Charlie A. Baker was born in 1867 and Died in 1930. His wife, Samantha Nations was born Feb 9, 1867 and she died in 1942. On my friends grandmothers side. His gg GF name was Leonard Ward. He was born in White County near Stealeys Water Mill on July 1, 1836. He married Tabather Graham on Oct 14, 1857. They gave birth to Darwin Beecher Ward on Sept 5, 1867. He married Ella Lamp in Carmi, Ill. Lonard Wards parents were Josiah and Lucy Ward. I am trying to locate these people for my Friend Darrell Baker who lives in WV. Does any of this ring any bells? The information that he had is Charlie was buried in a Cemetery located near Broughton. There was two cemeteries close together and you had to go by one to get to the other. That is all the information that he had. Thanks. Jim At 04:36 PM 3/11/01 -0500, you wrote: >There's no Charles at Baker Cemetery. Do you have an approximate date of >birth or death? > >Donna >----- Original Message ----- >From: James R. Griffin Sr. <jrgsr@shawneelink.net> >To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:48 PM >Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Cemetery lookup > > >> Does anyone have a cemetery book that covers the Baker cemetery in >> Saline county to see if a Charles or Charlie A. Baker is buried there. >> Thanks.Jim >> > > >

To have something like a message board to handle all of the message traffic that is generated? I get up to 100 pieces of mail from this group a week. Would not a message board be a better way to go to reduce the amount of email that is sent constantly? Vpurvis

Hello, Looking for information on the family of Dr. Julius BOYLE (1838-1924) and wife Mary Ellen COX (1846-1904). He was the son of Hugh Boyle. They were married in 1865 and originally from Posey Co. IN but moved to Saline co. Children: Ida b. 1866, md. D.W.D. Drake in 1891 Grace Augusta md. E.E. Holloway in 1893 Lulu md. D.P. Bennett Laura md. Gus Friend Maude b. 1885, md. Milt McLean in 1904 Julia b. 1887, md. Oliver Caudle Charles Eugene Any info would be greatly appreciated-thanks for your help! Melinda Roles Jacquier

Hello, I am looking for info on the family of J.L. ALLEN and Ida Mae COX who were married in Saline co. in 1893. J.L. (do not know full name) was born in 1859 to Richard and Eliza (Dewers) Allen. Don't know if they had children or not. Ida Mae supposidly married 2nd John T. WOODS and had a daughter Ona WOODS. Any information about this family would be appreciated-thank you for any help! Melinda Roles Jacquier in Long Beach, CA

Hello, I am looking for information on the family of Job CLEVELAND (1824-1904) and wife Elizabeth Ann White (1824-1870). I have 3 children for them: Francis Marion born 1846/7, md. Susan Odum in 1866 in Saline Co. Mary E. born 1852/3 Catherine born 20 Jan 1855, md. Daniel Stuart in 1872 in White Co children: Oscar b. 1885 Walter b. 1890 Any more info would be appreciated. Thank you as always. Melinda Roles Jacquier in Long Beach, CA

