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    1. Re: [ILSALINE-L] YATES family
    2. I forgot to mention that Uncle Albert Yates and wife lived in West Frankfort, IL Myrta

    03/30/2001 04:35:48
    1. Re: [ILSALINE-L] YATES family
    2. I had an Uncle Albert Yates who was married to Laura (Robblin) Yates. Any one know this person? Myrta Hamilton Hessley

    03/30/2001 04:34:58
    1. Re: [ILSALINE-L] YATES family
    2. Melinda E Jacquier
    3. On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:56:01 -0600 "William Johnson" <padrewc@home.com> writes: > The Pinnell from Eldorado was named Elmo. His wife was Jane. They > were > friends of my folks. Elmo lived in Joliet, Il, for awhile, I think, > and was > a guard at one of the prisons there. > > > Ex-Eldoradoan. > > William G. Johnson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <HELTSLEY@aol.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 10:13 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] YATES family > > > > I used to know Kenny Yates, Howard Yates, and a Pinnell in Beulah > Heights > in > > Eldorado in the early'50s. Are they of the same group? I played > pool and > > worked at the movie houses. Are those guys related to the ones you > are > > looking for? Any of those still around? > > Ernie Heltsley/Tucson/ex-Eldoradoan > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    03/29/2001 11:16:28
    1. Re: [ILSALINE-L] YATES family
    2. Melinda E Jacquier
    3. Ernie, I don't know the first name of the Mr. Yates who married my cousin Ollie Pinnell. She had brothers named Walter Henry, Earnest and Otis Horace and a sister named Edna who married a Mr. Hankins then Lester Ballard. I had heard that Ollie and Mr. Yates moved out here to southern CA and were here by the 1950's. Melinda On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:13:43 EST HELTSLEY@aol.com writes: > I used to know Kenny Yates, Howard Yates, and a Pinnell in Beulah > Heights in > Eldorado in the early'50s. Are they of the same group? I played pool > and > worked at the movie houses. Are those guys related to the ones you > are > looking for? Any of those still around? > Ernie Heltsley/Tucson/ex-Eldoradoan > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    03/29/2001 11:10:44
    1. Re: [ILSALINE-L] YATES family
    2. I used to know Kenny Yates, Howard Yates, and a Pinnell in Beulah Heights in Eldorado in the early'50s. Are they of the same group? I played pool and worked at the movie houses. Are those guys related to the ones you are looking for? Any of those still around? Ernie Heltsley/Tucson/ex-Eldoradoan

    03/28/2001 04:13:43
    1. Re: [ILSALINE-L] YATES family
    2. William Johnson
    3. The Pinnell from Eldorado was named Elmo. His wife was Jane. They were friends of my folks. Elmo lived in Joliet, Il, for awhile, I think, and was a guard at one of the prisons there. Ex-Eldoradoan. William G. Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: <HELTSLEY@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] YATES family > I used to know Kenny Yates, Howard Yates, and a Pinnell in Beulah Heights in > Eldorado in the early'50s. Are they of the same group? I played pool and > worked at the movie houses. Are those guys related to the ones you are > looking for? Any of those still around? > Ernie Heltsley/Tucson/ex-Eldoradoan > > >

    03/28/2001 03:56:01
    1. [ILSALINE-L] YATES family
    2. Melinda E Jacquier
    3. Hello, Wonder if any YATES researchers know anything about the following YATES: Nellie Yates md. Charles Eaton in 1920 in Saline co. Charles was born in 1901 son of Caswell and Jennie (Stallings) Eaton. I don't have any dates on Nellie or her parents or any children for them. Mr. ___?______ Yates md Ollie Pinnell. She was born in 1887 to Andrew and Rosa (Cox) Pinnell. Thanks for any help! Melinda Roles Jacquier ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    03/28/2001 11:26:56
    1. [ILSALINE-L] YATES
    2. Does anyone connect with Alexander YATES who married Minisota DUNN 16 March 1873 in Saline Co.? Minisota the daughter (or possibly granddaughter) of Joseph & Lucinda DUNN. Kay Davidson Westminster, CO

