Hi, I didn't find John Young in Saline Co., IL in 1880. There were two in KY, one was single. I did find this. Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900 Groom Bride Date Vol./Page License No. County YOUNG, JOHN BOURLAND, ELIZABETH (BOREN) 03/12/1882 E/ 146 SALINE YOUNG, JOHN (YR 1879 IN BKE) HENDERSON, SARAH TANNER 08/27/1880 A 1/ 36 SALINE 1880 United States Census Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace J. A. BOURLAND Self W Male W 48 IL Farmer NC KY G. A. BOURLAND Son S Male W 26 IL School Teacher IL KY Isaac N. BOURLAND Son S Male W 22 IL Works On Farm IL KY Timothy BOURLAND Sister S Female W 20 IL Works On Farm IL KY Elizabeth BOURLAND Dau S Female W 18 IL Keeps House IL KY Gertrude BOURLAND Dau S Female W 15 IL Home IL KY Rachel BOURLAND Mother W Female W 86 KY Home --- VA Source Information: Census Place District 112, Cottage Grove, Saline, Illinois Family History Library Film 1254248 NA Film Number T9-0248 Page Number 164D Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Mariah BOURLAND Self W Female W 46 IL Keeps House TN TN Thomas BOURLAND Son M Male W 22 IL Laborer IL IL Ellen BOURLAND SDau M Female W 18 IL IL IL Elizabeth BOURLAND Dau S Female W 18 IL IL IL Source Information: Census Place District 108, Bolton, Saline, Illinois Family History Library Film 1254248 NA Film Number T9-0248 Page Number 40A Sarah Henderson, Birth, Illinois, United States Census: 1880 United States Census Census Locality: Saline, Illinois Exact Spelling: Off 1. Sarah HENDERSON - 1880 United States Census / Illinois Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1868> IL 2. Sarah HENDERSON - 1880 United States Census / Illinois Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1840> IL 3. Sarah HENDERSON - 1880 United States Census / Illinois Sister Gender: Female Birth: <1868> IL 4. Sarah HENDERSON - 1880 United States Census / Illinois Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1863> IL 5. Sarah HENDERSON - 1880 United States Census / Illinois Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1843> IL http://www.familysearch.org Good Luck, Donna

1850 Saline Co., Illinois census (Tri City p 15-16) Randolph, William 28 M fasrmer NC Nancy 49 F NC Andrew 21 M Tenn Mathew 17 M Tenn Nancy 14 F Tenn Oliver 12 m Tenn Levi 11 M Tenn Thomas 8 M Tenn Malinda C. 4 F Tenn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- 1860 Fed Census of Saline Co., Illinois p131 Randolph, Nancy 72 ?? F NC Olive 21 M Tenn Thomas 17 M Tenn Catherine 13 F Tenn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 1870 Saline Co., Illinois census p 176 Randolph, Nancy 85 F Tenn Catherine 25 F Tenn Pruitt, Manervy 13 F Ky ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- 1880 Saline Co. Illinois census P 53 Randolph, Nancy 99 F NC-Va-NC Malinda 29 F dau Tenn-Unk-NC Margaret Bauer of Florida [email protected] My Family Tree is missing a few branches ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:02 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > Could someone please do an 1880 census look-up for Nancy Pearl Randolph who was probably living in the household of her daughter and son-in-law James Launius. I'm interested in knowing the names, ages, and places of birth of those in the household, including the place of birth Nancy names for her parents. > > Thank you in advance. > > Jan > >

