Cindy and list Thank you so much..I knew not all records were not online but had no idea if the ones I am looking for were there but I missed them somehow. Thank you so much for making that phone call and finding out this information. Somewhere,somehow, someone found online the marriage info for my greatgrandparents Lawrence FITZSIMMONS & Fidelia (Bridget) RILEY-1860) and sent it to me. It has been so long ago I cant remember who sent it or where they found it. That information is what led to me finding them in the census and anything thereafter, so I know its exists somewhere online but I cant find it... lol Ive tried both bride and groom at different search engines and have come up with nothing ever. There is some question about my greatgrandmothers given name.My greatgrandfather Lawrence FITZSIMMONS' obit calls her "Bridget". Other census and 3 of their childrens baptismal records call her Odilla, and Adilla and Bridget. One census says Bedelia, one says Deliliah, and still another and the marriage say Fidelia, somewhere Ive seen Delia as well. As far as her surname Ive found her mother Mary RILEY, in 3 different census spelled RILEY, however Marys obit has another spelling. It seems RILEY may be the correct spelling.But then its anyones guess what name or what spelling its listed as. One site has Lawrence FITZSIMMONS as FRANCE FITSIONES!!! however when you click it on it has the correct (or close to, spellings) I think that site was ancestry.com Someone also sent that to me. On webtv I cant et ancestry .com I know Lawrence and Bridgets children were baptized at St Mary's Catholic Church in Ottumwa in the 1860's - 1880's. Does anyone know how I would look for these records? I cant find anything about my greatgrandmother Bridget, only some census, not even a death record (Platte County Nebraska 1903-1904. She was born about 1844 in Ireland came to Illinois about 1846. Her mother was Mary, no idea who her father,my great great grandfather was. Thanks again everyone for all your terrific help. It is so appreciated. Thanks again Cindy :) Cris Atwater California