    03/27/2001 02:38:46
    1. [ILSALINE-L] McDermott / Winkleman Hill Question
    2. sue
    3. Hello, I have a Death Obit for James McDermott that says he died on Winkleman Hill in Saline Co. 1907 Would anyone happen to know where Winkleman Hill was located. Thanks.. Sue M. Researching: Clark, Lathrop, McDermott, Bush, Slaton. ICQ# 63111122 suem@shawneelink.com

    03/26/2001 02:10:42
    1. Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: 1850/1860 Gallatin Co Census lookup please...
    2. 1860 Gallatin Co. Census P.O. Equality 2 Aug 1860 KEATON Joel 32 Mary J. 30 William H. 12 M Barbara A. 8 F Nancy J. 5 F Abraham M. 4 M Francis 2 M KRONK, Martha 16 Neighbors: 1088 Morris Stewart family 1089 Charles Stewart family 1090 Joel Keaton family 1091 John Shreve family 1092 Isodore Devous family Joel is the only Keaton in gallatin County 1860 census. Hope this helps Pat

    03/26/2001 04:32:52
    1. [ILSALINE-L] Re: 1850/1860 Gallatin Co Census lookup please...
    2. Trev
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrell Wesley <darrellwes@home.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 16 March, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] 1850/1860 Gallatin Co Census lookup please... > > I also need the household in 1860 for Joel KEATON. The P.O. is Equality... > > > > Would also like to have the surname of the family immediatly before and > after this household.... Thanks peoples... I forgot about that 1850:-).... does anyone have the 1860 that can give me this household above?? Thanks in advance Best Regards, Trev

    03/25/2001 02:26:11
    1. Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: Clark/Gaither/Kelley
    2. Judie Boone
    3. Trev, Thanks so much, Boy am I glad were twigs on on some of the same trees, You always come through for me : ) I have that Willis later married "Aunt Paradine". Have pictures of Willis with both his first and second wife. Later, Judie Trev wrote: > > 1 Silas Thomas GAITHER > > .. +Mary Mirinda CLARK b: Abt. 1842 in TN Father: James J. CLARK Mother: > > Elizabeth BREWER > > BTW....Mary Marinda's parents names, came from her 2nd marriage below.... > > Descendants of James J. Clark > > 1 James J. CLARK > . +Elizabeth BREWER > .... 2 [1] Mary Mirinda CLARK b: Abt. 1842 in TN > ........ +Silas Thomas GAITHER > .... *2nd Husband of [1] Mary Mirinda Clark: > ........ +James M ING b: Abt. 1860 in Franklin Co., IL m: 09 Mar, 1881 in > Franklin Co. IL. Father: Mathew ING Mother: Nancy? BRILEY -- ================================= Surnames: Burkhart-Gossage-Hardwick-Hart-Mifflin-Southard-Swann-Rainey-Robertson - http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/o/Judith-A-Boone/index.html http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/plains/8463/index.html Judie Swann Boone - jboone@nightowl.net 26 Vanguard St Peters, MO 63376 - USA

    03/24/2001 07:06:27
    1. [ILSALINE-L] Look-ups
    2. Mary Scott
    3. Can anyone tell me if there were City Directories in the year of 1902 for Saline Co. And also does anone have access to a News Paper Lookup in Eldorado for the year of 1902- 1903. Just trying to take my brick wall down. Thanks. Mary

    03/22/2001 11:59:49
    1. [ILSALINE-L] Clarks
    2. Rose
    3. I saw someone asking about a Mary M. CLARK and I was wondering if anyone has stumbled across a Mary Melissa CLARK b. abt 1847, married William G. PRATHER. I would love to find out who her parents where. Debbie rose@ccountry.net

