Your nickname woudn't be "Rocky"in Tucson, would it? We have a rather prominent sports figure in Tucson by the name or Rocky LaRose. I always like to ask the questions although they turn out to be just coincidences. Ernie Heltsley

William I haven't researched the Johnson line yet. However, Mary Jane Johnson - born in April 1854, died in 1932, buried in Lavender Cemetery, married William James Hicks in 1874. Their son, Henry Camel Hicks, is the "grampa" in my research. I have been given a photo of Mary Jane - as an aged woman. If she's in your family I will share it with you. Kathy Kathleen LaRose Love is patient, love is kind....bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails. 1 Corinthians 13:4,7 NASB

Thanks, Kathleen, but Idon't think this is my line. Wish it were! Thank you very much. William G. Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: <KLaRosea10@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Stone Genealogy - Johnson > William I haven't researched the Johnson line yet. However, Mary Jane > Johnson - born in April 1854, died in 1932, buried in Lavender Cemetery, > married William James Hicks in 1874. Their son, Henry Camel Hicks, is the > "grampa" in my research. I have been given a photo of Mary Jane - as an aged > woman. If she's in your family I will share it with you. Kathy > > Kathleen LaRose > Love is patient, love is kind....bears all things, believes all things, hopes > all things, endures all things. Love never fails. 1 Corinthians 13:4,7 NASB > >

Donna Yes! Of course I'm interested. One never knows when that one little tidbit of info might pop out of the woodwork and be a giant key to other info!! <smiles > Kathy Kathleen LaRose Searching: BALDWIN, BLACK, COWGILL, DUTTON, HICKS, HOBBS, JOHNSON, KENDRICK, LAVENDER, LEE, PATTON, ROBERTSON, SHELDON, SHEARER, SHEWMAKER, STETSON, STONE, SUTTON, WAT(T)ERS, AND WHITESIDE

Kathy: Which Johnson line are you working on? We are from Eldorado, IL, and looking for family history as they came from KY. Any help would be appreciated. William G. Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: <KLaRosea10@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Stone Genealogy > Donna > Yes! Of course I'm interested. One never knows when that one little tidbit of > info might pop out of the woodwork and be a giant key to other info!! <smiles > > Kathy > Kathleen LaRose > Searching: BALDWIN, BLACK, COWGILL, DUTTON, HICKS, HOBBS, JOHNSON, KENDRICK, > LAVENDER, LEE, PATTON, ROBERTSON, SHELDON, SHEARER, SHEWMAKER, STETSON, > STONE, SUTTON, WAT(T)ERS, AND WHITESIDE > >

I have a Martha Seat who married Marcus R. Watson on Sept. 11, 1878 in Saline County. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Norman <s_g_norman@yahoo.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Seat/Seats > Hi all, I am a new user so please excuse any mistakes > I might make. I am looking for information on Seat or > Seats in Saline County. My great gradmother was Clara > Seats (in the family Bible it is spelled with an s, > but we have a picture of her next to a tombstone and > it is spelled Seat)I am not sure the tombstone is her > parents but I believe that is who it must be. It > reads: > > John K. Seat > October 22, 1850 birth > April 25, 1928 death > > Margaret His wife > December 17, 1850 birth > no date of death > > Any ideas of how to precede with this info? > > I appreciate any assistance or suggestions. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ______________________________

Surnames: THOMPSON HARRIS HARRISON ARNOLD Submitter: Laurie Thompson (laurieathompson@hotmail.com) Date: 21 May 2001 Looking for information on Armstead Thompson and Martha Harris married October 12, 1856 in Saline County, Illinois. Martha was the daughter of James Harris and Hulda Arnold. They are my great great grandparents. Their children were: Charles, George, Gilbert, Hezikiah, Marshall, Emery, Perry, Jane, Margie, Julia and Susie. Charles Thompson (my great grandfather) married Anna Lee Harrison. Their children were: Essie, Leslie (my grandfather), Winnifred, Ruby and Madolyn Please contact me if you are searching this line or have any information on this line, or if you have any tips on where I can look for information. I live in Michigan and it is hard to research in Illinois. Thanks, Laurie

