This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Fh.2ADI/5911.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Becki, I will email you directly. Please let me know if you do not receive my email. Debbie

Hi Brenda, Your Email sounds familiar. What kind of information do you need? There's a ton of information at the Illinois State Archives online databases. You must know the county they lived in since you have the copy of their marriage license. This is the address for the Archives. A global search just worked for me, just put in the last name and a comma. It will show you all the databases that have that surname. It's better not to put in the first name because it might be Charles, Chas. or even Charlie. _http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html_ (http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html) Joan

Thanks, Linda. I think it's very reasonable too, especially with "lung complt" just 4 lines down. Joan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5911.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much Debbie, Any info that you have or can get on my great grandparents I would love it. I do see errors I underdtand DOB may often be off but would middle name be that way also? I just found out that James was murder around the time Leah was 10yrs old. Now that I know his parents info I thought about asking for his birth cerfti. Thank you again and if you have any ideas on where to get information also please let me know. There were no records kept. Becki

I also sent a query to the U.S. Census Bureau about the abbreviation "Jno". From the answer below you can tell they weren't helpful. I do remember reading that "Jno" could stand for either John or Jonathan. I know it was on a genealogy website and it was years ago. I never saved the link or the information because I knew the first names of the people I wanted to find on the census. I wish now that I had. This website states the opposite: GenDocs Genealogy Services ~ Genealogical Abbreviations and Acronyms http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/abbr.html From Roots-L a mixed response, although most said John: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/roots-l/messages/00feb/126704 Nice little dissertation on this. "Jno" http://www.serv.net/~camel/wodehouse/jno.html Look at 'Transcribers notes': ISTG Vol 2 - RMS City of Berlin http://www.immigrantships.net/v2/1800v2/berlinco18761009.html JNO as 1st Name Family History http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,61521.from1117190148/topicseen.html Jno. B. Lee Company, Randy Jensen, Minnetonka, Minnesota, SAMS®-AMS®, Company Background http://www.marinesurveyor.com/lee/bground.html From the mid-1700's See the second 'Glossary' about 1/4 of the way down the page. ACCOUNT BOOK TRANSCRIPTIONS http://www.memorialhall.mass.edu/classroom/curriculum_6th/lesson6/acctbks.html J - Combs &c. Glossary http://www.combs-families.org/combs/reference/glossary/j.html Naming Practices among the Yancey FamilyBy Dennis J Yancey http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/7647/naming.htm Latin names in Old Documents http://www.british-genealogy.com/resources/registers/registers/latinnames.htm 'Jno' is an old abbreviation found in earlier times and on the earlier censuses. I find it puzzling that where ever you see 'Jno' as the abbreviation for John, you find no abbreviation at all for Jonathan. From the above websites, I get the impression that 'Jno' was legally short for John but some people used it for Jonathan....which gets you nowhere!<g> I guess the best way to solve your individual 'Jno' meaning is to find him somewhere else with his full name written out. I would search using both John and Jonathan. Linda Bee Subj: "Jno" first name abbreviation [Incident: 050613-000006]  Date: 6/17/2005 1:12:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: askcensus@custhelp.com  Subject "Jno" first name abbreviation    Discussion Thread  Response (HIST - CAB) 06/17/2005 13:12 Unfortunately, we just have no way knowing what that means. Our Measuring America publication has instructions to enumerators, but I don't recall it covering abbreviated names. You can check the publication for future reference also. From our homepage, select Publications, then select General and Reference, then from the table select Measuring America – or http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/ma.html. History Staff    Question Reference #050613-000006 Category Level 1:  People Date Created:  06/13/2005 08:51 Last Updated:  06/17/2005 13:12 Status:  Pending Closure

The U. S. Census bureau couldn't help with this. I checked the instructions for three census years and couldn't find anything that would fit 'lives complete'. I think 'liver complaint' sounds reasonable. There were no absolute standards of abbreviation for a lot of words then, especially considering how many census takers there were and the various levels of education. Some enumerators followed their instructions to the letter and some seemed to ignore them. Some of the instructions seem funny or prejudicial now. I found myself grinning or gasping...'How could they ask THAT?' Linda Bee Subj: explanation of term "lives complete" [Incident: 050613-000005]  Date: 6/17/2005 1:19:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: askcensus@custhelp.com Recently you requested an answer from the US Census Bureau's Question & Answer Center. Below is a summary of your request and our response. We will assume your issue has been resolved if we do not hear from you within 48 hours. Thank you for allowing us to be of service to you. To update your question from the US Census Bureau's Question & Answer Center, click here.  Subject explanation of term "lives complete"    Discussion Thread  Response (HIST - CAB) 06/17/2005 13:19 Unfortunately we have no way knowing what the enumerator was referring to. The instructions to enumerators (Measuring America) for that census year may have included the way ailments were recorded. We can also mail you this free pub if you aren't able to access it online. History Staff    Question Reference #050613-000005 Date Created:  06/13/2005 08:37 Last Updated:  06/17/2005 13:19 Status:  Pending Closure Cc: 