    03/22/2001 11:18:59
    1. [ILSALINE-L] help needed MORRIS on 1900 census
    2. joyce link
    3. Hi Does anyone have a 1900 saline Census Looking for this Family William Morris age in the 50's wife Nancy A W(HALEY) about 50 also could anyone check the Probates of Saline Co for the William Morris( son of James Morris and Jane Cole) death after 1890 Thanks for any help on this Family. Joyce

    03/21/2001 11:42:02
    1. [ILSALINE-L] Re: Clark/Gaither/Kelley
    2. Trev
    3. > 1 Silas Thomas GAITHER > .. +Mary Mirinda CLARK b: Abt. 1842 in TN Father: James J. CLARK Mother: > Elizabeth BREWER BTW....Mary Marinda's parents names, came from her 2nd marriage below.... Descendants of James J. Clark 1 James J. CLARK . +Elizabeth BREWER .... 2 [1] Mary Mirinda CLARK b: Abt. 1842 in TN ........ +Silas Thomas GAITHER .... *2nd Husband of [1] Mary Mirinda Clark: ........ +James M ING b: Abt. 1860 in Franklin Co., IL m: 09 Mar, 1881 in Franklin Co. IL. Father: Mathew ING Mother: Nancy? BRILEY

    03/21/2001 01:17:17
    1. [ILSALINE-L] Re: Clark/Gaither/Kelley
    2. Trev
    3. > Does anyone have information on this Clark-Gaither Connecton > Descendants of Gerdin Clark > > 1 Gerdin CLARK > 2 Rendi CLARK > --- +? GAITHER > - 3 Cordelia "Delia" GAITHER b: 3/06/1865 d: 3/06/1915 > ----- +Willis KELLY b: 12/29/1861 d: 7/31/1941 Father: John Kelly > Mother: Elizabeth Hall Hi Judie, In Delia's marriage to Willis, She says she is a resident of Thompsonville, IL (Franklin Co), and says her mother is Marinda Clark (father not shown).... I would bet she is the d/o Silas Thomas Gaither & Mary Marinda Clark, see below... Descendants of Silas Thomas Gaither 1 Silas Thomas GAITHER .. +Mary Mirinda CLARK b: Abt. 1842 in TN Father: James J. CLARK Mother: Elizabeth BREWER ........... 2 [1] Christopher Columbus GAITHER b: Abt. 1858 in Cave Twp., Franklin Co., IL d: Aft. 11 Sep, 1944 in Uknown ............... +Isabella ADAMS b: Abt. 1855 in Benton, Franklin Co., IL m: 11 Jul, 1878 in Franklin Co. IL. Father: Thomas ADAMS Mother: Susan SULLENS ......................... 3 Dora May GAITHER b: 11 May, 1878 in Eastern Twp., Franklin Co., IL ........... *2nd Wife of [1] Christopher Columbus Gaither: ............... +Mary Jane SUMMERS b: Abt. 1861 in Uknown m: 08 Feb, 1883 in Franklin Co. IL. Father: Hiram? SUMMERS Mother: Sarah? Jane JONES ......................... 3 [2] Mamie Florence GAITHER b: 18 Jun, 1887 in Franklin Co., IL. d: 21 Jul, 1973 in Franklin Co., IL. ............................. +? BIRD ......................... *2nd Husband of [2] Mamie Florence Gaither: ............................. +Otto A. DAVIS b: 23 Jan, 1882 in Hamilton Co., IL m: 08 Mar, 1906 in Franklin County, IL. d: 18 Nov, 1963 in Maxwell, Iowa Father: James Isaac DAVIS Mother: Margaret "Maggie" EVANS ...................................... 4 Guy Cornelius DAVIS b: 23 Jun, 1907 in IL ...................................... 4 Fleeta DAVIS .......................................... +? COFFER ......................... 3 Ernest Floyd GAITHER b: 28 Sep, 1891 ......................... 3 Silas GAITHER ...................................... 4 Oscar GAITHER .......................................... +Unita BRAKE Father: W. R. BRAKE .................................................... 5 Oscar Eugene GAITHER b: 30 Jun, 1942 in Jefferson Co., IL d: 29 Dec, 1943 in Uknown Burial: Knob Prairie Cem., Eastern Twp., Franklin Co., IL .................................................... 5 Bobby Gene GAITHER d: 1935 in Uknown .................................................... 5 Lauretta Fern GAITHER .................................................... 5 Betty Dean GAITHER .................................................... 5 Nina Jane GAITHER .................................................... 5 Madge Marie GAITHER .................................................... 5 Lena Faye GAITHER .................................................... 5 Dora Mae GAITHER ........... 2 [3] John Riley GAITHER b: Abt. 1861 in Perry (from marr. record) Co., IL ............... +Cordelia SWEET b: Abt. 1862 in Franklin Co., IL m: 18 Mar, 1884 in Franklin Co. IL. (She Filed for divorce, Oct 1885) d: 02 Jan, 1891 in Franklin Co., IL Father: Dennis SWEET Mother: Mary MCCLEARIN ......................... 3 Unknown GAITHER ......................... 3 Unknown GAITHER ......................... 3 Unknown GAITHER ......................... 3 Unknown GAITHER ........... *2nd Wife of [3] John Riley Gaither: ............... +Sarilda HEARD b: Abt. 1873 in Hamilton Co., IL m: 09 Oct, 1892 in Franklin Co. IL. Father: Jesse H. HEARD Mother: Eliza A. MURPHY ........... 2 Paralee GAITHER b: Abt. 1870 in Franklin Co., IL ............... +Wilson SUMMERS b: Abt. 1870 in Franklin Co., IL m: 31 Oct, 1890 in Franklin Co. IL. (He Filed for divorce, Apr 1894 and granted 17 May 1894) Father: Eli SUMMERS Mother: Narcissa M. SUMMERS I'm sure you'll find allot more in the Franklin Co census records for Cave and Maybe Eastern twp's. There was also a Gaither family (Ebenezer & wife, Miranda) in the Saline 1870 census of Brushy Twp. (this is next door to Cave) which may be a sib to Silas Thomas (I didn't see them in 1860 or 80).... My connection is the Davis/Gaither marriage above. If you ever find more descendents on those two, please yell.... :-) Best Regards, cuzn (almost twice:-) Trev

