In a message dated 2/27/01 3:56:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, ILSALINE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << The Rice Cemetery is located just north if Harrisburg, Saline County, Illinois off of US Hwy 45 in the township of Cottage >> Off Wasson road ? or close to it. It SHOULD be the BAKER cemetary. bummin' steve

Thanks for the information. Jim At 05:04 PM 2/26/01 -0500, you wrote: >Jim > >There is Douglas Cemetery on Rt. 142 about 4 or 5 miles North of Eldorado, >on the way to Broughton. The cemetery is about 2 miles east (which is to >your right) when you are driving North on the hiway,. and there is still a >church there. > >

To all of you that look up in the census and marriages for William T. Tate, I want to thank you very much. I am sorry I had the the wrong date on William T. birth date. Out of the ones that were send to me I think the one in 1870 census in Tate Twp. house no 106 is the one that I wanted. Would any one know who his father is? Again thanks for all of your help. Jim

Considering that everyone in the world is on the Saline County board right now (is it raining in So. Ill.?), this might be a good time to praise an excellent (and free) source of on-line information of which some are unaware. The on-line Illinois Marriage Index (provided by the State) is a wealth of information. For those of you unfamiliar with this resource, it covers a considerable number of counties (but not yet all) throughout the State from 1763 to 1900 (I've actually seen a 1906). You can search by groom or bride, full names or only surnames, by county or by the "entire" State, etc. If you find a possible "match", a linked page tells you how to go about ordering copies of marriage registers (typically much less expensive than the actual certificates--but the page is not a certified page, etc.). The marriage register will provide a considerable amount of information--ages of the parties, names of parents (including maiden name of mothers), where they were living at time of marriage, names of witnesses, etc. Since the register is inexpensive, you can afford to do a little fishing. While on line, you will need to scroll to the right to see all of the information. Remember to include that information when you make your request. In case you have not visited this site, may I suggest you give a look: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/genealogy/marrsrch.html Happy hunting, Jo Ann Henderson Higdon Bermuda Dunes, CA, USA searching: HENDERSON, AVERY, PULLEY, JACKS, HIGDON and lots of others in So. Ill.

> Sue, > I am looking for William T. Tate born about 1818, his wife Amanda > Simmons born 1820. They had two boys that I know of, Marshall born 1860, > William Allen born 1866. I would like to know where they give as a birth > place. Thanks for your help. Jim Well, this was a little tricky, mainly because of the birth dates you provided :-) so I had to start with the facts (Tate and Simmons).... Franklin Co IL Marriages 1878-1893 By Jean Buntin & Mary Eubanks T. Marshall TATE, b. Hamilton Co, age 23, father: Wm TATE, mother: Amanda Simmons married 14 Mar. 1884 to: Flora A.(Lelora?) HOWARD, b. Hamilton Co, father: James HOWARD, mother: Kiziah TATE This has to be the Wm T Tate that Sue found living in a hh by his self (I bet William & Amanda's marriage in Hamilton Co...). He was not in Ham Co 1860/70... Saline Co 1860 Census By John V Murphy Galatia P.O. 20 June 1860 155 PULLEM, Abner C. 36 m TN Sarah E 18 or 28 f TN Sarah B 2 f IL James H 6/12 m IL TATE, John B 28 m TN 156 TATE, William T 23 m TN 159 TATE, Robert A. 56 m KY Julia S. 53 f NC Daniel F. 21 m TN Cary 20 f TN Rebecca 18 f TN Ann 16 f TN Saline Co 1870 Census By Bernard W. Moore Tate Twp. 106/106 TATE, Wm. 29 m TN Amanda 25 f TN Thomas M. 10 m IL Elizabeth F. 8 f IL Mary A. 6 f IL Wm. A. 4 m IL Chas. M. 2 m IL Thomas Marshall Tate's obit says born 1 Oct 1860 in Ham. Co (notice the date on the 1860 census page above).... > > Wm. T. Tate is a 23 yr old in the 1860. There is a Wm. J. Tate b. 1820 in > > TN married to a Mariah A. 36 yrs old b. TN They lived in Galatia Postal > > district. > > They had 9 children do you think this might be the one you're researching? This WM J Tate is this one.... Descendants of Rev. William J. Tate 1 Rev. William J. TATE b: 1820 in TN d: 1895 in Saline? Co., IL Burial: Tate Chapel, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL .. +Mary (Mariah?) Ann WINN b: 1824 in TN m: 22 Sep, 1841 in Gallatin/Saline Co., IL. ........... 2 Lucy J. TATE b: Abt. 1842 in IL ........... 2 Jasper N. TATE b: Abt. 1844 in IL ........... 2 Elizabeth L. TATE b: Abt. 1846 in IL ........... 2 William Gillispie TATE b: Abt. 1848 in IL d: Bef. 1870 in Saline Co., IL Burial: Tate Chapel, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL ........... 2 David TATE b: Abt. 1850 in IL ........... 2 Emily H. TATE b: Abt. 1852 in IL ........... 2 Mary C. TATE b: Abt. 1855 in IL ........... 2 Lydia R. TATE b: Jan 1857 in Saline? Co., IL d: 02 Apr, 1897 in Saline? Co., IL ............... +James Hubbard KENNEDY b: 1859 in Saline Co., IL m: 09 Jun, 1878 in Saline Co,. IL. Father: Martin V. KENNEDY Mother: Catherine H. CARTER ........... 2 George W. TATE b: 1859 in Saline Co., IL d: 1948 in Unknown Burial: Tate's Chapel, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL ............... +Amanda E. BOLDIN b: 1855 in Saline Co., IL m: 16 Dec, 1880 in Saline Co,. IL. - By W. H. Hall, J.P. d: 1933 in Unknown Burial: Tate's Chapel, Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL Father: Richard BOLDIN Mother: Rebecca PEEPLES ......................... 3 Lora Dulcia TATE b: 15 Nov, 1883 in Tate Twp., Saline Co., IL ........... 2 Julia Ann TATE b: Abt. 1862 in IL ............... +John Marshel HARRIS b: Abt. 1859 in Saline Co., IL m: 24 Nov, 1880 in Saline Co,. IL. Father: Alexander "Sandy" HARRIS Mother: Rachel J. TATE Best Regards, Trev