Here in Texas, they removed two bronze placards with the Confederate flag embedded from the Austin, Texas capitol buildings while George W. Bush was still Governor. It was after the SC incident. There was a mild protest after it was done. No one knew that it was going to be done. It was not voted on. People in charge just removed the placards. Georgia has now redone its state flag to remove the embedded Confederate flag. The only remaining state where the Confederate flag remains embedded is Mississippi. This is the same problem as Squaw. The indians say that it means prostitute, and they want it removed from names across the nation. An example is Squaw Valley. Many areas have already changed the name. Hal Ledbetter Livingston TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Scott" <mary849@webtv.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 7:38 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Fwd: Re: Civil War Pension Records > I cried the day they lowered the Confederate Flagg in SC and now in Ga. > 51, 000. died at Gettysburg.(same as Vietnam). 12 family members died on the > Confederate side. > Over 253,000. died in the Civil war from both sides. Brother against > brother, an anglo-war in America. Yet , it is played down do to "Political > correctness". > Barbara Boxer and Feinsten are not the answer-- they are the problem.... > They represent a very dumbed down America, write to War Veteran members od > Congress and the Senate.. > The reason we are denied the knowledge of facts and history is due to > Political Correctness . > Hug A Vet!, > Steven > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cyrille Doutherd <cdoutherd@juno.com> > To: <BeckyPiper1@worldnet.att.net> > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:27 PM > Subject: Re: Civil War Pension Records > > > > Steven: > > > > Thank you for the info. I just e-mailed Barbara Boxer and Diane > > Feinstein with my message of NARA's ills. In summary, I mentioned the > > opportunities this agency is missing in generated money. By not > > cataloguing, listing, and using technological advances to bring these > > historical treasures to the genealogy, library, and educational > > communities is very short-sighted for the future. 200 years of history > > sitting in a warehouse is not where these treasures should be! > > > > Anyway, maybe tomorrow I'll write a couple more senators in another > > state. > > > > Thanks again for the quickie info. > > Cyrille

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--WebTV-Mail-13265-512 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-13265-512 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-102-5.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.31) by storefull-177.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-102-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id CD8991E0; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:45:46 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: mary849@webtv.net Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by smtpin-102-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 181481F7; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f2D2hBZ08862; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:43:11 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:43:11 -0700 X-Original-Sender: BeckyPiper1@worldnet.att.net Mon Mar 12 19:43:11 2001 Message-ID: <007301c0ab5f$83813620$46a94b0c@default> From: "Steven Piper Piper" <BeckyPiper1@worldnet.att.net> Old-To: "Cyrille Doutherd" <cdoutherd@juno.com>, <INHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com>, <INFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com>, <INMARSHA-L@rootsweb.com>, <StLouis-MO-L@rootsweb.com>, <MOGREENE-L@rootsweb.com>, <MOMARIES-L@rootsweb.com>, <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> References: <20010312.182735.-163847.1.CDoutherd@juno.com> Subject: Re: Civil War Pension Records Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:46:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <QKaq6.A.DKC._kYr6@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: INMARSHA-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: INMARSHA-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <INMARSHA-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/27 X-Loop: INMARSHA-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: INMARSHA-L-request@rootsweb.com I cried the day they lowered the Confederate Flagg in SC and now in Ga. 51, 000. died at Gettysburg.(same as Vietnam). 12 family members died on the Confederate side. Over 253,000. died in the Civil war from both sides. Brother against brother, an anglo-war in America. Yet , it is played down do to "Political correctness". Barbara Boxer and Feinsten are not the answer-- they are the problem.... They represent a very dumbed down America, write to War Veteran members od Congress and the Senate.. The reason we are denied the knowledge of facts and history is due to Political Correctness . Hug A Vet!, Steven ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyrille Doutherd <cdoutherd@juno.com> To: <BeckyPiper1@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Civil War Pension Records > Steven: > > Thank you for the info. I just e-mailed Barbara Boxer and Diane > Feinstein with my message of NARA's ills. In summary, I mentioned the > opportunities this agency is missing in generated money. By not > cataloguing, listing, and using technological advances to bring these > historical treasures to the genealogy, library, and educational > communities is very short-sighted for the future. 200 years of history > sitting in a warehouse is not where these treasures should be! > > Anyway, maybe tomorrow I'll write a couple more senators in another > state. > > Thanks again for the quickie info. > Cyrille > ============================== Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! http://searches.rootsweb.com/ --WebTV-Mail-13265-512--

