In an effort to identify C. SMOCK of USC 1810 IL Terr Randolph Co. I have found the following SMOCK descendants with first names beginning with the letter C. Calvin, son of Barney, son of C. SMOCK Casper, unk (possible son of C. SMOCK) Charles, Son of Thomas, possible grandson of C. SMOCK Cornelius, son of Alfred, son of C. SMOCK The name, Cornelius, is found in earlier SMOCK families in KY, PA and NJ. C. SMOCK and wife, Sarah, had a son, Hiram, b. 1800 in KY (calculated from USC 1850 Hardin Co., IL). Hiram had no known children with a name beginning with the letter C. In USC 1800 KY there was a Cornelius SMOCK with a family in Bullitt Co. He is believed to be the son of Barney/Barent and Ann/Antje (Cozine/Cosyn) SMOCK of Mercer Co., KY. This Cornelius was christened in Conewago, PA in 1772, came to KY about 1784 with his parents who settled in Mercer Co., KY. This Cornelius SMOCK is carried in several public records as an adult in Mercer Co., KY. His marriage record has not been found. He is not found in KY in USC 1810 or thereafter. It appears that Cornelius left KY between 1800 and 1810. There is no SMOCK listed in Randolph Co. in 1807 (then a Co. of IN Terr), so the window fo C. SMOCK's arrival in Randolph Co. is between 1807 and 1810. It has been suggested that C. SMOCK of IL Terr (1810) = Cornelius SMOCK of KY (1800). Need some evidence of C. SMOCK's identity. Best regards, Hugh

I have been overwhelmed with stories about finding brick wall people just since I sent this link. You are all quite welcome. I just wish that all states and countries would follow the State of Illinois. Three cheers are in order for Secretary of State, Jesse White, for this project! I know of only one other site that is this comprehensive. That is the Cheshire, England Family History site. I would think that processing orders would be at lightning speed for Illinois' employees because of this indexing. I had myself had many instances where I was able to piece my lines together not because of their birth and marriage information, but because of the death information! Hopefully, they will get the death database done for earlier years soon. Have a good day! Lynn Clarke-Dallas, TX US email: [email protected] My genealogy website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clarke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Clarke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:13 PM Subject: Fw: [ILPIKE] Illinois Death Index - Searchable Online! > Forwarded for those who have connections in Illinos. > > Have a good day! > Lynn Clarke-Dallas, TX US > email: [email protected] > My genealogy website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clarke > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:10 PM > Subject: [ILPIKE] Illinois Death Index - Searchable Online! > > > > Illinois State Archives Databases - Death index for 1916 - 1951 > > > > > > http://www2.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/databases.html > > > > > > Good luck in your search! > > > > Barbara (Saxbury) Freeman > > > > http://www.PikeCoILGenWeb.org Pike Co ILGenWeb > > http://Saxbury.net Saxbury Family > History > > http://NewspaperAbstracts.com Finding our ancestors in the > news! > > http://members.aol.com/saxbury AOL Members Genealogy Web > Sites > > http://AutumnWindz.com Autumn Windz Soaps & > Supplies > > > > > > ==== ILPIKE Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Pike Co ILGenWeb site > > http://www.PikeCoILGenWeb.org > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/02 >

Forwarded for those who have connections in Illinos. Have a good day! Lynn Clarke-Dallas, TX US email: [email protected] My genealogy website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clarke ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:10 PM Subject: [ILPIKE] Illinois Death Index - Searchable Online! > Illinois State Archives Databases - Death index for 1916 - 1951 > > > http://www2.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/databases.html > > > Good luck in your search! > > Barbara (Saxbury) Freeman > > http://www.PikeCoILGenWeb.org Pike Co ILGenWeb > http://Saxbury.net Saxbury Family History > http://NewspaperAbstracts.com Finding our ancestors in the news! > http://members.aol.com/saxbury AOL Members Genealogy Web Sites > http://AutumnWindz.com Autumn Windz Soaps & Supplies > > > ==== ILPIKE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Pike Co ILGenWeb site > http://www.PikeCoILGenWeb.org > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/02

