This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/2835.1.1 Message Board Post: I think there is some connection. Can you send me some data about this lady, so I'll check in the records od Canischio and send you a reply. Rosa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ferro Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/2835.1 Message Board Post: I have a g g g great grandmother Francesca Maria Maddelena Ferro from Canischio. is she a relative of yours?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Chiavario Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5809 Message Board Post: I need info about the descendants of Giorgio Chiavario born in Italy in 1856 and his wife Maria Elisabetta Chiavario born in Italy in 1866. I think they lived in Seattonville, IL. Any info will be appreciated. Rosa

Linda, Stories like yours are helping to convince me that my four sources will top the death certificate. I will of course keep the death cert. date and cite it. The funny thing is, the place of death is 100 miles from his home. I don't know how that contributes to the misinformation. The death certificate also gives his time of death as 6 am. A funeral director emailed me privately and said that often the date of death will show up incorrectly when it's in the middle of the night. It may well be the case that this man was found dead when he didn't show up for breakfast or whatever and the cororner assumed that date and someone else assumed the day before. I guess I'll never really know, since it was 1884! Thanks, Doris -- BradLin000@aol.com wrote: "How likely is it that a date of death might be wrong on a death certificate?" Hi Doris, Any death certificate can have misinformation in it. My grandfather's death certificate has his father's name wrong. My step grandmother gave his brother's name instead of his father's...Charles B. instead of Charles H. Since my Great Grandfather was called by his middle name and people remembered him we knew she was wrong. All the other documents have him listed as Charles H. She was put in a nursing home not very long after that for senile dementia. My father's death certificate is also wrong. He was cremated in Haverhill, MA and the ashes buried in South Chelmsford, MA. The death certificate states that he is buried in Haverhill because the crematorium filled it out...even though they knew he was going to be buried in South Chelmsford. When we tried to change it, the procedure was pretty much going to take an act of the legislature so we dropped it. We also have a problem with the location of the cemetery. The USGIS lists the Hart (Heart aka Baptist) Pond Cemetery as being in Westford, MA. Funny, I grew up in So. Chelmsford about a mile away from that cemetery and it was always in So. Chelmsford. All my family is buried there and that is where I'll be...and I don't plan on being in Westford. I talked to someone at GIS and he got very snippy, insisting that it was entirely in Westford. That means that the town lines are wrong and most of So. Chelmsford doesn't exist. Sigh! Someone looking for this cemetery, not familiar with the area, would go to Westford and they wouldn't have it listed in the town hall. They would send them to the Chelmsford Town Hall who would send them back to So. Chelmsford. A lot of wasted time when you are not from the area and time is important. I guess the bottom line is the more documentation you have and the more sources for the same information the better off you are. If you think your ancestors are from a certain area, don't restrict yourself to one little location; spread out a little. Boundaries had a habit of changing and sometimes changing over and over. The funny thing is that Westford was originally part of Chelmsford until the 1700's. Linda Bee ==== ILROOTS Mailing List ==== There are TWO list archives, searchable two different ways. http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILROOTS-L http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILROOTS-L/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

"How likely is it that a date of death might be wrong on a death certificate?" Hi Doris, Any death certificate can have misinformation in it. My grandfather's death certificate has his father's name wrong. My step grandmother gave his brother's name instead of his father's...Charles B. instead of Charles H. Since my Great Grandfather was called by his middle name and people remembered him we knew she was wrong. All the other documents have him listed as Charles H. She was put in a nursing home not very long after that for senile dementia. My father's death certificate is also wrong. He was cremated in Haverhill, MA and the ashes buried in South Chelmsford, MA. The death certificate states that he is buried in Haverhill because the crematorium filled it out...even though they knew he was going to be buried in South Chelmsford. When we tried to change it, the procedure was pretty much going to take an act of the legislature so we dropped it. We also have a problem with the location of the cemetery. The USGIS lists the Hart (Heart aka Baptist) Pond Cemetery as being in Westford, MA. Funny, I grew up in So. Chelmsford about a mile away from that cemetery and it was always in So. Chelmsford. All my family is buried there and that is where I'll be...and I don't plan on being in Westford. I talked to someone at GIS and he got very snippy, insisting that it was entirely in Westford. That means that the town lines are wrong and most of So. Chelmsford doesn't exist. Sigh! Someone looking for this cemetery, not familiar with the area, would go to Westford and they wouldn't have it listed in the town hall. They would send them to the Chelmsford Town Hall who would send them back to So. Chelmsford. A lot of wasted time when you are not from the area and time is important. I guess the bottom line is the more documentation you have and the more sources for the same information the better off you are. If you think your ancestors are from a certain area, don't restrict yourself to one little location; spread out a little. Boundaries had a habit of changing and sometimes changing over and over. The funny thing is that Westford was originally part of Chelmsford until the 1700's. Linda Bee