I'm looking for information on Martin Alexander Edwards b. 12/23/1847 in Tennessee, died 3/12/1923 in Galatia, IL and his wife Emily A. Roper b. 2/19/1848 in Tennessee and died 12/17/1884 in Galatia, IL. Martin and Emily had the following children: Irenea (1869-1889) Sophia (1871-?) Cora (1874-1912) Oscar Arno (1876-1948) Hiram Alexander (1878-?) Sarah Ann (1880-?) S.M. (1881-1884) Stella (1883-1884) After Emily's death Martin married a Kelton or Skelton. His third wife was a Travelstead, Renie/Lanie/Lena? Anyone researching any of these names? Kate Rodenbach <krodenbach@hotmail.com> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Mary, I don't have those names, but thanks for looking...Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Scott <mary849@webtv.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Wiggins.John > Sorry I don't see Annie's name here. But the main reason for that is > that the name we pulled up on "Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - > 1900" was Simpson there was a Rosaltha Wggins and Benamin F. Simpson > married Saline Co 2-3-1876 > Does that help you? > >

Mary, Do you have an ANNIE WIGGINS who married John Peter Stone? They were a Saline Co., IL. family. Their known children were: 1. Sarah "Sally" Stone born 1 July 1812 married Joshua Abney born Dec. 1807 (my GG grandparents) 2. John Peter Stone Jr. born 1818 3. Evangeline Stone 4. Henry Stone 5. Elizabeth Stone 6. Mildred Stone 7. George W. Stone 8. Calvin Stone 9. Susan Stone 10. John V. Stone I would love information on the Wiggins family. Just the name ANNIE WIGGINS is all I have...Thanks so much...Betty Pickens Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Scott <mary849@webtv.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Wiggins.John > Hello: > I have gone over and over the information on the Wiggins family to make > sure I didn't miss the names I'm looking for. Here are the names. > C. E. Wiggings and wife Louise > Here's why I'm researching them C E. Wiggins signed as a wittness on a > marriage certificate of George W. Hanselman of Eldorado and Mollie M. > Simpson of North Fork date 8-10-1902 > Can you help with these folks? > Also > Your name being Eubanks: I've been researching the for Finis Eubanks > who married Sallie Simpson, Saline County 1-6-1901 > Is there any connection with your family? > Thanks for ANY help you can give me. > You can respond directly to me by e-mail > mary849@WebTV.net Thanks >

Sorry I don't see Annie's name here. But the main reason for that is that the name we pulled up on "Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900" was Simpson there was a Rosaltha Wggins and Benamin F. Simpson married Saline Co 2-3-1876 Does that help you?

Hello: I have gone over and over the information on the Wiggins family to make sure I didn't miss the names I'm looking for. Here are the names. C. E. Wiggings and wife Louise Here's why I'm researching them C E. Wiggins signed as a wittness on a marriage certificate of George W. Hanselman of Eldorado and Mollie M. Simpson of North Fork date 8-10-1902 Can you help with these folks? Also Your name being Eubanks: I've been researching the for Finis Eubanks who married Sallie Simpson, Saline County 1-6-1901 Is there any connection with your family? Thanks for ANY help you can give me. You can respond directly to me by e-mail mary849@WebTV.net Thanks

Whoever sent the info on Strut Jones buried in Ingram Hill Cemetery, thank-you very much. Has to be him, birth date is right. Again - THANKS, Johnny Bond

At Ingram Hill Cem., Saline Co., IL there is JONES, Mary 1 June 1867 - 17 Oct 1948 Strut 19 Aug 1857 - 12 Oct 1933 Listed in Cemeteries, Saline Co., IL VOL 1 On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:47:56 EST BondJB@aol.com writes: > Would anyone be able to find when a Strutton Jones of Eldorado died? > He was > from Cottage Grove and married my dads aunt Nancy Bixler in 1887. > They > divorced in 1897. Was trying to find when he died. Thanks, Johnny > Bond > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Would anyone be able to find when a Strutton Jones of Eldorado died? He was from Cottage Grove and married my dads aunt Nancy Bixler in 1887. They divorced in 1897. Was trying to find when he died. Thanks, Johnny Bond

Hi Carla, Well this one is "close and almost" as they say. I don't know how many unrelated Morris families there were in Saline County, but I have one. There's no Sarah, that I know of. My maternal grandfather, Thomas D. Morris, was in Eldorado in 1858. His father, John F., was born in Lincoln County,Tenn. in 1829. His father came from N.C. by way of Lincoln County, Tenn. But I guess that fits a lot of pioneers in those days. John's older sister, Mary Morris b 1828. It gets confusing. Have question let me know. Ernie Heltsley/Tucson/ex-Eldoradoan/native Ky.

