This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yongguang Surnames: Shields, Cline Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12813.1.1.3.1.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I only had Margaret in several later censuses and her married name of Shields. The age for the married couple is 8 years too young - a bit surprising for this side of the family. The only marriage of a Shields and a Margaret in a 12 year period, and it matches exactly the time necessary for her daughter to be born. It would be nice to get extra confirmation, but not sure how that could be done - her husband was not listed in 4 censuses beginning in 1860. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealogy1198 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12824.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Name: Paul Mizevitz Birth Date: 28 Jan 1935 Birth Location: Cook County, IL File Number: 6003585 Archive collection name: Cook County Genealogy Records (Births) Archive repository location: Chicago, IL Archive repository name: Cook County Clerk scott www.lookingfordead.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: smizevitz Surnames: Mizevitz Garbera Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12824/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Trying to locate a missing birth record for Paul MIZEVITZ Jr., who is the youngest of three children born to Paul and Stella MIZEVITZ on 28 JAN 1935. The two eldest children; Allie (Ollie) born 1922 and Helen 1916 I am able to find birth records for in Chicago, Cook Co. Illinois. Mother Stella Americanized her name from 'Nacia' Maiden name 'GARBERA'. Paul Jr. grew up in Chicago but no documents turn up for his birth. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Name:Paul MizevitzBirth Date:28 Jan 1935Birth Location:Cook County, ILFile Number:6003585Archive collection name:Cook County Genealogy Records (Births)Archive repository location:Chicago, ILArchive repository name:Cook County Clerk Scott Wolfe www.lookingfordead.com On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:53 AM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com < gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: smizevitz > Surnames: Mizevitz Garbera > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12824/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Trying to locate a missing birth record for Paul MIZEVITZ Jr., who is the > youngest of three children born to Paul and Stella MIZEVITZ on 28 JAN 1935. > The two eldest children; > Allie (Ollie) born 1922 and Helen 1916 I am able to find > birth records for in Chicago, Cook Co. Illinois. > Mother Stella Americanized her name from 'Nacia' Maiden name 'GARBERA'. > Paul Jr. grew up in Chicago but no documents turn up for his birth. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would > like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and > respond on the board. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/Illinoismailinglist3.html > > Visit the Illinois GenWeb Project's - Unknown IL Counties Web Site at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilunknow/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tanks192 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12479.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frank Opolony was my dad's brother. His wife was Josephine Skroko. Their only son, Frank, Jr., died in 1995. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I wrote this a couple of weeks ago I think...and apparently did not address it correctly because I just found it in the "I want to go out but the machine won't accept me like this" box. I'm sorry about that...but maybe it is still "good" to think about for your project. Kristy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't have any real information for you...but I do have a few "questions" that might encourage research from a different angle. My daughter tells me that, if you haven't found the thing you are looking for, you have asked the wrong questions. She is a master at looking for the craziest thing that could have possibly happened...and is remarkably lucky about finding whatever information she needs to find. So, with the thought that these people did exist, you must not have looked in the "right place" for some reason. Keep trying! 1. Have you looked into the undertaker's records? He will not be available, of course, but it is possible that his records have survived and are stored at some current funeral home. One of the larger homes in Springfield might have information on where (whether) to look for them. Or perhaps some active researcher in the Springfield area could have clues about where to look. 2. Have you tried "Illinois Trails-Sangamon" or "Random Acts of Genealogy Kindness" for a starting point? 3. There are lists of who was practicing medicine where and when. Maybe that would offer a clue. I see that the doctor was named Smith -- perhaps Dr. Jesse Smith was related to son-in-law Frank Smith? It is a long shot...but it could happen. When you are stuck, you look everywhere. The doctor in our early family has signed such documents for the relatives even tho he was probably not doing all their medical work, and probably was not living close enough to make house calls convenient. 