You'd think so wouldn't you, personally I wouldn't know first hand, I just made note of an exchange I came across on the net about a year ago, and emailed them the location. Beyond that I haven't had any particular interest in it in regards to my own research so haven't gone in to it to see if there was anything else available. And if you've ever had anything to do with these big companies, then you know how much fun it can be to get a question answered. :) >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Watertown St Hosp - type of hospital? >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:21:09 EDT > >If the John Deere company paid to move these people, wouldn't they have >some >kind of records? > >Cathy > > >==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== >~ SUBJECT LINES ~ >Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The >4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

Right but those moved, well I guess they haven't been able to locate a list as to just which ones they were or which burial site belongs to who. Guess I'm going to have to find my notes to get the name of the cemetery they were supposedly moved too. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Watertown St Hosp - type of hospital? >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:33:03 EDT > >There is list of all the people that are buried in the East Moline State >Hospital Cemetery at the Rock Island County Historical Society Library. >Bev > > >==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== >*** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, a business trip? *** >Send an email with one word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject and Message >area to: [email protected] Digest? Replace "L" with "D". > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

Awww maybe that's what they were trying to say. Records were merged and that's all I could make out of it all as no one was exactly sure, never having been there themselves. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Re: older newspapers (Plus ? museum) >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:16:34 EDT > >The address of the Rock Island County Historical Society is 822 - 11th >Avenue, Moline. It has been there for many years. They just recently >acquired the >Genealogy Section of the Moline Public Library. They have many old >newspapers >including the Port Byron Globe, Census on microfilm, biographies, Marriage >Records from 1833 to 1900, Cemetery Readings, City Directories, 40,500 >names in >their obituary database, Civil War Records and many other records of Rock >Island >County. > >Bev > > >==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== >Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your >wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to >browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

As far as I know there is no new museum. There is the Rock Island Historical Society located behind the Butterworth Center in Moline, IL. It consists of an old house which has been turned into a museum and a newer section holding all old records, newspapers, etc. I was just there recently. They recently moved all old records from the Moline Public Library to the Rock Island Historical Society. I hope this is clear for you. The messages were very confusing. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "theresa" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Re: older newspapers (Plus ? museum) > I must say, this whole topic is VERY confusing for one reading it and not > living in the Rock Island area......I cannot determine which of you is > correct or if I am just not understanding the messages. Is there actually > a new building? Has the Rock Island Historical Building acquired new > microfilms and documents and relocated them from the Library into their own > building? Is the Library next door to the Rock Island Historical Building > and now they are working together? Is the Rock Island Historical Building > in the same building as the Library? As you can see I am quite confused as > all of the above questions relate directly to conclusions I have come to > from the variety of e-mails responding the the statement that there is a new > museum or geneology based structure in Moline. > I suspect if I am confused others are also. I would like to know how > to access these documents, newspapers, etc. Which address and building name > does one write to. I intend on visiting in the next year and would like to > know if these are two separate locations or one? > Thanks, Theresa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:16 AM > Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Re: older newspapers (Plus ? museum) > > > > The address of the Rock Island County Historical Society is 822 - 11th > > Avenue, Moline. It has been there for many years. They just recently > acquired the > > Genealogy Section of the Moline Public Library. They have many old > newspapers > > including the Port Byron Globe, Census on microfilm, biographies, Marriage > > Records from 1833 to 1900, Cemetery Readings, City Directories, 40,500 > names in > > their obituary database, Civil War Records and many other records of Rock > Island > > County. > > > > Bev > > > > > > ==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== > > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your > > wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to > > browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== > ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ > -- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I'm just going by what I've been told, no one was susre just what it was all about or what all they had there. Just that they'd consolidated the surrounding areas records. I'll have to try and pay them a visit soon. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Re: older newspapers (Plus ? museum) >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:04:34 EDT > >You are talking about The Rock Island Historical Society as the library is >a >new building but connected to the Historical House which is a museum. > >Marilyn >IL > > >==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== >~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ >Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. >Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

I must say, this whole topic is VERY confusing for one reading it and not living in the Rock Island area......I cannot determine which of you is correct or if I am just not understanding the messages. Is there actually a new building? Has the Rock Island Historical Building acquired new microfilms and documents and relocated them from the Library into their own building? Is the Library next door to the Rock Island Historical Building and now they are working together? Is the Rock Island Historical Building in the same building as the Library? As you can see I am quite confused as all of the above questions relate directly to conclusions I have come to from the variety of e-mails responding the the statement that there is a new museum or geneology based structure in Moline. I suspect if I am confused others are also. I would like to know how to access these documents, newspapers, etc. Which address and building name does one write to. I intend on visiting in the next year and would like to know if these are two separate locations or one? Thanks, Theresa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Re: older newspapers (Plus ? museum) > The address of the Rock Island County Historical Society is 822 - 11th > Avenue, Moline. It has been there for many years. They just recently acquired the > Genealogy Section of the Moline Public Library. They have many old newspapers > including the Port Byron Globe, Census on microfilm, biographies, Marriage > Records from 1833 to 1900, Cemetery Readings, City Directories, 40,500 names in > their obituary database, Civil War Records and many other records of Rock Island > County. > > Bev > > > ==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your > wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to > browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