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/og.2ADI/49.55 Message Board Post: I can be reached at by email at [email protected] as of May 15, 2002. Teresa Dix

hi, At one time it was common practice to have several towns of the same name in the state, and many towns and cities had former names with a few having had several, so if you have used a current map to find an old town name you may have created your very own brick walls or even worse you have connected with the wrong lines. "Bloomfield" is an excellent example of this common practice, just look at any current map and find it now in Johnson County close to Vienna, in 1958 it had a population of 80. Did you know there was another Bloomfield in Adams County? Close to Quincy, in 1958 it had a population of 25. There were others in Edgar, Fulton, Greene, Johnson and Scott Counties and all were spelled "Bloomfield." Plus precincts in Johnson and Scott Counties by the same name of "Bloomfield." Nine localities, all named "Bloomfield." Do you need more examples, maybe hundreds of examples? Sure hope you can easily see the point i am trying to make... many genealogies are out there now with improper connections because an inexperienced genealogist has picked the wrong county and matched up the wrong "SMITH" or "JONES" or "WHOEVER" because they thought they had the right county to chose from. Wrong connections are now made as the names that were available in that county were close so they figured a few misspellings or similar names would suffice. Or the town was the correct town but the county changed several times? Some still can't make the connection and are experienced enough to know that close doesn't always count, so they know they have hit a brickwall. My suggestion is that you jot down the towns your ancestors are known to have lived in and look them up on the statewide list of over 16,000 place names using your Ctrl/f keys to do the search. Copy down each county that each town appears in after the town name and you'll probably be amazed to find that instead of them moving all around the state they lived in a few neighboring counties. For details of when the town was active you could consult the web pages listed below for the 25 Northeast Counties as those are now online, the 44 South Counties will all details online by the end of this month, and the last 33 West Counties should have details online beginning this summer. When those new pages are up and running i'll send out an updated e-mail here and i'll post it on each Rootsweb county list as each county becomes available for research. BTW every fact is documented on every page. The following web pages are enormous and each will take over four minutes to download if your connection is a dial up modem and AOL is NOT busy and your computer is PROPERLY tuned. If you get a message that AOL is busy just rapidly tap on your reload button a few times and AOL wakes up and lets you in. It works for me as i use the IE browser instead of the AOL browser... here are the url's: <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/illinoygenealogy/myhomepage/writing.html"> Illinois Family History Research: Place Names of Each Illinois County</A> is a statewide list of over 16,000 towns, cities and townships known to have ever existed, grouped by county, covers all 102 counties. Each county now has "last updated date: brief description of the last update" at the beginning of each county listing. Each county has it's own listing of US Post Offices of 1859/60. For the 25 Northeast Counties and most of the 44 Southeast Counties, if a dash (-) after the name that indicates it is either obsolete or you won't find it on most current maps but it may appear on an older more detailed map, and as other counties are completed this will show on them as well. If i determined a listing was made either in error or it conflicts with other more reliable sources i've listed the source of information. This is the most complete list of its kind to be found anywhere. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/illinoygenealogy/myhomepage/tv.html"> Illinois Family History Research: Place Names of the Northeast 25 Counties</A> is a detailed list of everything known about each town, city and township, with over 5567 listings. Each county now has "last updated date: brief description of the last update" at the beginning of each county listing. Each county has it's own listing of US Post Offices of 1859/60 as well as a listing of the 1876 RR's and the towns the RR ran through. When the list is complete, as the first 17 of the 25 counties are, the following will be listed on each town or city, if known, in this order: how it got it's name; former name; alias name; later name; present name; a dash (-) after the name indicates it is either obsolete or you won't find it on most current maps; the township the town or city is in; another county the town may overlap into; date of incorporation; elevation; railroad name of old and new; (Post Office history of: former name; when established and in which county; when discontinued; new name if changed; if active and the current zip); RFD in 1960 or 1990 mail to town; and 1990 population. For each township, if known: how it got its name; former name; later name; every town that has ever been in that particular township; currently the town that accepts mail for this township; and 1990 population. The following 17 counties are completely done: Boone, Champaign, De Kalb, De Witt, Ford, Grundy, Iroquois, Kankakee, LaSalle, Livingston, Logan, Marshall, McLean, Putnam, Tazewell, Vermilion, and Woodford. The following eight counties are not yet completely done, each has all towns and townships known to be in existence from before 1818 up to 1990, but lacks the inclusion of the 1876 atlas: Cook, DuPage, Kane, Kendall, Lake, McHenry, Will, and Winnebago and should be complete by the end of this month. (BTW Cook Co is complete only as far as A-P but should be complete by the end of this month) <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/dennisvcarter1/myhomepage/heritage.html"> Illinois Family History Research: Place Names of the Southeast 44 Counties</A> has just begun with the following recent county additions (# of place names): Alexander (119), Bond (115), Christian (112), Clay (71), Clinton (103), Coles (136), Crawford (82), Cumberland (77), Dane (0), Douglas (63), Edgar (136), Edwards (45), Effingham (96), Fayette (120) , Franklin (137), Gallatin (85), Hamilton (103), Hardin (53), Jackson (169), Jasper (79), Jefferson (122), Johnson (84), Lawrence (86), Macon (178), Macoupin (202), Marion (120), Massac (83), Menard (81), Monroe (125), Montgomery (157), Moultrie (65), Perry (100), Pope (134), Pulaski (78), and Randolph (178), each starting off with all towns, cities and townships known to have been in existence from before 1818 up to 1960. Later... current information, up to 1990, will follow in the summer or fall with over 5261 listings in total. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/dcarter956/myhomepage/heritage.html"> Illinois Family History Research: Place Names of the 33 Western Counties</A> is in development and will begin early this summer, with over 5209 listings. Will start off with all towns, cities and townships known to be in existence from before 1818 up to 1960 and current information, up to 1990, will follow in the fall or winter. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/livingstoncounty/myhomepage/tv.html"> Illinois Family History Research: Timeline for Genealogy</A> is from the year 1400 to present, a chronological history of Illinois, United States, Germanic, British, France, and other European countries, each of these events have a bearing on family history. This list has been designed to help you also study your other lines that lived outside Illinois and each of the several thousand entries has been cited with its own source, over two dozen sources cited, and links to "the rest of the story" in many cases. This is the most complete list of its kind to be found anywhere. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/livingstoncounty/myhomepage/business.html"> Livingston County, Illinois, Family History Research: Genealogy</A> is a master index of every family known to have lived in this county from 1831-1985. Several thousand surnames are listed alphabetically and each surname has each source cited, several hundred surnames have multiple sources cited, and 30 sources have so far been used. Many of these sources are online so you can easily confirm your suspicions of connections within a few minutes. Sources include records from biographies, cemetery, census, church, death, land and deed, marriages, military, etc., and a system is used so that by looking at the code following a surname you'll know the decade the record came from as well as the type of record and actual source. Many researchers from other states have found quickly found their missing connections from this index and i challenge other researchers to do this with a county of their choosing so others may quickly confirm their connections and be encouraged to research their roots. happy hunting dennis