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Fh.2ADI/1144.1872 Message Board Post: Hello, My Great Grandparents are Emma and Charles Colvin. My Grandmother Jessie was their daughter. They were married in Springfield Illinois September 7, 1899, I have a copy of their marriage license. Would love to hear from you. Brenda

The 1855 and 1865 IL state census are indexed at the Illinois State Archives. The index is NOT online. The archives will search it and the Family History Library may have it. These indexes are head of household only. Counties in Illinois did not conduct their own censuses. They may have duplicate copies of some censuses, but none that they performed themselves. Michael www.rootdig.com On 6/16/05, Chris Martin <chrismartin6@cox.net> wrote: > > > Hello I am looking for either a state wide census for Illinois in the years > of 1855 and 1865. Do they exist? > > > > My ancestors lived in Knox and Peoria Counties. Did counties ever conduct > their own censuses??? > > > > If you have any info about IL state censuses it would be a big help as my > great great grandfather (Elias Oscar MARTIN) was born December of 1860, > missing the 1860 Federal Census. > > > > > > Christopher Martin > > Omaha, NE > > ChrisMartin6@cox.net > > > > > > > > ==== ILROOTS Mailing List ==== > Please remember when replying to a query REPLY TO THE LIST so your message goes out to the entire list. This will ensure that the information is archived, which may be of help to someone else in the future. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > -- Michael John Neill http://www.rootdig.com/

Hello I am looking for either a state wide census for Illinois in the years of 1855 and 1865. Do they exist? My ancestors lived in Knox and Peoria Counties. Did counties ever conduct their own censuses??? If you have any info about IL state censuses it would be a big help as my great great grandfather (Elias Oscar MARTIN) was born December of 1860, missing the 1860 Federal Census. Christopher Martin Omaha, NE ChrisMartin6@cox.net

It was in this column Maimed, Crippled, Bedridden, or otherwise disabled and it's for Anna Pearson, wife of Lars, in Thornton, Cook County, Illinois Have you followed the thread? Daraleen thinks it reads "liver complaint." Someone else wrote to me and said that 4 lines down there's a entry for "lung Complt" Maybe I misread lives for liver and I would never have though that complt would stand for complaint. I wasn't smart enough at the time to look further than the family I was researching. Thanks for your interest. It will be interesting to hear what they have to say. Joan

I wrote to the U.S. Census Bureau about the term 'lives complete'. They would like a little more information. Specifically, what column did it appear under. They are assuming that if I don't reply within 48 hours that the issue is resolved. Since it was a query from someone else, I need that person to let me know so I can let the Census Bureau know. (Did you understand that? Kind of convoluted.) Linda Bee explanation of term "lives complete" [Incident: 050613-000005]   Subject explanation of term "lives complete"    Discussion Thread  Response (HIST - CAB) 06/16/2005 16:38 Can you give us more detail from the form, i.e. what column is it under? Going by just the term, we have no idea what it means. Thank you, History Staf    Question Reference #050613-000005 Date Created:  06/13/2005 08:37 Last Updated:  06/16/2005 16:38 Status:  Pending Closure Cc: 

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ELLIOTS SHOEMAKERS Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5916 Message Board Post: any 1 out there can find me james elliot born in scotland 1820 wife janet elliot nee murdie. he had 10 cildren john=thomas=martha=william=henry=andrew=george=annamariah=james all moved to buffalo new york in 1871 & then moved to chicago . they had 1 son robert born in canada in 1863 before they went to USA THEY WERE ALL SHOE MAKERS . GILLY

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: james elliot shoe maker Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5915 Message Board Post: Hi any 1 out there who can tell me if there are any elliots living & alive that are ancestors of james elliot . they were living at 443 austin avenue (west town) illinois chicago in 1899.he was a shoe maker . gilly