There is list of all the people that are buried in the East Moline State Hospital Cemetery at the Rock Island County Historical Society Library. Bev

The address of the Rock Island County Historical Society is 822 - 11th Avenue, Moline. It has been there for many years. They just recently acquired the Genealogy Section of the Moline Public Library. They have many old newspapers including the Port Byron Globe, Census on microfilm, biographies, Marriage Records from 1833 to 1900, Cemetery Readings, City Directories, 40,500 names in their obituary database, Civil War Records and many other records of Rock Island County. Bev

In a message dated 9/20/2003 10:09:06 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The only thing on the death cert that helps me think it is for the person I'm trying to locate is the mention that his remains were taken to Amboy, Lee, IL, which is where Perhaps your person was released from the State Hospital???? I could happen. Depending on the date also as when it was closed all the patients were released.

In a message dated 9/20/2003 5:49:38 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Watertown St Hospital. It was a hospital for the Mentally ill and way back then they use the word "insane". My aunt worked there for a short time. They also had a farm where they grew their own food. The building is still there but now is a Prison. Marilyn IL

You are talking about The Rock Island Historical Society as the library is a new building but connected to the Historical House which is a museum. Marilyn IL

"It was a hospital for the Mentally ill and way back then they use the word "insane". " Hi, Just a note, back then INSANE was a label applied to conditions that doctors couldn't cure. Such as Alcoholism, Depression, Etc. Bob

Patients without family or resources weren't so lucky I'm afraid. John Deere Company were supposedly the ones to pay for the bodies to be moved. Sure would have made it easier for some folks to find their loved ones if someone had thought to document it properly. I can't remember what cemetery they were moved too, but I'm sure it's somewhere in my notes; I just have so many of them it'd probably take me two life times to find it. :) If your loved one back then had family then chances are you will find them, just don't give up. :) Linda >From: "albertsu" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Watertown St Hosp - type of hospital? >Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:08:32 -0700 > >Thanks to those who have replied so far. >Being from IL, I rather thought the designation 'state hosp' meant >mostly the place for people with mental problems/disabilities. > >The only thing on the death cert that helps me think it is for >the person I'm trying to locate is the mention that his remains >were taken to Amboy, Lee, IL, which is where he came from. > Not cold hard proof, but helpful nonetheless. S Alberts >[email protected] > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "L MO2" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 6:49 PM >Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Watertown St Hosp - type of hospital? > > > > Watertown was the mental hospital, and the records are probably going to >be > > hard to access. It's my understanding that patients that died while >patients > > there were for the most part buried in a plot of ground marked off > > especially for them. Then much later the ground was sold off for >development > > and the folks there were disinterred and moved. >snipped > > >==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== >~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ >Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. >Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

Watertown was the mental hospital, and the records are probably going to be hard to access. It's my understanding that patients that died while patients there were for the most part buried in a plot of ground marked off especially for them. Then much later the ground was sold off for development and the folks there were disinterred and moved. It's also my understanding that no one at that time bothered to write down who all was moved. The buildings that once housed the hospital are now used as part of the prison there. Linda >From: "albertsu" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [RockIsl'd] Watertown St Hosp - type of hospital? >Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:47:32 -0700 > >Watertown St Hospital. > Rec'd a 1918 death rec for person who was said to have died in >Watertown St. Hosp. in E. Moline, Rock Island Co, IL. > Would like to know for sure what type of hospital it is. >AND has anyone been able to obtain any records from it? > >and may I say the person that filled out the cert. barely filled >in enough to show that the person died. > > could be they were busy as the cause was influenza > and seems to me 1918 was prime time for influenza deaths. >S. Alberts [email protected] > > > >==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== >~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ >Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. >Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

I'm going to have to check in to this more as two places were mentioned the one on 11th ave and a place behind Butterworth Center. That's all I know for now, if I hear anything I'll write you the details. But it was just information that was given to me in talking with one of the librarians. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Re: older newspapers (Plus ? museum) >Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:10:47 EDT > >In a message dated 9/20/2003 2:35:51 PM Central Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: >What new museum are you talking about on the border of Moline and Rock >Island? > >I would like to know that also as haven't ever heard of it. There was a >beginning of a Railroad Museum in Moline but the plans fell apart so it >does not >exist. As far as I know the only museum is at the Rock Island County >Historical Society. There are some Historic houses in the same area that >are sometimes >open for tours. > > >==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== >ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post >your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

In a message dated 9/20/2003 2:35:51 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: What new museum are you talking about on the border of Moline and Rock Island? I would like to know that also as haven't ever heard of it. There was a beginning of a Railroad Museum in Moline but the plans fell apart so it does not exist. As far as I know the only museum is at the Rock Island County Historical Society. There are some Historic houses in the same area that are sometimes open for tours.