1850 Saline Co., Illinois census (Tri City p 15-16) Randolph, William 28 M farmer NC Nancy 49 F NC Andrew 21 M Tenn Mathew 17 M Tenn Nancy 14 F Tenn Oliver 12 m Tenn Levi 11 M Tenn Thomas 8 M Tenn Malinda C. 4 F Tenn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- 1860 Fed Census of Saline Co., Illinois p131 Randolph, Nancy 72 ?? F NC Olive 21 M Tenn Thomas 17 M Tenn Catherine 13 F Tenn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 1870 Saline Co., Illinois census p 176 Randolph, Nancy 85 F Tenn Catherine 25 F Tenn Pruitt, Manervy 13 F Ky ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- 1880 Saline Co. Illinois census P 53 Randolph, Nancy 99 F NC-Va-NC Malinda 29 F dau Tenn-Unk-NC Margaret Bauer of Florida [email protected] My Family Tree is missing a few branches ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:02 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > Could someone please do an 1880 census look-up for Nancy Pearl Randolph who was probably living in the household of her daughter and son-in-law James Launius. I'm interested in knowing the names, ages, and places of birth of those in the household, including the place of birth Nancy names for her parents. > > Thank you in advance. > > Jan > >

Thank you so much. Yes, please send jpeg. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent & Tracy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > She was living with Malinda in Household 46,, G. E. Randolph in household 32 > and THomas in household 36 > Had to do the work thing so I could not respond earlier.If you want I could > eamil the jpeg > > Kent > Name: Malinda RANDOLPH > Age: 29 > Estimated birth year: <1851> > Birthplace: Tennessee > Relation: Dau > Home in 1880: Stone Fort, Saline, Illinois > Occupation: Keeps House > Marital status: Single > Race: White > Gender: Female > Head of household: Nancy RANDOLPH > Father's birthplace: --- > Mother's birthplace: NC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:42 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > > > > Thank you. Are you showing anyone else in the household? > > > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kent & Tracy" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:31 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > > > > > > > Name: Nancy RANDOLPH > > > Age: 99 > > > Estimated birth year: <1781> > > > Birthplace: North Carolina > > > Relation: Self > > > Home in 1880: Stone Fort, Saline, Illinois > > > Occupation: > > > Marital status: Widowed > > > Race: White > > > Gender: Female > > > Head of household: Nancy RANDOLPH > > > Father's birthplace: VA > > > Mother's birthplace: NC > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 11:02 PM > > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > > > > > > > > > > Could someone please do an 1880 census look-up for Nancy Pearl > Randolph > > > who was probably living in the household of her daughter and son-in-law > > > James Launius. I'm interested in knowing the names, ages, and places of > > > birth of those in the household, including the place of birth Nancy > names > > > for her parents. > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Shirley Larue To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Young/Brandon 1880 census I noted that someone did a 1880 census look up for a lady. Am wondering if someone could look up in that census for a John W YOung, born in 1855 in Ky, I think. He migrated to Illinois, and married 3 times. first marriage was: Sarah Tanner Henderson Elizabeth "Bettie" Boren or Bourland Believe these ladies may be sisters? Sarah is buried in the Bolten cemetary. John's father name was William L Young, and his mother's name was Margaret Dunn, They supposably lived close to each other after JOhn married in Stonefort or Carrier Mills, Ill. I am trying to back track John W from birth on and have ran into a brick wall. If these names are familer to anyone, let me know what info you might have. Thanks for reading this. Shirley Young Larue

She was living with Malinda in Household 46,, G. E. Randolph in household 32 and THomas in household 36 Had to do the work thing so I could not respond earlier.If you want I could eamil the jpeg Kent Name: Malinda RANDOLPH Age: 29 Estimated birth year: <1851> Birthplace: Tennessee Relation: Dau Home in 1880: Stone Fort, Saline, Illinois Occupation: Keeps House Marital status: Single Race: White Gender: Female Head of household: Nancy RANDOLPH Father's birthplace: --- Mother's birthplace: NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > Thank you. Are you showing anyone else in the household? > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kent & Tracy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:31 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > > > > Name: Nancy RANDOLPH > > Age: 99 > > Estimated birth year: <1781> > > Birthplace: North Carolina > > Relation: Self > > Home in 1880: Stone Fort, Saline, Illinois > > Occupation: > > Marital status: Widowed > > Race: White > > Gender: Female > > Head of household: Nancy RANDOLPH > > Father's birthplace: VA > > Mother's birthplace: NC > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 11:02 PM > > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > > > > > > > Could someone please do an 1880 census look-up for Nancy Pearl Randolph > > who was probably living in the household of her daughter and son-in-law > > James Launius. I'm interested in knowing the names, ages, and places of > > birth of those in the household, including the place of birth Nancy names > > for her parents. > > > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > > > Jan > > > > > >