That I don't Know as I have not done any research on the Seats Family--- Joyce ---------- > From: Darrell Wesley <darrellwes@home.com> > To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Seat/Seats/Answer > Date: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:49 PM > > Is John K Seats related to a Robert D. Seats who was married to a Mary > Adiline Coffee, they had a daughter named Daisy Dean Seats? > > Darrell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joyce Link" <jjj@fidnet.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Seat/Seats/Answer > > > > Hi, answer to your Seat/Seats question. > > > > Margaret is a second wife to John K Seats she was Margaret > > Steinscultz---3/25/1891 Saline co Il > > Margaret Steinscultz first husband was William Lawyer > > His first wife was Malvina Jennings 2/14/1878 Saline co Il > > This John K Seat/Seats was born in TN and is son of Coleman Seats in > don't > > have a name for his mother > > > > I just happen to be researching the Family of William Lawyer---NOW--- > his > > father was John Lawyer mother was Martha Ann Waggoner > > Did your G-grandmother have any brothers and sisters?? > > Do you have any time Frame for your Great grandmother as to birth date. > > What was your g-Grandmothers maidden name-- I try and help . > > Children of John K and first wife would have to been born between 1878 > and > > 1890. > > > > Joyce > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sue Norman <s_g_norman@yahoo.com> > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:40 AM > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Seat/Seats > > > > > > > Hi all, I am a new user so please excuse any mistakes > > > I might make. I am looking for information on Seat or > > > Seats in Saline County. My great gradmother was Clara > > > Seats (in the family Bible it is spelled with an s, > > > but we have a picture of her next to a tombstone and > > > it is spelled Seat)I am not sure the tombstone is her > > > parents but I believe that is who it must be. It > > > reads: > > > > > > John K. Seat > > > October 22, 1850 birth > > > April 25, 1928 death > > > > > > Margaret His wife > > > December 17, 1850 birth > > > no date of death > > > > > > Any ideas of how to precede with this info? > > > > > > I appreciate any assistance or suggestions. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks, Hal, sounds interesting. On Mon, 21 May 2001 15:14:53 -0500 "Hal Ledbetter" <ledbeter@livingston.net> writes: > There are several WARDS. Joe YATES Iis listed. He is the only one. > No > DURFEE. Several FOX'ES are listed. No BORDERS. > > Hal Ledbetter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <retgrandma@juno.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 3:56 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Ledbetter book > > > > Would be very interested in knowing the contents of this book. We > are > > searching names of WARD, YATES, DURFEE, FOX, BORDERS, and many > more > > mostly of Saline Co., IL > > Clara > > > > On Sun, 20 May 2001 15:08:49 -0500 "Hal Ledbetter" > > <ledbeter@livingston.net> writes: > > > You can contact Ken Haughton at khaughton@juno.com. He wrote > it. > > > The price > > > was $35 which included shipping. It is a big book, 1500 pages > with > > > 250 > > > pages of index. > > > > > > Hal Ledbetter > > > Livingston TX > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Jled1973@aol.com> > > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:04 PM > > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Ledbetter book > > > > > > > > > > I have lost the address to purchase the Ledbetter book. Does > > > anyone have > > > it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

