Hi Suzanne Do you anything on Henry Ledbetter near Cave-in-Rock. Thanks. BettyG ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Southern IL 1810 Census I have a CD of the Illinois 1810 census. It is mainly So. Illinois -- what was Randolph Co. (Illinois Territory). Would be happy to do lookups. Suzanne

Jane, If you don't mind I will upload this to the Saline County ILGenWeb website. Sincerely, Jon Musgrave www.IllinoisHistory.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Dyer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] John Tate and His Descendants Book > JOHN TATE AND HIS DESCENDANTS > > > A genealogy book is currently being written on John Tate and His Descendants. John Tate was born in Ireland and came to America before 1800 and settled in Pennsylvania. This book will be going to the publisher around the first of year 2004 and will be released at the Tate/Pemberton Family Reunion at Tate's Chapel and Cemetery, near Galatia, Saline County, Illinois. The book will include families of the Tate's, Pemberton's, Carter's, Henderson's, Holliday's, Russell's and their descendants along with many other family names connected to the John Tate families. > > > The book will be hard back and contain approximately 800 pages of information, including an index and a section on the Robert A. Tate family and his descendant with its separate index. > > > The book can now be ordered before September 30, 2003 by contacting: > > > Mrs. Frances Shelton > > 3870 Galatia Road > > Galatia, Illinois 62935 > > Phone: (618) 268-4806 > > > Cost of the book will $40.00 per book if picked up at the Tate/Pemberton reunion Labor Day weekend in September 2004 at the Tate's Chapel Church & Cemetery in Saline County, Illinois. If you prefer the book to be mailed to you the cost per book will be $40.00 plus $8.00 each, for mailing for a total of $48.00 per book. Books must be pre-ordered. There will not be any additional books printed. Only the number prepaid will be available and reserved for those who order. > > > Robert Franklin Payne, Sr. - Book Author > > 3369 North County Road 503 > > Blytheville, Arkansas 72315 > > (870) 564-2447 - Email: [email protected] >

Just noticed the 1810 is online thru that Heritage link but I haven't been able to pull anyone out yet from IL... Saline was considered Randolph Co back then but I can't recall if it was IL or IN territory... ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Southern IL 1810 Census > Hi Suzanne, > > Thank you for your offer to do lookups on the 1810 census. > Please see if Robert Tarlton is on the census. > > Thank you. > > Jeanne Freeman > >

Hi, Suzanne--When you have time would you check your 1810 census for William Roark and Michael Roark? I know they had land at Shawneetown but don't know if they were living there. Thanks a bunch. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Southern IL 1810 Census > I have a CD of the Illinois 1810 census. It is mainly So. Illinois -- what > was Randolph Co. (Illinois Territory). > > Would be happy to do lookups. > > Suzanne >

I have a CD of the Illinois 1810 census. It is mainly So. Illinois -- what was Randolph Co. (Illinois Territory). Would be happy to do lookups. Suzanne

Has anyone viewed the 1810 census?? This included Saline Co, right (I know it did in 1818)? TERRITORIAL CENSUSES. 1810; 1818. 2 microfilm rolls and 1 vol. Index. The surviving portion of the 1810 territorial census is for Randolph County alone which at the time of the enumeration composed the southern quarter of what now is the state of Illinois. Entries include name of town, village, or other geographical subdivision; name of head of household; numbers of free white males aged 0-9, 10-15, 16-25, 26-44, and 45 and upwards; numbers of free white females by the same age divisions; number of other free persons, except Indians, not taxed; and the number of slaves. Entries were recapitulated and endorsed by the census taker. The 1818 population census of the Illinois Territory was compiled in each county by census commissioners appointed by the territorial Governor to establish the minimum population requirement for achieving statehood. Each county return includes name of county and for each household name of head of household, numbers of free white males twenty-one years of age or older, other white inhabitants, free Negroes and mulattoes, and servants and slaves. Also included are total number of inhabitants of each county, signature of census commissioner certifying census, and date certified. Returns are included for the following counties: Bond Crawford Franklin Gallatin Jackson Johnson Madison Monroe Pope Randolph St. Clair Union Washington White Censuses were reprinted by Margaret Cross Norton, ed., Illinois Census Returns: 1810, 1818, in Theodore Calvin Pease, ed., Collections of the Illinois State Historical Library, XXIV, (Springfield, 1935).

Anyone in that area who would look up records from the newspaper for an event that occured in 1905? We found a squib that mentiioned Phillip H. Macke, bank manager, charged with murder in 1905. Have not been able to find more info. We would like details of event that involved ggrandfather.

