This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chatterchit Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12529.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What things have been tried already? Just a few suggestions: Have you written to any county clerks to order their license? Do you know where your grandparents were born? (If not, have you ordered their death certificates?) Have you found them in all the possible US Censuses? Do you have copies of their obits? Do you have your father's birth certificate? (That should have a town, not just a county -- which may help.) If I can think of a few more, I'll post them.... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.