Thanks to those who have replied so far. Being from IL, I rather thought the designation 'state hosp' meant mostly the place for people with mental problems/disabilities. The only thing on the death cert that helps me think it is for the person I'm trying to locate is the mention that his remains were taken to Amboy, Lee, IL, which is where he came from. Not cold hard proof, but helpful nonetheless. S Alberts [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "L MO2" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [RockIsl'd] Watertown St Hosp - type of hospital? > Watertown was the mental hospital, and the records are probably going to be > hard to access. It's my understanding that patients that died while patients > there were for the most part buried in a plot of ground marked off > especially for them. Then much later the ground was sold off for development > and the folks there were disinterred and moved. snipped

Hi I grew up here where Watertown is and it was a mental hospital as far as I always knew. It's a prison now. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "albertsu" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: [RockIsl'd] Watertown St Hosp - type of hospital? > Watertown St Hospital. > Rec'd a 1918 death rec for person who was said to have died in > Watertown St. Hosp. in E. Moline, Rock Island Co, IL. > Would like to know for sure what type of hospital it is. > AND has anyone been able to obtain any records from it? > > and may I say the person that filled out the cert. barely filled > in enough to show that the person died. > > could be they were busy as the cause was influenza > and seems to me 1918 was prime time for influenza deaths. > S. Alberts [email protected] > > > > ==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ > Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. > Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Barb I just checked out your link and it's the same place I was told about at the RI Library. I've been told they have a lot of things of interest. So I've just got to get in there. Alot of the records used to be out at Black Hawk but they thought they needed a building where they could house more, so if they've done that, then that's great. Linda >From: Barbara Kelley <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [RockIsl'd] Re: older newspapers (Plus ? museum) >Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:28:42 -0500 > >Linda and Jane, > > >Most of those little newspapers that were in business back then, have >long > >since folded up...I'll also make a few inquiries to see if anyone thought >to > >salvage these old newspaper files back then. > >1) You can try the RICHS...Rock Island Co Historical Society...for older >newspapers. They have alot on file for Rock Island, Moline, Milan area >newspapers that I've found from the 1850's forward. > >You can contact them online by visiting their website: > > http://www.richs.cc/ > > > > There's a new museum on the Moline Rock Island border that I haven't >gotten > >in to see yet. From what I've been told they've collected artifacts from >the > >surrounding communities to house them in one place. > >2) What new museum are you talking about on the border of Moline and Rock >Island? > >Barb Kelley > > > >==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== >~ SUBJECT LINES ~ >Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The >4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

From what I'm told they opened up a new site and moved a lot of area artifacts in to the same building, I got the address but haven't looked up a number for them yet. It's called the Moline Historical Center and it's located at 822- 11th Ave. Someone said it just opened up earlier this year. Not sure if this is the same one they were talking about that's supposed to be located over behind the Butterworth Center. I got this address from one of the librarians in RI. Below the hill RI ends at about 45th Street and Moline picks up, so this building is right over the RI line (8 blocks) but south of the river on 11th. (That's in case you're unfamiliar with the area and are trying to locate the building for yourself) The RI Library has all the newspapers put out by the Argus and until more recent years they just didn't devote a lot of space to area obits. They were few and far between for some of the years I've already gone through. Thanks for the link I'll be sure to check it out as well as get with the newpapers still in business to see if they know anything about these smaller papers. Linda >From: Barbara Kelley <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [RockIsl'd] Re: older newspapers (Plus ? museum) >Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:28:42 -0500 > >Linda and Jane, > > >Most of those little newspapers that were in business back then, have >long > >since folded up...I'll also make a few inquiries to see if anyone thought >to > >salvage these old newspaper files back then. > >1) You can try the RICHS...Rock Island Co Historical Society...for older >newspapers. They have alot on file for Rock Island, Moline, Milan area >newspapers that I've found from the 1850's forward. > >You can contact them online by visiting their website: > > http://www.richs.cc/ > > > > There's a new museum on the Moline Rock Island border that I haven't >gotten > >in to see yet. From what I've been told they've collected artifacts from >the > >surrounding communities to house them in one place. > >2) What new museum are you talking about on the border of Moline and Rock >Island? > >Barb Kelley > > > >==== ILROCKIS Mailing List ==== >~ SUBJECT LINES ~ >Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The >4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es