O. Box's for these >two >> offices. And does anyone know the fees? >> >> Finally, I'm planning on going to Saline County to do research in the next >> couple of months (my husband wants to go fishing). Do they allow you to >> search the records yourself or must you fill out a form, pay a fee, then >> wait for the one item like some counties are going too? >> >> Any help anyone can give me on doing research with Saline County in person >> and by mail would be much appreciated! >> >> Debbie Woolard >> Surnames: Abney, Croach/Crouch, Crockett, McIntire/McIntyre, Pankey, >Ryan, >> Smith, Stepter, Wise, Woolard >> >> >> > >

Debbie: I have going to the Saline Courthouse in person the last two summers for my family research. They have been SUPER nice. They have let me look in person and, if I had several things needed, leave the info I need and pick it up in the morning(Such as death or marriage certificates). They even found a couple things on my family I wasn't even looking for. I hope they treat you as nice as they did me. Also - the people at the Genealogical Society are SUPER to. Johnny Bond

I wish I could help you but I would suggest going going to the State of Illinois page, Saline County for some answers. Probably a phone call could be more help. Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie and Jeff Woolard" <dwoolard@keynet.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Need some research info > Hi everyone, > I need some info about the Saline County Courthouse's policies regarding > mail in requests for info and when you show up personally. > Do they perform searches for you if you give an approx. date? Or do you > need to know exact information? > > I was told that there is a $2 fee for records before 1900 from the County > Clerks office, but what about records after 1900? What is the fee then? > > Also, for the Clerk of Circuit Court, do I mail my request to same address > as the County Clerk's? Some counties use different P.O. Box's for these two > offices. And does anyone know the fees? > > Finally, I'm planning on going to Saline County to do research in the next > couple of months (my husband wants to go fishing). Do they allow you to > search the records yourself or must you fill out a form, pay a fee, then > wait for the one item like some counties are going too? > > Any help anyone can give me on doing research with Saline County in person > and by mail would be much appreciated! > > Debbie Woolard > Surnames: Abney, Croach/Crouch, Crockett, McIntire/McIntyre, Pankey, Ryan, > Smith, Stepter, Wise, Woolard > > >

Hi everyone, I need some info about the Saline County Courthouse's policies regarding mail in requests for info and when you show up personally. Do they perform searches for you if you give an approx. date? Or do you need to know exact information? I was told that there is a $2 fee for records before 1900 from the County Clerks office, but what about records after 1900? What is the fee then? Also, for the Clerk of Circuit Court, do I mail my request to same address as the County Clerk's? Some counties use different P.O. Box's for these two offices. And does anyone know the fees? Finally, I'm planning on going to Saline County to do research in the next couple of months (my husband wants to go fishing). Do they allow you to search the records yourself or must you fill out a form, pay a fee, then wait for the one item like some counties are going too? Any help anyone can give me on doing research with Saline County in person and by mail would be much appreciated! Debbie Woolard Surnames: Abney, Croach/Crouch, Crockett, McIntire/McIntyre, Pankey, Ryan, Smith, Stepter, Wise, Woolard

Hello I understand from Wayne McMeins you are researching the McMeins family. If so, would you let me know what line you are looking at? I'm looking for Wilbur McMeins b 1913, his father Oric McMeins, his father Elias McMeins and his father Charles. They were born in IL and OK, I think. Thanks Linda Greenwood IN