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5914 Message Board Post: Hi all, The Illinois page in the GenealogyBuff.com library ( http://www.genealogybuff.com/library.htm ) has the following data sets: Early Illinois Newspaper Extracts Search Miscellaneous Illinois Obituaries Associated with Western IL University - 1 Miscellaneous Illinois Obituaries Associated with Western IL University - 2 Champaign County - Miscellaneous Deaths I Champaign County - Miscellaneous Deaths II Champaign County - Miscellaneous Deaths III Champaign County - Miscellaneous Deaths IV Champaign County - Miscellaneous Deaths V Cook County - Official Death Record - Dec 1907 Cook County - Northwestern University Obituaries (Alumni & Faculty) Cook County - Barrington Vital Records Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 1 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 2 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 3 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 4 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 5 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 6 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 7 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 8 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 9 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 10 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 11 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 12 Cook County - Miscellaneous Obituaries - 13 WWI Casualties of American Army Overseas Henderson County - Stronghurst Deaths 1999 Henderson County - Stronghurst Deaths 2000 Henderson County - Stronghurst Deaths 2001 Henderson County - Stronghurst Deaths 2002 Henderson County - Stronghurst Deaths 2003 Henderson County - Stronghurst Deaths 2004 Kankakee County - Miscellaneous Marriages Macon County - Obituary Index 1997-2000 Sangamon County - Fox Valley Obituary Index 1999 Hope this helps. Bill Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com

Reviewing all my note and find that there was a Euchner mentioned in an article published 1859 - Tazewell Register - and Tazewell Republican in both 1860 and 1861 and Washington Investigator 1858 and 1859 could someone send copies. Thank you - Ronald Grant Euchner

Hi - Do you know how old either of them would be and where they were born? Any children? Priscilla -----Original Message----- From: gilbert@gilbertscott.wanadoo.co.uk Sent: Jun 15, 2005 11:41 AM To: ILROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILROOTS] THOMAS ELLIOT SHOE MAKER This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ELLIOT SHOE MAKER Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5912 Message Board Post: TRYING TO FIND INFO ON THOMAS ELLIOT SHOE MAKER HIS WIFE ISABELLA ELLIOT NEE MORROW IN CHICAGO. ISABELLA WAS LISTED AS A WIDOW IN 1903 IN THE CITY DIRECTORY. I THINK HE WAS A MOUNTAIN CLIMBER AS WELL AS A SHOE MAKER ANY HELP WOULD BE NICE. GILLY ==== ILROOTS Mailing List ==== Illinois Regional Archives Depositories (IRAD) records available at: http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/irad/iradholdings.html ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: THOMAS ELLIOT SHOE MAKER Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5912.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi BARB THOMAS ELLIOT IS MY GR=GR=GR=GR=GRAND FATHER COULD YOU SEND ME A CENSUS PLEASE GILLY

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: THOMAS ELLIOT SHOE MAKER Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5913 Message Board Post: Hi BARB I AM NEW ON COMPUTER SO I PUT IT ON HERE THOMAS ELLIOT IS MY GR=GR=GR=GR GRAND FATHER . THANKS FOR THE INFO CAN YOU SEND ME A CENSUS PLEASE . GILLY

Hello List, I'm new to the list and do not know much about the state of ILL. My name is Linda from Ohio and I'm researching some back ground history on my father Howard Parrott. My father went to a place in Chicago, ILL for school after he got out of the service. I have a cert. here that says the following. Chicago Motive Trades Institute Division of Commercial Trades Institute Body and Fender Rebuilding Chicago, ILL 31 day of March 1950 My Q is ? Would everyone know about this Institute ? What is look like ? Does it still stand today ? If so, anyone have an address ? I have many more Q ?, but is a start. Please make all replies to the list. Thank you so much Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Fh.2ADI/5912.1 Message Board Post: Hi Gilly, You don't state what info your are exactly looking for. I found the family in the 1900 census of Chicago here is their info: Thomas Elliot (54) born April 1846 in Scotland, parents born in Scotland. Married for 25 yrs, immigrated in 1860, been in the States 40 yrs and is naturalized. Occupation was shoe maker. Isabel (37, wife) born Jan 1863 in Canada as were her parents, immigrated in 1885 and has been in the States for 15 yrs, 9 children all surviving. Children all born in Illinois: Freddie (12) born Aug 1888, John (10) born Jan 1890, Geo (8) born Mar 1892, Eddie (6) born Jan 1894, Mabel (?) born Oct 1899. Address was 443 Austin Avenue (West Town). If you would like the census page just email me. Barb