Which 1 & 2 did you mean ? Which George Baker did you have m the Bramlett ? Thanks !! Steve

Nancy Catherine Roark (born @1834-1926,daughter of Michael Roark, granddaughter of William Roark, Rev. War) married Israel D. Sisk (born @1826) on 8 Jun 1857 Michael E. Roark, b. 10 Dec 1866-d. Feb 1908, an attorney in Harrisburg IL, married Lula May Pickering on 18 Mar 1888. Michael E. was the son of Capt. William Roark (Civil War) & Martha Ann Ledford Allen Risinger, grandson of Michael Roark, g-grandson of William Roark (Rev. War). ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Harrisburg Daily Reg. > > > Researching Hutson/Pyle/Edwards/Nunn/Mitchell/Sisk/Miller/Pickering/ and > others too numerous to mention. >

Harrisburg newspaper records start around 1916. The paper existed before that but the library holdings are nearly non-existant until about 1916 after which they are complete. Lynda Miller [email protected] wrote: Anyone in that area who would look up records from the newspaper for an event that occured in 1905? We found a squib that mentiioned Phillip H. Macke, bank manager, charged with murder in 1905. Have not been able to find more info. We would like details of event that involved ggrandfather. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

Thanks for the suggestion: WE will look into that. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent & Tracy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] John Tate and His Descendants Book > Jane > > Do not if this will help, but the Post Office has a bound material rate, see > http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm/r700.htm#Rih40149 > Postage could go as low as $1.79, books need to weigh 1 pound, my last > mailing was 13 ounces at that was close enough. > > Kent > > > Cost of the book will $40.00 per book if picked up at the Tate/Pemberton > reunion Labor Day weekend in September 2004 at the Tate's Chapel Church & > Cemetery in Saline County, Illinois. If you prefer the book to be mailed to > you the cost per book will be $40.00 plus $8.00 each, for mailing for a > total of $48.00 per book. Books must be pre-ordered. There will not be any > additional books printed. Only the number prepaid will be available and > reserved for those who order. >

Jane Do not if this will help, but the Post Office has a bound material rate, see http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm/r700.htm#Rih40149 Postage could go as low as $1.79, books need to weigh 1 pound, my last mailing was 13 ounces at that was close enough. Kent > Cost of the book will $40.00 per book if picked up at the Tate/Pemberton reunion Labor Day weekend in September 2004 at the Tate's Chapel Church & Cemetery in Saline County, Illinois. If you prefer the book to be mailed to you the cost per book will be $40.00 plus $8.00 each, for mailing for a total of $48.00 per book. Books must be pre-ordered. There will not be any additional books printed. Only the number prepaid will be available and reserved for those who order.

Sam, Thank you, I finally went through the Sal. Co. web pg and got them and now noticed the web address had been changed. I thought, I was nuts!!! Ha. Thanks, Linda

In a message dated 7/11/03 1:10:12 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I would like to know if anyone has had any problems accessing the > Harrisburg > Daily Reg. the last couple days? > Thanks you > Linda > They seemed to have changed their web address. I got in this morning using: <A HREF="http://dailyregister.com/">http://dailyregister.com/</A> Sam

I haven't had any problems with the newspaper. Pat Mitchell

Researching Hutson/Pyle/Edwards/Nunn/Mitchell/Sisk/Miller/Pickering/ and others too numerous to mention.

I would like to know if anyone has had any problems accessing the Harrisburg Daily Reg. the last couple days? Thanks you Linda

Steve, Sorry to hear about the operation, but glad you're alive and kicking! - even if its not too high yet. I'm only doing Bakers 'cause they keep marrying to my lines. These are the main ones (have lots where I only have a smidge of info): James Jasper Baker and Frances Amanda Horning - dau. Sarah married into my Davis line. George Baker and Harriett Emily Bramlett (she's the dau. of one of my Rices) Also have an Edmund and Frances Ann Rice (obviously she's one of my Rices) Do you happen to have anything on #1 and #2 above? By the way, I enjoy your humor. Donna Speaking of them lost souls ........ litterally ! Could those of you who are researching BAKER lines from this area contact me at MY email address so I could make a list of who is going after which line ? It would make my work alot easier. I would ESPECIALLY like to hear from folk whose lines are out of HARDIN Co !!! ESPECIALLY if you know ABSALOM BAKER !! Absalom bought the land in Gallatin in 1814 (became Hardin Co) that Edmund Baker was appointed a road supervisor to. A connection, but what ? Absalom later moved to Madison Co by 1816 and Edmund to Franklin Co by 1818. QUESTION: DID any Bakers STAY on the land in Hardin Co ??? I can find no sales on that land until 1853 or so to a Donohue. (This line ALSO m into Baker) Any thoughts are greatly appreciated !! Steve [email protected] ps I appreciate those of you who put up with my strange sense of humor. I do not intentionally try to offend folks out here. I just get kinda excited. Maybe my computer could use some Ritlin ? ack. Actually, I am currently recovering from bypass surgery. YUCK. And I am just HAPPY TO STILL BE HERE !!!! I get WAY to emotional. I had the kind where the Dr makes yer heart go thumpa-thumpa-THUD and then ya hope they got the JUMPER cables working !!! The bad part is that it is genetic. It killed my da when he was 53. I am 52. Kinda makes ya think. A really GOOD reason to do genealogy. Ya never know what you might find. And maybe, just maybe, it will help someone be able to stop something before it happens.