Steve, are you temping me to say something that I would dearly love to say? Remember, your in the hills now not the big city. Norm

I don't know if it is JUST me or everyone, BUT, whenever someone posts a message and follows it with the MSN.explorer browser tag, my mail endss up all gibberish. Is ANYONE else having this problem ? It ONLY happens after a message with that tag. For some reason, it destroys all the spacing etc in the text and it all runs together. Driving me CRAZIER then I was before !!! If it is NOT just me, I would greatly appreciate it if people would stop using that tag in their posts. IF just me, then PLEASE let me know !! THANKS Steve sspunk@aol.com ps GLAD to see Keisue back again !! BEST to all

Jim There is Douglas Cemetery on Rt. 142 about 4 or 5 miles North of Eldorado, on the way to Broughton. The cemetery is about 2 miles east (which is to your right) when you are driving North on the hiway,. and there is still a church there.

Sue, I am looking for William T. Tate born about 1818, his wife Amanda Simmons born 1820. They had two boys that I know of, Marshall born 1860, William Allen born 1866. I would like to know where they give as a birth place. Thanks for your help. Jim KEIsue@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > > Wm. T. Tate is a 23 yr old in the 1860. There is a Wm. J. Tate b. 1820 in > TN married to a Mariah A. 36 yrs old b. TN They lived in Galatia Postal > district. > They had 9 children do you think this might be the one you're researching? > > Sue > FL

Jim There are quite a few William Tate's. Could you give me his wife's name? Pat Patricia Mitchell Joliet, IL Researching: HUTSON/PYLE/EDWARDS/NUNN/PICKERING/SISK/MILLER/MITCHELL and others too numerous to mention

Hi, Wm. T. Tate is a 23 yr old in the 1860. There is a Wm. J. Tate b. 1820 in TN married to a Mariah A. 36 yrs old b. TN They lived in Galatia Postal district. They had 9 children do you think this might be the one you're researching? Sue FL

I don't, but there is a lady who helped me on another question. Maybe she would you. Her name is "Char" and her address is char1@midwest.net Ernie