    03/21/2001 01:02:03
    1. [ILSALINE-L] Clark/Gaither/Kelley
    2. Judie Boone
    3. Does anyone have information on this Clark-Gaither Connecton Descendants of Gerdin Clark 1 Gerdin CLARK 2 Rendi CLARK --- +? GAITHER - 3 Cordelia "Delia" GAITHER b: 3/06/1865 d: 3/06/1915 ----- +Willis KELLY b: 12/29/1861 d: 7/31/1941 Father: John Kelly Mother: Elizabeth Hall -- ================================= Judie Swann Boone - jboone@nightowl.net 26 Vanguard St Peters, MO 63376 - USA

    03/20/2001 12:11:16
    1. Fw: [ILSALINE-L] IL County Boundaries
    2. William Johnson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darlene Mary Hofer" <ehofer@internetwork.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:36 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] IL County Boundaries > I just found this wonderful site online that is very helpful to our > genealogy research. The maps of the counties of IL from 1790 to > present. > Darlene in TX > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilcumber/ilctybnd/ > >

    03/19/2001 01:11:34
    1. [ILSALINE-L] IL County Boundaries
    2. Darlene Mary Hofer
    3. I just found this wonderful site online that is very helpful to our genealogy research. The maps of the counties of IL from 1790 to present. Darlene in TX http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilcumber/ilctybnd/

    03/19/2001 12:36:29