Speaking of them lost souls ........ litterally ! Could those of you who are researching BAKER lines from this area contact me at MY email address so I could make a list of who is going after which line ? It would make my work alot easier. I would ESPECIALLY like to hear from folk whose lines are out of HARDIN Co !!! ESPECIALLY if you know ABSALOM BAKER !! Absalom bought the land in Gallatin in 1814 (became Hardin Co) that Edmund Baker was appointed a road supervisor to. A connection, but what ? Absalom later moved to Madison Co by 1816 and Edmund to Franklin Co by 1818. QUESTION: DID any Bakers STAY on the land in Hardin Co ??? I can find no sales on that land until 1853 or so to a Donohue. (This line ALSO m into Baker) Any thoughts are greatly appreciated !! Steve [email protected] ps I appreciate those of you who put up with my strange sense of humor. I do not intentionally try to offend folks out here. I just get kinda excited. Maybe my computer could use some Ritlin ? ack. Actually, I am currently recovering from bypass surgery. YUCK. And I am just HAPPY TO STILL BE HERE !!!! I get WAY to emotional. I had the kind where the Dr makes yer heart go thumpa-thumpa-THUD and then ya hope they got the JUMPER cables working !!! The bad part is that it is genetic. It killed my da when he was 53. I am 52. Kinda makes ya think. A really GOOD reason to do genealogy. Ya never know what you might find. And maybe, just maybe, it will help someone be able to stop something before it happens.

Thought I'd try & keep my mouth shut and maybe 'catch' some more cuzins BEst to all ! STEVE [email protected] Descendants of John Rice 1 John Rice 2 Ransom Scroggins Rice d: October 1840 in Franklin County Tennessee .... +Elizabeth Ann Lee b: 1801 Va d: 1859 Franklin Co Tenn m: Oct 10, 1825 ..3 Margaret Adeline Rice b: Oct 10, 1825 Tenn d: Feb 25, 1891 Saline Co Ill ......+Green H Byrom b: 1832 Ky m: October 15, 1854 in Saline County Illinois ..3 Arthur L Rice b: March 3,1827 Franklin Co Tenn d: Dec 5,1876 Saline Co Ill ...+Mary Jane Davis b:6/1/1833 Vt d:April 10,1910 m:Nov 16,1858 Davidson Co Tenn ..3 Elizabeth J Rice b: Aug 17, 1829 Franklin Co Tenn d: Dec 16, 1861 Saline Co Ill ...+Andrew J Hicks b: 1825 Ky d: Sept 18, 1866 m: Sept 7, 1851Saline Co Ill .. 3 Benjamin H Rice b: Oct 15, 1832 Tenn d: Nov 26, 1896 Saline Co Ill ...+Mary Jane Baker (d/o Edmund2 + Sarah Johnson) b: 1837 Ill d: Abt. June 5,1922 Ill m: May 1,1856 Saline Co Ill .. 3 Nancy Rice b: 1833 in Tennessee ...... +Thomas Hutcheson 3 James Alexander Rice b: Oct 02, 1835 Tenn d: May 17, 1899 Saline Co Ill .+Nancy Jane Patillo b: Jan 1,1849 Saline Co Ill d: Sept 8,1934 Saline Co Ill m: Nov 22, 1866 Saline Co Ill 4 Eva Adeline Rice b: 1868 in Saline County Illinois .... +John C Swinney b: 1866 m: June 03, 1891 in Saline County Illinois 4 Katherine Ellen Rice b: 1870 in Saline County Illinois .... +James J Johnson m: September 28, 1887 in Saline County Ill 4 Alberta Mae Rice b: 1872 in Saline County Illinois d: 1952 .... +W Jasper Powers m: 1895 4 Jesse Frances Rice b: March 1,1875 Saline Co Ill d: Sept 20, 1929 Saline Co Ill .... +Horace Penfold b:Aug 1873 Posey Co Ind d:1937 m: Dec 1,1901 Saline Co Ill 4 Helen Augusta Rice b: Sept 14, 1878 d: Nov 16, 1886 Saline Co Illinois 4 Arthur Lemuel Rice b: June 19, 1880 Saline Co Ill d: March 8, 1956 Saline Co Ill .... +Mary J Mecham b: 1884 d: 1973 4 Verna Lee Rice b: March 27, 1883 Saline Co Illinois d: March 14, 1955 ...+Robert Grant Anderson b:Oct 18,1873 d:April 1,1953 m:Feb 19,1902 Saline Co Ill 4 Olive Jane Rice b: October 25, 1884 in Saline County Illinois d: 1950 .... +Emery Carr b: 1883 Perry Co Ind m: Dec 23, 1903 Saline County Illinois 4 Raymond Roscoe Rice b: June 26, 1886 Ill d: Feb 1, 1935 Saline Co Ill .... +Mary M b: April 04, 1897 d: October 12, 1926 4 Ruby Myron Rice b: December 26, 1888 .... +Clarence Potter .. 3 Frances Ann Rice b: 1839 Tenn d: Bef. 1879 in Saline County Illinois ...+Edmund Baker (s/o Elijah Baker + Elizabeth Bramlet) b:1842 Ill d:April 9,1904 Saline Co Ill m:Oct 27,1859 Saline Co Ill >>>