Thanks, Darrell. I guess I'm not everyone, because I wasn't aware. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "DARRELL WESLEY" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > Everyone is aware of the fact that the 1880 census is > available online from both FamilySearch and Ancestry both > are no fee. > > Every name is in the index not just head of hosehold. > > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:02:03 -0400 > "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> wrote: > >Could someone please do an 1880 census look-up for Nancy > >Pearl Randolph who was probably living in the household > >of her daughter and son-in-law James Launius. I'm > >interested in knowing the names, ages, and places of > >birth of those in the household, including the place of > >birth Nancy names for her parents. > > > >Thank you in advance. > > > >Jan > > >

Everyone is aware of the fact that the 1880 census is available online from both FamilySearch and Ancestry both are no fee. Every name is in the index not just head of hosehold. On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:02:03 -0400 "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> wrote: >Could someone please do an 1880 census look-up for Nancy >Pearl Randolph who was probably living in the household >of her daughter and son-in-law James Launius. I'm >interested in knowing the names, ages, and places of >birth of those in the household, including the place of >birth Nancy names for her parents. > >Thank you in advance. > >Jan >

Thank you for sending that ... It's very interesting !

Thank you. Are you showing anyone else in the household? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent & Tracy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > Name: Nancy RANDOLPH > Age: 99 > Estimated birth year: <1781> > Birthplace: North Carolina > Relation: Self > Home in 1880: Stone Fort, Saline, Illinois > Occupation: > Marital status: Widowed > Race: White > Gender: Female > Head of household: Nancy RANDOLPH > Father's birthplace: VA > Mother's birthplace: NC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 11:02 PM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > > > > Could someone please do an 1880 census look-up for Nancy Pearl Randolph > who was probably living in the household of her daughter and son-in-law > James Launius. I'm interested in knowing the names, ages, and places of > birth of those in the household, including the place of birth Nancy names > for her parents. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > Jan > > >

Source Information Year: 1880; Census Place: Stone Fort, Saline, Illinois; Roll: T9_248; Family History Film: 1254248; Page: 38A; Enumeration District: 61; Image: 0079. sorry forgot the source info ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > Could someone please do an 1880 census look-up for Nancy Pearl Randolph who was probably living in the household of her daughter and son-in-law James Launius. I'm interested in knowing the names, ages, and places of birth of those in the household, including the place of birth Nancy names for her parents. > > Thank you in advance. > > Jan >

Name: Nancy RANDOLPH Age: 99 Estimated birth year: <1781> Birthplace: North Carolina Relation: Self Home in 1880: Stone Fort, Saline, Illinois Occupation: Marital status: Widowed Race: White Gender: Female Head of household: Nancy RANDOLPH Father's birthplace: VA Mother's birthplace: NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] 1880 census > Could someone please do an 1880 census look-up for Nancy Pearl Randolph who was probably living in the household of her daughter and son-in-law James Launius. I'm interested in knowing the names, ages, and places of birth of those in the household, including the place of birth Nancy names for her parents. > > Thank you in advance. > > Jan >

