In a message dated 7/20/05 2:48:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Mama.CAS@comcast.net writes: 227 232 Simpson Umphrey 46 M KY > Cascinda " 34 F KY > Elizabeth L " 17 F KY > Laurenna " 15 F KY > Fidella " 14 F KY > Nancy I." 10 F IL > Altts? A " 7 F IL > Henry H " 6 M IL > John A " 4 M IL > George " 1 M IL In 1870, I find this family which appears to be a match: Browning Township, Schuyler Copunty, Illinois Umphers, Simpson, 45, born KY, chair maker, can't read or write, male citizen, etc. Sidney, 45, born KY, keeping house Allice, 18, born IL Henry, 17, born IL John, 13, born IL George, 11, born IL Dora, 9, born IL I can't find them in 1880 at familysearch.com. Have your tried there? Joan