Thanks to all who have tried to help me find Gravel HIll Church. If and when I do locate it I will let you know. Thanks again, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: [ILRANDOL] Gravel Hill Church/ Cem > In a message dated 5/12/2002 5:01:26 PM Central Daylight Time, "Connie" < > [email protected]> writes: > > > > Can anyone please tell me where the Gravel Hill Church was located in > > Randolph Co > > Dear Connie, > > I found this message online re: Gravel Hill SCHOOL. Perhaps Tom could help > you with info about a church or cemetery. > > <A HREF="http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SOIL/2000-04/0957106539">http://a rchiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SOIL/2000-04/0957106539</A> > > Also, my MIL says the school is located on Rt. 153 about a mile and a half > north of the 153 / 13 junction (Coulterville, IL). The school is renovated > as a home. I don't know who lives there. > > I hope this helps. ~~Rhonda Ashby Coulter >

I found the name Richard Robinson Sr. on ancestry.com for an 1825 state census. Does anyone know if this census is available on microfilm that can be ordered? Also, do state censuses have more information than federal census files in general?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Walster Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/og.2ADI/106 Message Board Post: Looking for parents of Elizabeth Walster. Elizabeth was born Sept. 1, 1852 in Millstadt, St. Clair Co., IL. The family later moved to Randoph Co. where she married John M. Layne. I found a Nicholas Walster on the 1860 census of Randolph Co. IL with an Elizabeth born in 1852 and several brothers and sisters. I'm not sure if this is the Elizabeth I am looking for because the funeral home records list her father as Martin Walster and also having only one brother whose name wasn't on the census. Could Martin have been a middle name or a nickname? If anyone knows anything about this family, please contact me. Thank you. Candy

At 01:34 PM 5/12/2002, you wrote: >Hello, > >Can anyone please tell me where the Gravel Hill Church was located in >Randolph Co? Did this church also have a cemetery? Has it been >transcribed, if there is one? > >Thanks, >Connie Hi, My Dad attended the Gravel Hill School and this is what he knows about the building. He believes it was the church at one time too. He doesn't remember a cemetery, but the building had been moved. Hope this gives someone some help. There is no Community by the name of Gravel Hill that I ever heard of, But I think I can explain about the Church. You see when I went to gravel Hill School , It set back on the other side of the woods by about 1/2 Mile, It then set in Washington Co. they moved the School house Over on Highway 153 going north out of Coulterville. They only moved it about 3/4 of a mile from it's Old Location this put it in Randolph Co. It sets Close to three county lines Perry, Washington and Randolph. and I think it was a church when they first moved it over there and maybe still is But I do believe this is the building they are talking about. Now this is my own version and it could be 100 % wrong, But it is the only Gravel Hill Building that I ever heard of. This Building would set on the West side of Highway 153 about 5 mile north of Coulterville. Hope this Helps . Love Dad Carol Lafferty Durfee Surnames: Lafferty, Robinson, Bennett, Meltabarger, Jordan, Atchison

Hello and I am seeking information or family of the Lawless/Lollis family in the area. I have been told there were some in the county and was trying to find anyone that might be related to them. I believe it was in the 1800's but anything on this family is most welcome. Thank you Robin Holt

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/og.2ADI/105.1 Message Board Post: I am currectly doing research on my great grandparents Charles & Delia (Britt) Burbes. Charles lived in Highland Falls, NY for most of his life (he joined the army and for many years was stationed at West Point); however, I was able to find information that he in fact served in the Civil War. He enlisted in Illinois and listed his place of residence as Randolph County. His place of birth was Prussia. This is the only early information that I have been able to ascertain. However, while I was doing research on civil war veterans, I came across the name Christian Burbes. He enlisted in the army the same date as my great grandfather in December, 1863. I originally thought that they might be related but I was not able to verify this. I hope this is of help. If you come across anything on a Charles Burbes, I would be happy to hear from you. Best of Luck in your research. Marilyn Nazareth

In a message dated 5/12/2002 5:01:26 PM Central Daylight Time, "Connie" < [email protected]> writes: > Can anyone please tell me where the Gravel Hill Church was located in > Randolph Co? Did this church also have a cemetery? Has it been > transcribed, if there is one? > Dear Connie, I found this message online re: Gravel Hill SCHOOL. Perhaps Tom could help you with info about a church or cemetery. <A HREF="http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SOIL/2000-04/0957106539">http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SOIL/2000-04/0957106539</A> Also, my MIL says the school is located on Rt. 153 about a mile and a half north of the 153 / 13 junction (Coulterville, IL). The school is renovated as a home. I don't know who lives there. I hope this helps. ~~Rhonda Ashby Coulter

Hello, Can anyone please tell me where the Gravel Hill Church was located in Randolph Co? Did this church also have a cemetery? Has it been transcribed, if there is one? Thanks, Connie

In a paper entitled TAKEN FROM THE SPARTA NEWS-PLAINDEALER DATED FRIDAY, AUGUST 27, 1937 by J. B. Dodge: ELLIS GROVE PRECINCT (continued from last week) Is all about the Bilderback family. Recently someone asked where the Bilderback Cemetery was located. He thought it was on the Palestine Road. I thought it was probably in the Rockwood area, but I am wrong. In this article it is stated: "They were buried on their farm in the Bilderback Cemetery SOUTHWEST of Ellisgrove." They were speaking of Ephram & Jane Bilderback. They were the parents of William, Stuart, James, Charles, Friend, Henry, Ephram, Thomas, John, Lydia, Gettie or Geaty & Susan. Ephram died in 1820 & his wife in 1838. Velda

