Carolyn, did you see this on familysearch.com? It could well be your ggrandfather's birth in Prussia. Keep an open mind. JOHANN CHRISTIAN GROMANN Male ____________________________________ Event(s): Birth: Christening: 21 JUN 1835 Jerusalem, Berlin Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen Death: Burial: ____________________________________ Parents: Father: _JOHANN CHRISTIAN GROMANN_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=500245374511&lds=1&region=8&frompag e=99) _Family_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/family_group_record.asp?familyid=193987909&indi_id=500245374511&lds=1&region=8&frompage=99) Mother: _SABINE WILHELMINE BADEKE_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=500245374512&lds=1&region=8&frompage=99) ____________________________________ Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. ____________________________________ Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: _C998348_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/search_igi.asp?batch_number=C998348&region=8) 1832 - 1840 _0070273_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=fi lmhitlist&columns=*,180,0&filmno=0070273) Film NONE Sheet: 00 I got into the Illinois archives tonight and could not find a thing on anyone with the last name Kromann. Joan