Tidbits of History - Sayings Now we know why some of the sayings we've heard all our lives. ----------- I don't know if any of these are true, but...... Here's a little history that you might find interesting... 1. In George Washington's days, there were no cameras. One's image was either sculpted or painted. Some paintings of George Washington showed him standing behind a desk with one arm behind his back while others showed both legs and both arms. Prices charged by painters were not based on how many people were to be painted, but by how many limbs were to be painted. Arms and legs are "limbs;" therefore, painting them would cost the buyer more. Hence, the expression, "Okay, but it'll cost you an arm and a leg." ********************************************************************* As incredible as it sounds, men and women took baths only twice a year! (May & October) Women always kept their hair covered while men shaved their heads (because of lice and bugs) and wore wigs. Wealthy men could afford good wigs. The wigs couldn't be washed so to clean them, they could carve out a loaf of bread, put the wig in the shell and bake it for 30 minutes. The heat would make the wig big and fluffy, hence the term "big wig." Today we often use the expression "Here comes the Big Wig" because someone appears to be or is powerful and wealthy. ******************************************************************** In the late 1700's, many houses consisted of a large room with only one chair. Commonly, a long wide board was folded down from the wall and used for dining. The "head of the household" always sat in the chair while everyone else ate sitting on the floor. Once in a while an invited guest would be offered to sit in this chair during a meal whom was almost always a man. To sit-in the chair meant you were important and in charge. Sitting in the chair, one was called the "chair man." Today, in business, we use the expression/ title "Chairman." ********************************************************************* Needless to say, personal hygiene left much room for improvement. As a result, many women and men had developed acne scars by adulthood. The women would spread bee's wax over their facial skin to smooth out their complexions. When they were speaking to each other, if a woman began to stare at another woman's face she was told "mind your own bee's wax." Should the woman smile, the wax would crack, hence the term "crack a smile." Also, when they sat too close to the fire, the wax would melt, and therefore, the expression "losing face." ********************************************************************* Ladies wore corsets which would lace up in the front. A tightly tied lace was worn by a proper and dignified lady as in "straight laced". ******************************************************************* Common entertainment included playing cards. However, there was a tax levied when purchasing playing cards but only applicable to the "ace of spades." To avoid paying the tax, people would purchase 51 cards instead. Yet, since most games require 52 cards, these people were thought to be stupid or dumb because they weren't "playing with a full deck." ********************************************************************* Early politicians required feedback from the public to determine what was considered important to the people. Since there were no telephones, TV's or radios, the politicians sent their assistants to local taverns, pubs and bars who were told to "go sip some ale" and listen to people's conversations and political concerns. Many assistants were dispatched at different times. "You go sip here" and "You go sip there." The two words "go sip" were eventually combined when referring to the local opinion and thus, we have the term "gossip." ******************************************************************** At local taverns, pubs and bars, people drank from pint and quart-sized containers. A bar maid's job was to keep an eye on the customers and keep the drinks coming. She had to pay close attention and remember who was drinking in "pints" and who was drinking in "quarts." Hence, the term "minding your "'P's and Q's."