First of all I want to thank Steve Spunk for the information on Joseph B. Stricklin's descendants. That was really helpful! I only have a couple of things I could add to his listing: Martha J. Stricklin (1826-1868) + Robert Mick (1819-1893) m. Bef. 1850 Per Illinois Statewide marriage index: Martha Stricklin married Robert Meek on 9/19/1844 William Bayes Stricklin (1835-1897) + Mary (2nd wife, 1844-?) m. Abt. 1865 Per Illinois Statewide marriage index: Mary Jackson married W.B. Stricklin on 3/15/1866 in Saline County, IL Now - I have another Stricklin question I'm hoping someone can help me with. Does anyone know who George Walter Stricklin's (1869-1944) parents were? He married Carrie Rabourn (1867-1943). Their children were: Elsie (Hale) Hannah (Lasseter) Wayne Robert Marion Thanks! Kate Rodenbach _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Is John K Seats related to a Robert D. Seats who was married to a Mary Adiline Coffee, they had a daughter named Daisy Dean Seats? Darrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Link" <jjj@fidnet.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Seat/Seats/Answer > Hi, answer to your Seat/Seats question. > > Margaret is a second wife to John K Seats she was Margaret > Steinscultz---3/25/1891 Saline co Il > Margaret Steinscultz first husband was William Lawyer > His first wife was Malvina Jennings 2/14/1878 Saline co Il > This John K Seat/Seats was born in TN and is son of Coleman Seats in don't > have a name for his mother > > I just happen to be researching the Family of William Lawyer---NOW--- his > father was John Lawyer mother was Martha Ann Waggoner > Did your G-grandmother have any brothers and sisters?? > Do you have any time Frame for your Great grandmother as to birth date. > What was your g-Grandmothers maidden name-- I try and help . > Children of John K and first wife would have to been born between 1878 and > 1890. > > Joyce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Norman <s_g_norman@yahoo.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:40 AM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Seat/Seats > > > > Hi all, I am a new user so please excuse any mistakes > > I might make. I am looking for information on Seat or > > Seats in Saline County. My great gradmother was Clara > > Seats (in the family Bible it is spelled with an s, > > but we have a picture of her next to a tombstone and > > it is spelled Seat)I am not sure the tombstone is her > > parents but I believe that is who it must be. It > > reads: > > > > John K. Seat > > October 22, 1850 birth > > April 25, 1928 death > > > > Margaret His wife > > December 17, 1850 birth > > no date of death > > > > Any ideas of how to precede with this info? > > > > I appreciate any assistance or suggestions. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > > >

There are several WARDS. Joe YATES Iis listed. He is the only one. No DURFEE. Several FOX'ES are listed. No BORDERS. Hal Ledbetter ----- Original Message ----- From: <retgrandma@juno.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Ledbetter book > Would be very interested in knowing the contents of this book. We are > searching names of WARD, YATES, DURFEE, FOX, BORDERS, and many more > mostly of Saline Co., IL > Clara > > On Sun, 20 May 2001 15:08:49 -0500 "Hal Ledbetter" > <ledbeter@livingston.net> writes: > > You can contact Ken Haughton at khaughton@juno.com. He wrote it. > > The price > > was $35 which included shipping. It is a big book, 1500 pages with > > 250 > > pages of index. > > > > Hal Ledbetter > > Livingston TX > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Jled1973@aol.com> > > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:04 PM > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Ledbetter book > > > > > > > I have lost the address to purchase the Ledbetter book. Does > > anyone have > > it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hey Darrell, did you get my message earlier with Clinton Paul and Lena's death dates? Anyway, I was looking at some information I have here at work today and I don't have much information past the Cynthia Elder/Judge Samuel Elder era. I have some approximate dates for Judge Samuel and that he was married to a Nancy Margaret Pinnell, but no dates for her at all. For Judge Samuel I have his parents as Samuel Elder and Ann ??? and some dates for them (firm marriage and his birthdates, others are approximate). Can you fill in the blanks? Before that I have Samuel's father as George, but that's it. Lori

Hi, answer to your Seat/Seats question. Margaret is a second wife to John K Seats she was Margaret Steinscultz---3/25/1891 Saline co Il Margaret Steinscultz first husband was William Lawyer His first wife was Malvina Jennings 2/14/1878 Saline co Il This John K Seat/Seats was born in TN and is son of Coleman Seats in don't have a name for his mother I just happen to be researching the Family of William Lawyer---NOW--- his father was John Lawyer mother was Martha Ann Waggoner Did your G-grandmother have any brothers and sisters?? Do you have any time Frame for your Great grandmother as to birth date. What was your g-Grandmothers maidden name-- I try and help . Children of John K and first wife would have to been born between 1878 and 1890. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Norman <s_g_norman@yahoo.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Seat/Seats > Hi all, I am a new user so please excuse any mistakes > I might make. I am looking for information on Seat or > Seats in Saline County. My great gradmother was Clara > Seats (in the family Bible it is spelled with an s, > but we have a picture of her next to a tombstone and > it is spelled Seat)I am not sure the tombstone is her > parents but I believe that is who it must be. It > reads: > > John K. Seat > October 22, 1850 birth > April 25, 1928 death > > Margaret His wife > December 17, 1850 birth > no date of death > > Any ideas of how to precede with this info? > > I appreciate any assistance or suggestions. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > >

Hi Darryl. Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you, but life has been a little crazy around here and work is even nuttier. Here are the dates you requested: Both Lena Bridwell Baker and Clinton Paul Baker died in the San Diego area, and lived in El Cajon. Their dates of death are: Lena: 4/29/1994 Paul: 3/15/1999 Hope all is well with you and yours. Lori Smith Andrews -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Wesley [mailto:darrellwes@home.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 6:56 PM To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Re: Lori ! Hi Lori, I see that your a Elder descendent thought our Baker connection, Steve will be disappointed in hearing that. Do you have Paul and Lena's date of death all I have is their birth date? Darrell Wesley ( John Elder descendent) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Andrews" <LoriAndrews@westat.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 1:36 PM Subject: RE: [ILSALINE-L] Re: Lori ! > You got it. Paul and Lena were my grandparents. Paul died just a couple of > years ago and Lena a few years before him. > > Lori > > -----Original Message----- > From: SSpunk@aol.com [mailto:SSpunk@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 1:14 PM > To: ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Re: Lori ! > > > In a message dated 5/11/01 12:05:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > ILSALINE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > << He played football, basketball and track. My mother also went to > Harrisburg High School, Winnie Baker. Lori >> > Lori > Ya said the 'magic word' BAKER. > Is your mom related to the Harrisburg Bakers or ??? My mother was b 1924 but > > went to Michigan in '38 . Shirley Dean Baker d/o John William Baker + > Bertha Mae Rister, s/o John William Baker + Louella Stiff Norman, s/o James > Jasper Baker + Francis Horning s/o Edmon Baker + Sarah Ann Johnson s/o > Edmund Baker + Saley Thorn. > Or is your Winnie d/o Paul + Lena ? > Best > steve > >

Thanks, I'll try it. \ --- Pnutkitty@aol.com wrote: > You might also try looking for SEETS. It seems to > me that I remember seeing > that spelling in my research in southern Illinois. > > Carol > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Would be very interested in knowing the contents of this book. We are searching names of WARD, YATES, DURFEE, FOX, BORDERS, and many more mostly of Saline Co., IL Clara On Sun, 20 May 2001 15:08:49 -0500 "Hal Ledbetter" <ledbeter@livingston.net> writes: > You can contact Ken Haughton at khaughton@juno.com. He wrote it. > The price > was $35 which included shipping. It is a big book, 1500 pages with > 250 > pages of index. > > Hal Ledbetter > Livingston TX > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Jled1973@aol.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:04 PM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Ledbetter book > > > > I have lost the address to purchase the Ledbetter book. Does > anyone have > it? > > > > > > > >

You can contact Ken Haughton at khaughton@juno.com. He wrote it. The price was $35 which included shipping. It is a big book, 1500 pages with 250 pages of index. Hal Ledbetter Livingston TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jled1973@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:04 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Ledbetter book > I have lost the address to purchase the Ledbetter book. Does anyone have it? > > >

Donna, Would you like to exchange info? I have quite a bit on the Abney family and may have some you can use. Are you related on the Joshua Abney line? ..Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Barnes <donnab@prodigy.net> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Stone Genealogy > I have some on the Abney line that you're researching. I have Joshua and > Sarah's kids, some marriage info and some descendant info. > > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Betty Phillips <awbpphil@cox-internet.com> > To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 7:31 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Stone Genealogy > > > > Kathy, I looked in my file and I don't have any of the names you > mentioned. > > That may not mean much as I have very little on my Stone family. My gg > > grandmother was Sarah "Sallie" Stone who married Joshua Abney. Sarah's > > father and mother were John Peter and Annie (Wiggin) Stone. I have a > little > > info on the siblings of Sarah but that is about all. I would love to learn > > more about this family......Betty Phillips > > > > > Hi Betty > > > I'm "digging for roots" in Southern Illinois also. My fiance's family > is > > > from there, actually they still live there. Deneen's paternal > > grandmother > > > was Opal Stone Hicks, daughter of George B Stone, son of John K M Stone, > > son > > > of Solomon Stone. Are these folks part of your Stone family? Would > enjoy > > > sharing info with you. > > > Thanks, Kathy > > > Kathleen LaRose > > > Searching: BALDWIN, BLACK, COWGILL, DUTTON, HICKS, HOBBS, JOHNSON, > > KENDRICK, > > > LAVENDER,LEE, PATTON, ROBERTSON, SHELDON, SHEARER, SHEWMAKER, STETSON, > > STONE, > > > SUTTON, WAT(T)ERS, AND WHITESIDE > > > > > > >

