This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RVcook Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12847.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Amy, You may want to check into the adoption laws for the state of Illinois. Regulations vary by state and you may not be able to obtain a copy of her "real" birth certificate. As far as Cook county death records, certificates issued for genealogical purposes must be 20 yrs. or older. Since your grandmother passed in 2001, this situation does not qualify. If you are interested in pursuing this, you should start with family and see how far that takes you. Although in certain situations, relatives can be less than forthcoming, they can also open up and share information that you would otherwise not be privy to. Let's hope that is the situation for you. Good luck to you on your quest. Donna Hodach-Price Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.