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5808.1 Message Board Post: Here are the obits for Fred Sandstrom, he died in 1962. I could not locate any article about Fred being injured in the line of duty. Hope these help you, Barb 1962-12-21 Chicago Tribune (IL) Sandstrom Edition: Chicago Tribune Fred F. Sandstrom, C. F. D., of 732 Florence avenue, Evanston, beloved husband of Mary Folzer Sandstrom; fond father of Mrs. Audrey Kornack, Eugene and Dorothy Sandstrom; stepfather of Joseph, Donald, Frank, and John Carlborg, Mrs. Nancy Hile, and Mrs. Patricia Swartnes; also 24 grandchildren and stepgrandchildren; brother of Mrs. Florence Lindblom of California, and Mrs. Bernice Norland. Funeral Saturday, 2 p.m., at Fitzgerald & Karsten Funeral Home, 1571 Maple avenue, Evanston. Interment Graceland cemetery. UN 9-2900. 1962-12-21 Chicago Tribune (IL) Fred F. Sandstrom Edition: Chicago Tribune Fred F. Sandstrom, 59, of 731 Florence av., Evanston, a Chicago fireman for 20 years, died last night in his home. He was assigned to hook and ladder company 38. Surviving are his widow, Mary; two daughters, Mrs. Audrey Kornock and Dorbthy; a son, Eugene; four stepsons, Joseph, Donald, Frank, and John Carlborg; two stepdaughters, Mrs. Nancy Hile and Mrs. Pat Swartness; and two sisters. Services will be held at 2 p.m. tomorrow in the chapel at 1571 Maple av., Evanston.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sandstrom Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5808 Message Board Post: We are looking for information on a Chicago firefighter last name Sandstrom that died in the line of duty in the 1950's. He has three children Audrey, Eugene and Dorthy in that birth order.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: albright/tucker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5807 Message Board Post: does anyone know about them? married jan 17,1906 in quincy,illinois adams county,can anyone do a look up in the libary about their marriage....verena helen tucker is kin, verena remarried 1907 to william jasper houston jan 1907 in quincy illinois adams county,need their wedding too.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Fh.2ADI/5805.1.2 Message Board Post: thank you so much i have a flyer fom the wodack tool company .appeciate the information . where did you find the picture you have ? ill try e bay i punched it up but can never find anything if you find any site could you e mail it to m again thank you for your time i appreciate all you have sent.colleen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Fh.2ADI/5805.1.1 Message Board Post: thank you so much i have a flyer fom the wodack tool company .appeciate the information . where did you find the picture you have ? ill try e bay i punched it up but can never find anything if you find any site could you e mail it to m again thank you for your time i appreciate all you have sent.colleen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Fh.2ADI/5805.2.1 Message Board Post: thank you it will help im trying to find a connection if oscar was a brother of thomas wodack of milwaukee and if any one is familure with the tools made by the wodack tool company . your help is greatly appreciated thankyou for the information . colleen