4. Did you look in the Xenia, Ohio, area for marriage records? It is early to have recorded marriage certificates but one never knows. Margaret was a mite old to have her first child in 1851...maybe she was married from 7-10 years before that? Ten years before would indicate the possibility of her presence in a "history book" of the area naming early settlers perhaps. (Ohio was settled before Illinois so it also may mean she missed that designation. But some nice family may have had a "Margaret" born in 1822...maybe looking at them would prove useful? 5. I would guess that whoever wrote "Zenia" had heard, but not seen, the word. It appears to me that you have read it as written. Have you done all the searching in Xenia that you did in Springfield? (This is much better writing and clarity than some death certificates, thankfully.) 6. I am not sure what you mean by "The land records link does not include Springfield". Are you referring to the cemetery? There is a famous "Oak Ridge" cemetery in Springfield. It is large and boasts of being the final resting place for Abraham Lincoln. However, every "fourth" cemetery in the world seems to be named Oak Ridge. (jesting...but there really are many) Sometimes a cemetery name that is clear to the neighbors 150 years earlier becomes more and more confusing as areas grow and change and have ever increasing populations. You might refer to some of those funeral homes to see if there are other possibilities in the area. 7. I find it surprising that there were no newspapers published in the Illinois State Capital at the time of Margaret's death in 1886. Our little podunk of 1,000 had one...and sometimes three...in that general time period. Check on that again, by inquiring at Illinois Trails, or GenWeb Sangamon, or such. There are records that tell what newspapers were in existence when. Whether or not Margaret or Ella and Frank were mentioned is problematical... but remember that there were few listings that looked like what we term "obituaries" today. They were rarely in a particularly place and rarely looked like more than "Frank Smith's wife's mother died on Tuesday." That would be mixed in with other important news like "Mable had company" and "Buy your canned peaches at the South Side Market." This requires careful reading to find and "translate" to "Margaret Shields died". 8. Have you looked in the census records in both Ohio and Illinois? Sometimes you get lucky and discover that there are more children to track down. Or perhaps Margaret's mother or sibling once lived with them? Or perhaps Frank had a connection to the Smith family two doors down from them? 9. Many of these searches could be done for Ella, Frank, or their children. Any of their stories in the paper, funeral home, history books, could suddenly present the clue you need to find Margaret. Have you looked for these folks with a simple "Google" search? Have you used other search engines? Have you found a relative who has the clue you need? 10. Think of some weird thing...perhaps Margaret never married? ...perhaps she went by Peggy at times? perhaps Frank went by Francis? ...perhaps she died in the poor house? ...perhaps she was a recluse with lots of money? perhaps ____ ? Good luck! Write to this site when you find your family so we can rejoice with you! Kristy > > Microfilmed newspapers do not cover the time and place of Margaret Shield's > death, or her daughter's. I'm going thru the list to find if there might be a > physical copy of the right date somewhere for the obit. > > http://sangamon.ilgenweb.net/ info does not seem to have what I need either. > > I am looking for Margaret Shields' maiden name, as Shields is her married > name. > I am also looking for her husband's given name. > > Summary of basic info that I have on this branch: > > 1822 Margaret Shields (married name), may have been b. Xenia, Ohio about Sep > 1822. > 1851 Ella J Shields was b. Ohio about 1851 > 1856 They moved to Springfield, Illinois 1856 or 1857 > 1878 Ella J Shields married Frank L Smith (born Ohio) in Madison, Illinois Jun > 29, 1878 > 1880 Census describes Margaret Shields (married name) as widowed, living in > Madison, Illinois. > 1886 Margaret Shields (married name) dies in Springfield, Illinois > 1887 a daughter is born to Ella J and Frank L in Springfield, Illinois. > 1899 Ella J dies in Springfield, Illinois > 1900 Frank and children live in Springfield, Illinois > 1920 Ella J's child (my ancestor too)now lives in Tacoma, Washington.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kzavada Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12821.