In a message dated 3/26/2005 3:47:23 PM Central Standard Time, JOARDITH@aol.com writes: > ILROOTS-L@rootsweb.com have found a possibility in 1870 Ste Marie, Jasper, Illinois: HOWARD, Samuel 30 born IL Eliza 29 IL Thomas 5 IL James 1 IL John 1 IL In 1880, Sullivan, Moultrie, Illinois: HOWARD, Eliza 38 IL Thomas 15 IL James 11 IL John 11 IL Let me know if this looks familiar. RC