I have ran into a lot of miss information on death certificates , Death certificates are only as correct as the informent. And this one is made out after the fact, there for I would take the Bible information as fact. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <doriswaggoner@juno.com> To: <ILROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: [ILROOTS] Death Certificate Errors? > > How likely is it that a date of death might be wrong on a death certificate? > > My ancestor, Nicholas S. Bastion, lived in Sullivan, Moultrie Co, SE of Springfield. But he died in Fowler, Adams Co, on the Mississippii above St. Louis. I have the family Bible, in which his wife wrote the date of his death as Feb 23, 1884. An obit dated Feb 28, from Shelby Co, next to Moultrie Co., where he had previously lived, also gave Feb 23. A biography by the Methodist church and an obit by the Disciples of Christ church (he had been a minister in each) also gave the Feb 23 date. > > However, his death certificate gives the date of death as Feb 24, 1884. It was not filled out until after his burial in Sullivan, because it notes that he was buried there Feb. 27. > > Granted that some of the four sources with the Feb 23 date may be dependent on each other, all are contemporary. So what am I to make of the fact that they all contradict the death certificate date? > > Has anybody run into cases from this era where the death certificate has the date of death wrong? > > Thanks, > Doris Waggoner > Seattle > > > ==== ILROOTS Mailing List ==== > If you don't know where or when, in Illinois, an event in your ancestor's life might have occurred, you might be able to find a clue in how to search for this information at the Illinois GenWeb Project's - Unknown IL Counties Web Site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilunknow/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5805.2 Message Board Post: Colleen, Here are some obits for the Wodack family. Oscar P. Wodack was the owner of the company from what I have been able to find. 1940-10-05 Chicago Tribune (IL) WODACK Edition: Chicago Tribune --George A. Wodack, late of Roseville, Cal., brother of Oscar P. and Minnie W. Pierce. Funeral Monday, 2 p.m., at chapel, 810 N. Clark street, under auspices of King Oscar lodge, No. 855, A. F. & A. M. Interment Waldheim. Superior 0056.1966-10-11 1946-05-22 Chicago Tribune (IL) PIERCE Edition: Chicago Tribune --Minnie Wodack Pierce, wife of Frank W. Pierce, sister of Oscar P. Wodack and the late George A. Wodack. Burial at Roseville, Cal., May 17. 1949-03-14 Chicago Tribune (IL) WODACK Edition: Chicago Tribune Adele K. Wodack, of 726 Park avenue, River Forest, nee Von der Heide wife of Oscar P. Wodack, mother of Marjorie Primrose, sister of Marie Trams, Claude, George, Louis and Frank Von der Heide. Service at funeral home, 203 S. Marion street (Wisconsin avenue), Oak Park, Tuesday, 3 p.m. Past president of Women of The Rotary of Chicago. In lieu of flowers make donation to Woman of Rotary clubs crippled children fund. Burial Waldheim. 1956-11-21 Chicago Tribune (IL) WODACK Edition: Chicago Tribune --Michael [Wodajczyk] Wodack, late of 1528 W. Haddon avenue, beloved husband of Rose; dear brother of Mary Piotrowski and Stanley. Funeral Friday, 9 a.m., from parlors, 834-838 N. Ashland avenue, to St. Boniface's church. Interment St. Joseph's. HAymarket 1-5800. 1963-09-24 Chicago Tribune (IL) Wodack Edition: Chicago Tribune Rose [Wodajczyk] Wodack, wife of the late Michael; sister of Mrs. William M. Heine. Funeral Wednesday, 9 a.m., from the Rowland Home for Funerals, 4152 Sheridan road, at Buena, to St. Mary of the Lake church. Mass 9:30. Interment St. Joseph. BI 8-1536. 1966-10-11 Chicago Tribune (IL) Wodack Edition: Chicago Tribune Oscar P. Wodack, husband of Gertrude M.; father of Mrs. Lewis C. Primrose; grandfather of Mrs. Dale Johns, Mrs. Gloria Hogan, and Charles W. Primrose; great-grandfather of David Hogan. Visitation 3 to 5 and 7 to 9 p.m. Tuesday at Dreschler-Brown Funeral Home, 203 S. Marion street [Wisconsin avenue], Oak Park. Services 11 a.m. Wednesday. Interment private. Member of Welcome lodge, No. 916, A. F. & A. M.; Medinah Temple, and Chicago Rotary club. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be sent to the Women of Rotary, Crippled Children's fund. EU 3-3191 1974-12-23 Chicago Tribune (IL) WODACK Edition: Chicago Tribune Gertrude M. Wodack, age 88, of Waukegan, Ill., beloved wife of the late Oscar P. Wodack; dear mother of Mrs. Margaret (Henry) Fisher and Mrs. Gertrude (Donald) Lundquist of Waukegan; fond grandmother of Benjamin F. Troxell Ill, Deborah W. Troxell and Julie Anne Lundquist; two great-grandchildren. Private services 2 p.m. Monday, Dec. 23, Graceland Chapel. Interment Graceland Cemetery, Chicago. 623-0495.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5805.1 Message Board Post: Hi Colleen, The Wodack Tool Company seems to still be in Chicago and is now called Wodack Electric Tool. The address is 4627 West Huron, Chicago, Illinois 60644 (773) 287-9866. I also found an old advertisement which I have attached below. Check ebay, there are Wodack tools on that site. Barb