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: obits can sometimes help a great deal. I found this one for your Joyhn Paul's father because of the other researchers work for you. Chicago Tribune (IL) - March 20, 1949 Deceased Name: JOHN LEE UDELL John Lee Udell, 63, of 102 N. Sheridan rd., Highland Park, died yesterday in his home. He was general manager of the Pioneer Publishing company, which publishes the Highland Park News, the Lake Forest News, and the Deerfield News. He came to Highland Park in 1908 from Rantoul, Champaign county, his birthplace, and started a job printing shop, later founding the Highland Park Press, which he sold in 1940 to the Highland Park News. Two years later it was acquired by the Pioneer Publishing company. He was a former president of the Illinois Press association, and of the Highland Park Chamber of Commerce. He leaves his widow, Mrs. Nellie E. Udell; three daughters, Mrs. Betty Anderson, Mrs. Phyllis McMillan, and Mrs. Jacqueline Vanderlip; two sons, N. Lee Udell, public relations director for the Chicago National bank, and John Paul Udell; a sister, Mrs. Ruth Cope, and a brother, B. B. Udell. PHOTO CAPTION: J. L. Udell (might need to check ancestry or contact chicago trib to get copy of this photo-newsbank I use doesn't have it) Edition: Chicago Tribune Copyright 1949, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. based on mention of brother in above obit as B.B. UDELL I found Bertram B. UDELL's obit(brother of John Lee UDELL)) Chicago Tribune (IL) - May 14, 1956 Deceased Name: Bertram B. Udell Bertram B. Udell, 78, of 302 Park av., Wilmette, died yesterday in Evanston hospital. He retired the first of the year from a printing business which he operated for many years in Wilmette. In the mid-1920's, when he was publishing a paper known as the Wilmette Announcements, he conducted a feud with Wilmette and Evanston police over what he described as speed traps. He leaves his widow, Tenna; two daughters, Mrs. Matthew A. Conrad and Mrs. Adolph H. Moeller; three sons, Clare, Edwin, and Lloyd; a sister, Mrs. Ruth Cope, and a brother., Paul. Services will be held at 1:30 p.m. tomorrow in the chapel at 1100 Greenleaf av., Wilmette. Edition: Chicago Tribune Copyright 1956, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. since the family came from Rantoul in Champaign county, I used google to locate: Urbana(Champaign Co)Free Library Champaign county Historical and Genealogy Name Index http://ccha.tufl.org/ccha/indexes/anau.htm click on each UDELL and it gives what info they have. Might also use IL State Archives Indexes start with global search http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html find anything you need copies of contact molly kennedy mollx.com Good Hunting If I can help more let me know Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chatterchit Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12813.1.1.3.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sounds promising! Does the record include their ages? That would help to confirm if it's them. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: zwvirtual Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12823.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the information. It helped me to confirm the family cemetery is more than likely Irving Park Cemetery. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kzavada Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12823.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: dal's obit Chicago Tribune (IL) - August 09, 1949 Deceased Name: STROMAN Dal Stroman, beloved husband of Stella A., loving father of Ethel Jaskol, Eva, Clayton, and Vivian, grandfather of three. Resting at chapel, 2410 W. North avenue. Service Wednesday, at 2 p.m. Interment Irving Park cemetery. Edition: Chicago Tribune Copyright 1949, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. none found for stella obit of daughter etherl Jaskol Chicago Tribune (IL) - May 27, 1982 Deceased Name: JASKOL Ethel G. Jaskol, beloved wife of the late Walter; dearest mother of Vivian (Bernard) Cunningham and Robert; loving grandmother of Cathleen Cunningham; dear daughter of Stella Stroman; fond sister of Eva (Bill) Burkhardt, Clayton (Joan) Stroman and Vivian (Bob) Toblesky. Funeral service Friday, 11 a.m., at the Irvingwood Presbyterian Church, 3900 N. Plainfield. Lying in state from 10 a.m. Interment Irving Park Cemetery. Visitation Thursday 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. at the Schielka Funeral Home, 7710 W. Addison St. 625-3444 Edition: Chicago Tribune Copyright 1982, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. try contacting Irving park cemetery http://www.irvingparkcemetery.com/dm20/en_US/locations/62/6238/index.page family search pilot website http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home under illinois deaths and stillbirths STROMAN Charles born 9 sep 1909 died chicago 27 oct 1909 occupation collector spouse gertrude father DELL STROMAN born Savanah,Ohio mother Stella JENSIK born cleveland,ohio burial Irving Park cemetery also has a death of daughter in 1929 father DAL STROMAN born Savanah Ohio mother Stella JENSICK born cleveland ohio burial Montrose cem. That's all I could find Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: zwvirtual Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12823/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for some information on a couple of the Stroman family members. Stella Stroman (nee Jensik) 3 May 1890 to 8 Sep 1983, died in Chicago. Looking for an obituary and/or where she is buried. Dal Harrison Stroman 22 Jun 1880 to 8 Aug 1949, died in Chicago. Looking for an obituary and/or where he is buried. Thank you, Ray Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12821.6.