I show a John S. Aud as son of Thomas J. Aud and Sarah J. Pettypool. Thos. was b. 1818 in Breckenridge, Ky. and d. 1886 in Ill. Sarah was b 1818, possibly in Tn. and died 1871 in Ill. They were married 2/13/1840 in White Co., Ill. Both are buried in Old Prairie Cemetery, Herald's Prairie, White Co., Ill. I have a little more if you are interesed. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <UdyDee43@aol.com> To: <ILSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:38 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Aud/Gee/Wasson & Hathaway Families I'm seeking information on these families, they married into my Jennings family. Any help would be appreciated. Judy 1. John S.1 AUD He married Martha Ann HART. She was born March 1840 in IL. Children of John AUD and Martha HART are: + 2 i. Francis R.2 AUD, born 1863 in Herald, White Co IL. 3 ii. John AUD, born October 1875. 4 iii. Arnold B. AUD, born November 1878. Generation No. 2 2. Francis R.2 AUD (John S.1) was born 1863 in Herald, White Co IL. He married Sarah J. HATHAWAY 17 February 1895 in Hartsville, Pope Co IL, daughter of Alexander HATHAWAY and Emily JENNINGS. She was born 1867 in Golconda, Pope Co IL. Childrenof Francis AUD and Sarah HATHAWAY are: 5 i. Mabel3 AUD, born 1896. 6 ii. Kenneth AUD, born 1902. ********************************************************************* 1. Emily Jane3 JENNINGS (Elijah2, Joseph1) was born 24 July 1848 in PopeCo IL, and died 05 June 1921 in [Funeral held at Old Grandpier, Monday] [72y10m12d]. She married Alexander Nelson HATHAWAY 25 November 1866 in Pope Co IL. He was born October 1833 in IL and died 14 March 1917 in Pope Co IL. Notes for Emily Jane JENNINGS: Emily J.Jennings, daughter of Elijah [son of Joseph & Elizabeth Shadowin Jennings] and Mary[Soward] Jennings, was born July 24, 1848 and departed this life June 5, 1921. She was 72 years, 10 months and 12 days old. Was married to Alexander N. Hathaway Nov. 25, 1866. To this union were born 3 children, Sarah J. Aud of Harrisburg, Mary E.Wasson, of Oak, and Julia A. Gee, of Harrisburg. She professed a hope in Christ at an early age and joined the Missionary Baptist church,but in later years joined the Primitive Baptist church at Old Grandpier, where she remained a faithful member until death. Grandma leaves to mourn her departure three children, three brothers, Lee, of St. Louis, Ulysses, of Tansill, Otto, of Metropolis, two sisters, Mary Peel, of Tansill and Armada Davidson of Golconda. Also a host of friends and other relatives. Children of Emily JENNINGS and Alexander HATHAWAY are: 2 i. Sarah J.4 HATHAWAY, born 1867 in Golconda, Pope Co IL. She married Francis R. AUD 17 February 1895 in Hartsville, Pope Co IL; born 1863 in Herald,White Co IL. 3 ii. Mary Ellen HATHAWAY, born 02 November 1869 in Pope Co IL; died 20 March 1966 in Sunday 12:20 am Massac Co IL (Bethesdaem). She married Andrew Jackson WASSON 01 January 1890 in Pope Co IL; born 01 June 1861 in Hartsville, Pope Co IL; died 22 September 1949 in Saline Co IL (Bethesda Cem). More About Mary Ellen HATHAWAY: Burial: Bethesda Church Cemetery, Pope Co IL ~ Sec 24 T11S R6E More About Andrew Jackson WASSON: Burial: Bethesda Church Cemetery, Pope Co IL ~ Sec 24 T11S R6E 4 iii. Julia Ann HATHAWAY, born December 1871 in Pope Co IL. She married George W. GEE 18 October 1891 in HATHAWAY's Res., Pope Co IL; born October 1868 in CrittendenCo KY. Judy Foreman Lee UdyDee43@aol.com