The 11 Nov 1991 issue of ANTIQUE WEEK contained an article by John V. Heisey entitled "Are Strange Diseases of Ancestors Interpreted in 20th Century Terms?" Based on this article plus a list of medical terms from the Prodigy Genealogy Bulletin Board and another list from the Fall 1986 Appleland Bulletin, the following combined list was composed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --These should all be separated with a -, I won't bother to do them all as I know that you get my drift... Ablepsia - Blindness African Consumption - Tuberculosis Ansasrca - Generalized Dropsy Ague - recurring fever & chills of Malaria Angina Pectoris Paroxysms with severe pain in lower chest, feeling of suffocation Apoplexy Stroke Bethlehemite Mentally ill person Bilious fever Fever, liver disorder the cause Black Death typhus Black Lung From breathing coal dust Black Pox Smallpox Bloody Flux Dysentery Brain Fever Sun stroke Bright's Disease Kidney Inflammation Bronze John Yellow Fever Camp Fever Typhus Canine Madness Hydrophobia (Rabies) Catarrh (1) Inflammation of Mucous Membrane or (2) Cerebral Hemorrhage (Apoplexy) Cerebritis Inflammation of the Brain Childbed Fever Infection following Childbirth Chin Cough Whooping cough Chorea St. Vitus Dance Commotion Concussion Congestive Chill Accumulation of the blood in the blood vessels Congestive Fever Malaria Consuption Pulmonary Tuberculosis Corruption Infection Coryza Cold Cramp Colic Appendicitis Debilitas Weakness of the Body Devonshire Colic Erposure to lead Dropsy Edema caused by kidney or heart disease Dysentery Inflammation of intestinal mucous membrane Dyspepsia Acid Indigestion Enteric Fever Typhoid Fever Enteritis Intestinal inflammation Extravasated blood Ruptured blood vessel Falling Sickness Epilepsy Fits Convulsions Flus of Humour Circulation French Disease Syphilis French Pox Venereal Disease Galloping Consumption Pulmonary Tuberculosis Green Sickness Anemia Grippe Influenza Hallucination Delirium Hip Gout Osteomyelitis Ictus Solis Sunstroke Jail Fever Typhus King's Evil Scrofula; Swelling of the neck glands La Grippe Flu Lues Venera Venereal Disease Lumbago Pain in lower back, hip, or thigh: Sciatica Lung fever Pneumonia Lung Sickness Tuberculosis Mania Insanity Mirasmus Emaciation Milk Leg inflammation of leg Morbus Disease Mormal Gangrene Mortification Infection Nostalgia Homesickness Painter's Colic Exposure to lead Phthisis Pulmonary Consumption Pleurisy Inflammation of Lung Pox Syphilis Puerperal Fever Infection following childbirth Putrid Fever Diphtheria Quinsey Tonsillitis Remitting Fever Malaria Sanguinous Crust Scab Scorbutus Lack of Vitamin C Screws Rheumatism Scrofula see King's Evil Senile Gangrene Hardening of the Arteries Ship's Fever Typhus Sore Throat Distemper Quinsey St. Anthony's Fire Skin Infection St. Vitus' Dance Nervous Twitches Sloes Milk Sickness Ulcus Ulcer Venesection Bleeding Whitlow Boil Winter Fever Pneumonia Yellow Jacket Yellow Fever

This Old Timer's page is so interesting! http://waltonfeed.com/old/index.html

Could someone please do an 1880 census look-up for Nancy Pearl Randolph who was probably living in the household of her daughter and son-in-law James Launius. I'm interested in knowing the names, ages, and places of birth of those in the household, including the place of birth Nancy names for her parents. Thank you in advance. Jan

Does anyone know if you can still order obit copies from the Harrisburg Daily and if so, do you know how much per copy? Thank you Linda

I will check - my inlaws settled in AL after coming from the Carolinas and GA - I will look thru the records and see what I can. thanks so much ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Davis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 2:49 PM Subject: RE: [ILSALINE-L] Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 > Becky - I attempted to send you a note last night but while it was in the > process of being "sent" I lost my connection to my ISP. So, I apologize if > this is a duplicate. > > Noticed your surname is Edmonds. Is the name of William H. EDMONDS anywhere > in your research? His first wife was Hattie MOORE. I believe William was > born in Kentucky, but have not been able to verify this as yet. If he is in > your tree, I will be happy to share information with you. Thanks. > > Jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: BIC-Malden Office [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:46 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 > > > do you still have your copy and were there any Owens around Saline County > becky Edmonds > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:37 AM > Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 > > > > In year of 2000 I was able to print out all names of grooms from A to Z > > in the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 by County. This > > could be done by bride's names also. > > Does anyone know why I can not do the same now??? > > Clara > > > > > > ______________________________ > > >

Becky - I attempted to send you a note last night but while it was in the process of being "sent" I lost my connection to my ISP. So, I apologize if this is a duplicate. Noticed your surname is Edmonds. Is the name of William H. EDMONDS anywhere in your research? His first wife was Hattie MOORE. I believe William was born in Kentucky, but have not been able to verify this as yet. If he is in your tree, I will be happy to share information with you. Thanks. Jan -----Original Message----- From: BIC-Malden Office [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILSALINE-L] Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 do you still have your copy and were there any Owens around Saline County becky Edmonds ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: [ILSALINE-L] Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 > In year of 2000 I was able to print out all names of grooms from A to Z > in the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 by County. This > could be done by bride's names also. > Does anyone know why I can not do the same now??? > Clara > > ______________________________

Could someone tell me the web address for the index, I can't find it? Thank You, Ginni