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are most welcome - like Dick said - nothing you cannot do yourself, once you have the general idea as to how to go about it. What I have found needs to be verified with actual births, marriages etc but pretty sure on the right track. With the "backbone" sorted you can then carry on. Just remember, especially on census, that nick-names were often used rather than their given names and, spelling can be all over the place so, be a little creative on phoentic spellings if necessary Good luck Ell Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jjteacher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12821.6.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ELL spain, My goodness, This is my first search and you are amazing. Geting to this site is the first thing my cousin told me to research on. I appreciate your talents and information. It means so much to me. Jj Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jjteacher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12821.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much Julia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jjteacher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12821.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dick, Thank you for the info. My cousin has gotten pretty good with this stuff so when her and I have time she can teach me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dicktague58 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12821.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Good morning JJ, None of us are born genealogists. Regardless of our vocations or avocations in life, we all had to learn to crawl before we could walk. You will learn quickly and continuously as you progress in your research. Good genealogy research volunteers will always offer us suggestions on how to accomplish this and when need be, how to post a good request that will provide beneficial responses. In this instance you received some data that helps with your Udell family but it's nothing that you could not have done on your own. Nor did you learn anything that will help you in future research. I am always here to answer any genealogy questions you may have. Dick dicktague@devtex.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: UDELL Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12821.6.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Helen M Udell Birth: 1851 Death: 1923 Inscription: Wife of Edwin Burial: Maplewood Cemetery Rantoul Champaign County Illinois, USA Plot: Sect 31, Lot 8A Edwin J Udell Birth: 1838 Death: 1903 Inscription: Husband to Helen Burial: Maplewood Cemetery Rantoul Champaign County Illinois, USA Plot: Sect 31, Lot 8B Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: UDELL Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12821.6/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1900 Name: Edwin J Udel PUBLISHER OF PAPER Home in 1900: Rantoul, Champaign, Illinois Age: 61 Birth Date: Oct 1838 Birthplace: New York Race: White Gender: Male Relationship to Head of House: Head Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's Birthplace: New York Spouse's name: Helen M Udel Marriage Year: 1865 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 35 Name: Helen M Udel [Hellen M Udel] Home in 1900: Rantoul, Champaign, Illinois Age: 48 Birth Date: Feb 1852 Birthplace: Illinois Race: White Gender: Female Relationship to Head of House: Wife Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania Mother: number of living children: 8 Mother: How many children: 9 Spouse's name: Edwin J Udel Marriage Year: 1865 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 35 Name: John L Udel Home in 1900: Rantoul, Champaign, Illinois Age: 14 Birth Date: Oct 1885 Birthplace: Illinois Race: White Gender: Male Relationship to Head of House: Son Name: Paul L Udel Home in 1900: Rantoul, Champaign, Illinois Age: 14 Birth Date: Oct 1885 Birthplace: Illinois Race: White Gender: Male Relationship to Head of House: Son Name: Ruth Udel Home in 1900: Rantoul, Champaign, Illinois Age: 11 Birth Date: Dec 1888 Birthplace: Illinois Race: White Gender: Female Relationship to Head of House: Daughter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: UDELL Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12821.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: WW2 DRAFT Name: John Lee Udell PRINTER & PUBLISHING Birth Date: 21 Oct 1885 Birth Place: Rantoul, Illinois Residence: Highland, Illinois WIFE: NELLIE Race: White Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: UDELL Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.unknown/12821.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: WW1 DRAFT 12TH SEP 1918 Name: John Lee Udell PUBLISHER & PRINTER WIFE NELLIE UDELL County: Lake State: Illinois Birth Date: 21 Oct 1885 Race: White MED HEIGHT & BUILD BLUE EYES LT BROWN HAIR FHL Roll Number: 1614031 DraftBoard: 1 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.