How likely is it that a date of death might be wrong on a death certificate? My ancestor, Nicholas S. Bastion, lived in Sullivan, Moultrie Co, SE of Springfield. But he died in Fowler, Adams Co, on the Mississippii above St. Louis. I have the family Bible, in which his wife wrote the date of his death as Feb 23, 1884. An obit dated Feb 28, from Shelby Co, next to Moultrie Co., where he had previously lived, also gave Feb 23. A biography by the Methodist church and an obit by the Disciples of Christ church (he had been a minister in each) also gave the Feb 23 date. However, his death certificate gives the date of death as Feb 24, 1884. It was not filled out until after his burial in Sullivan, because it notes that he was buried there Feb. 27. Granted that some of the four sources with the Feb 23 date may be dependent on each other, all are contemporary. So what am I to make of the fact that they all contradict the death certificate date? Has anybody run into cases from this era where the death certificate has the date of death wrong? Thanks, Doris Waggoner Seattle

The death certificate could easily be wrong and the difference of one day in this case may be intepretation, especially if the death took place in the late (or early) hours of the day. Michael Information on Getting IL Death Certificates and Using the Online Indexes http://www.rootdig.com/illinoisdeathcertificates.html On Apr 1, 2005 11:54 PM, Janstpls@aol.com <Janstpls@aol.com> wrote: > Hi Doris,,,,,,,,I dont have wrong death date but I have wrong > birthdate..(yr).........and name was spelled janine......should have been > janice..............I just caught this when I was going to draw social security......only reason > because they couldnt find me listed...............so they typed in parents > and got the one I wanted. > I also have great great grandmother........death record says > she was buried one place, newspaper says another and both places say shes not > there.....................so go figure........this was 1929 too..not so long > ago she may have gotten lost. > thanks for your time Jan > > > ==== ILROOTS Mailing List ==== > If you don't know where or when, in Illinois, an event in your ancestor's life might have occurred, you might be able to find a clue in how to search for this information at the Illinois GenWeb Project's - Unknown IL Counties Web Site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilunknow/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > -- Michael John Neill Computer Genealogy Workshop-Dearborn, Michigan May 2005 http://www.rootdig.com/michiganmay2005.html

Hi Doris,,,,,,,,I dont have wrong death date but I have wrong birthdate..(yr).........and name was spelled janine......should have been janice..............I just caught this when I was going to draw social security......only reason because they couldnt find me listed...............so they typed in parents and got the one I wanted. I also have great great grandmother........death record says she was buried one place, newspaper says another and both places say shes not there.....................so go figure........this was 1929 too..not so long ago she may have gotten lost. thanks for your time Jan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Fh.2ADI/5806 Message Board Post: Can anyone tell me how to contact the Roseland Mutual Aid Society. We have several life insurance policies with them and I was not able to find them on the web? Thanks, Mark

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5594.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, this is the Jordan of the Pasco- Huminsky clan. I ran across your message while playing around on the net, so I thought I would respond to see how you were doing. I also find it very interesting about how we all came to be and what better place to start than with Pops. If you need any help let me know and keep me posted.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Fh.2ADI/5805 Message Board Post: looking for information on wodack tool company in illinois or the wodack name any information would be appreciated.any one have old tools from the wodacktool company or photos . thank you colleen