Is anyone on the Gallatin or Saline Co. lists researching the settlers who came to this area before 1810? I descend from Hankerson Rude who settled by 1810 as one of his sons was born in IL in 1810. I am trying to determine exactly when Hankerson Rude arrived, where he came from, and with which other families he traveled. In several history books it is said that some early settlers came from Mt. Airy, Tennessee. The surnames listed as being these settlers from Mt. Airy, TN, were JORDAN, ESTES, and RUDE. However, this is in conflict with the research done on Chism Estes and published in the book, "Following the Chism Estes Trail" by Doris Nelson. Based on Warren Co., KY, tax records and the fact that Chism Estes purchased land there in 1804, Chism Estes lived in Warren Co., KY, as did his in-laws the Jordans. They did not live in Mt. Airy, TN. Nothing in the book makes a connection between the Estes family and Mt. Airy, TN. Doris Nelson's opinion was that other early settlers had come from Mt. Airy, NC (not TN). Per the book, the Jordans and Chism Estes came to southern Illinois in 1806; for sure they were there in 1807 as their names appear on an 1807 list of squatters which Ms. Nelson has in her book. Hankerson Rude is not on the 1807 list; thus, I do not think he traveled with the Chism Estes-Francis Jordan group of 1806. However, Ms. Nelson does say that Chism Estes' brother Absalom Estes left Warren Co., KY, and settled "around 1810", but she did not expand on Absalom's settlement and did not refer to any families traveling with him. It is possible that the authors of the history book got Chism and Absalom Estes confused, and that Hankerson RUDE came with Absalom Estes some time between 1808-1810. I descend from Hankerson Rude's daughter Phoebe who was born in KY c. 1805-06. I do not know where she was born in KY. If Hankerson Rude followed Chism Estes to Illinois or came to Illinois with his brother, Hankerson likely lived in or near Warren Co. -- and not in TN. Has anyone on the list researched settlers before 1810? Can you advice me on where I should be looking for pre-statehood records for this area? Would it be the State Archives? If so, what record groups and can I access them by mail? Any help would be appreciated. -- Helen Graves

Danny, Don't know about the first book mentioned, but the 2nd one is on a list of the books that are available thru the Saline Co. Gen. Soc. They're located in downtown Harrisburg. I've been there, but am not familiar with street names. Just ask someone in the area. Very nice folks in Harrisburg, as well as at the Gen. Soc. The book is $35 if picked up - $40 if mailed. You could ask them about the book on Raleigh. They might know where it can be purchased. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: Danny Redmond <dredmond@san.rr.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] History of Raleigh, Illinois 1847-1979 > Does anyone know where I can buy the following book: > > History of Raleigh, Illinois 1847-1979 > by Georgia James > > Additionally, I will be traveling to Saline County next week for the very > first time and I was wondering if there was a location where I can buy the > following book while I'm there: > > The History of Saline County (1847-1947) > Saline Genealogical Society, Harrisburg, IL > > Thanks! > > Danny Redmond > San Diego, CA > dredmond@san.rr.com > >

There's no Charles at Baker Cemetery. Do you have an approximate date of birth or death? Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: James R. Griffin Sr. <jrgsr@shawneelink.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:48 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Cemetery lookup > Does anyone have a cemetery book that covers the Baker cemetery in > Saline county to see if a Charles or Charlie A. Baker is buried there. > Thanks.Jim >