Thank you, Cheri. Will try to find it the next time I am down that way. Peace. Bill Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheri Carr-Courson" <cheri@adams.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] GRIFFIN-question > William > The Rice Cemetery is located just north if Harrisburg, Saline County, > Illinois off of US Hwy 45 in the township of Cottage > Cheri > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Johnson" <padrewc@home.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] GRIFFIN-question > > > > Do you have any information as to the location of the Rice cementery? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cheri Carr-Courson" <cheri@adams.net> > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 7:18 PM > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] GRIFFIN-question > > > > > > > There is a Lady buried in the Rice Cemetery in Saline County, Illinois > > that the Rice researchers have tried to identify as our 2nd > > great-grandmother but even the State Archives and Saline County have no > > information on her. It is said that almost everyone interned there is Rice > > related. > > > > > > The stone has > > > ELIZABETH GRIFFIN > > > b. 31 June 1812 > > > d. 7 September 1887 > > > > > > In Franklin County, Tennessee Elizabeth Rice (2nd great-grandmother) > after > > the death of our 2nd Great-grandfather, she married a William > > Griffin/Griffith. Both surnames have been used. My question is if any of > the > > Griffin researchers can supply me with information on the identity of this > > Lady. > > > > > > Cheri Carr-Courson > > > cheri@adams.net > > > Quincy, Illinois > > > http://leavesoftime.homestead.com/clc.html > > > > > > > >

James, Bill forgot one. There's the Wesleyan Methodist Church Cem. north and east off U.S. 45. Our grandfather, T.D. Morris is there. Ernie

William The Rice Cemetery is located just north if Harrisburg, Saline County, Illinois off of US Hwy 45 in the township of Cottage Cheri ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Johnson" <padrewc@home.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] GRIFFIN-question > Do you have any information as to the location of the Rice cementery? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cheri Carr-Courson" <cheri@adams.net> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 7:18 PM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] GRIFFIN-question > > > > There is a Lady buried in the Rice Cemetery in Saline County, Illinois > that the Rice researchers have tried to identify as our 2nd > great-grandmother but even the State Archives and Saline County have no > information on her. It is said that almost everyone interned there is Rice > related. > > > > The stone has > > ELIZABETH GRIFFIN > > b. 31 June 1812 > > d. 7 September 1887 > > > > In Franklin County, Tennessee Elizabeth Rice (2nd great-grandmother) after > the death of our 2nd Great-grandfather, she married a William > Griffin/Griffith. Both surnames have been used. My question is if any of the > Griffin researchers can supply me with information on the identity of this > Lady. > > > > Cheri Carr-Courson > > cheri@adams.net > > Quincy, Illinois > > http://leavesoftime.homestead.com/clc.html > > > >

Thanks Ernie. Jim At 10:23 PM 2/25/01 -0500, you wrote: >I don't, but there is a lady who helped me on another question. Maybe she >would you. Her name is "Char" and her address is char1@midwest.net > >Ernie > >

Toni: Thnaks for the info on the Bixler School. Hope you find the brochure. Would like to read it. I don't believe Janet is relation, if that is the same Janet Bixler still in Eldorado. I thought the school was closed long before the 1950's. Johnny Bond

Wiliam Hicks: One of the names you are searching I see is Womack. Would that be any relation to William Womack of Eldorado, married my great aunt Nancy Bixler. He was the constable for quite a while. From Tennessee. Johnny Bond

I dont, but mabye some others may. Jim At 08:55 PM 2/25/01 -0600, you wrote: >Do you have any information as to the location of the Rice cementery? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cheri Carr-Courson" <cheri@adams.net> >To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 7:18 PM >Subject: [ILSALINE-L] GRIFFIN-question > > >> There is a Lady buried in the Rice Cemetery in Saline County, Illinois >that the Rice researchers have tried to identify as our 2nd >great-grandmother but even the State Archives and Saline County have no >information on her. It is said that almost everyone interned there is Rice >related. >> >> The stone has >> ELIZABETH GRIFFIN >> b. 31 June 1812 >> d. 7 September 1887 >> >> In Franklin County, Tennessee Elizabeth Rice (2nd great-grandmother) after >the death of our 2nd Great-grandfather, she married a William >Griffin/Griffith. Both surnames have been used. My question is if any of the >Griffin researchers can supply me with information on the identity of this >Lady. >> >> Cheri Carr-Courson >> cheri@adams.net >> Quincy, Illinois >> http://leavesoftime.homestead.com/clc.html >> > >

My memory is not like I had when I was young, but he told me that it was Around Broughton, that there was two cemeteries in that area, but one had the Charles Baker in it. At 09:47 PM 2/25/01 -0500, you wrote: >James, > Bill forgot one. There's the Wesleyan Methodist Church Cem. north and east >off U.S. 45. Our grandfather, T.D. Morris is there. > >Ernie > >