Does anyone have a class picture OR a yearbook from Percy Grade School , from 1960 to 1967?? This school was in Percy Illinois . It had been torn down sometime after 1968, and Only the Gym is there now. I attended this school and would really like to get some pictures of my old class mates, and myself . As I have None to show my 11 grandchildren.. I can't even remember if they had yearbooks , But , I know they did take class pictures.. Thank You Carol

Sue, Although I am in the Cannady/Kenady family from Gallatin County, IL, I am replying due to your mention of surname "Rogers." A fairly large group of my Maxwell relatives moved from Bedford County, TN to the tri-county area of Randolph-Washington-Perry Counties, IL somewhere in the 1830's. James Rogers (the brother of my g-g grandfather, Daniel Rogers) came with the family and was married to Margaret Maxwell. I have a list of their children and a few later descendents. If you think there could be any connection with your Rogers and mine I would be happy to explore this with you further. Linda Rogers Grinnell > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 06:39:18 -0700 > From: jnsford <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILRANDOL] RE: Whatever happened to: > > Hello Listmembers > I need assistance please...... > > Does anyone know whatever happened to the > sons of Emanuel Canaday? > > Edward Canaday born 1822 > Harrison Canaday born 1824 > Irene Canaday born 1826 married James Steele > Mary Canaday born 1830 married Jacob Rogers > George Washignton Canaday born 1831 > > Emanuel remarried in 1835 to Mary Ann Mc Laughlin > and they had children: > John Weeks Canaday > Thomas Benton Canaday > *James Wilson Canaday > Nancy A Canaday > William Canaday > Erza ( Pike) Canaday > Ira Canaday > Robert H Canaday > Jacob Gossett Canaday > > Will appreciate any assistance you can share... > or provide....... > > other names of interest: > Harris, Creath,Rogers,McLaughlin, Broughton,Stroud > Culley, Steele > > Thank you > Sue > > ______________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com

Found the 1807 Census, but did not find a SMOCK listed. So apparently my SMOCK was missed or he wasn't there until after the census was taken. The latter seem most likely. Now I know that C. SMOCK came to Randolph Co., IN Terr. between 1807 and 1808. Now looking into property records. Still need C. SMOCK's first name. Best regards, Hugh

In a message dated 5/7/02 3:09:50 PM, [email protected] writes: << I wouldn't rule out the spelling "SMICK" or "SMACK" Seems like I've corresponded with someone on the SMOCK / SMICK family. I'm "cc'ing" this to Richard Swank who has a Godhard SMICK....pretty close to the "Gorhail" listed above if someone couldn't read the writing. >> _____________ Jan, Good to hear from you. One of the early spellings of SMOCK was SMAK. I have also seen SMOKE. Its all in the hearing of the clerk doing the writing. Several of the marriages you listed are mine and I suspect that there are more, but I can't make the connection yet. I'm focusing on SMOCKs of Southern IL (Randolph, Gallatin, Pope, and Hardin Cos of time period 1800 to 1850. Community is Cave in Rock which over time was in each county listed. I have two major hurdles- 1) Identity of C. SMOCK, USC 1810 Randolph Co., IL Terr 2) Parents of Thomas SMOCK, b. 1821 Cave in Rock, Pope Co., IL There is something of a mystery about the SMOCK family of early Southern IL. The widow of C. SMOCK is identified in 1816 as Sallie SMOCK, but no evidence of his death has been revealed. Sallie/Sarah made application for probate in Gallatin Co., IL Terr but no probate record has been found. In 1816 Pope Co., was created from Gallatin Co., so it is possible that the probate was transferred to Pope Co. At this time I have not uncovered a SMOCK probate record in Pope Co. I could use some help here. The parents of Thomas SMOCK have not been revealed. Thomas, b. 1821, was not the child of Sarah SMOCK who headed the only SMOCK family in the area in 1818 to 1830, further she was reported as a widow from 1816 to 1830 and died a widow in 1850. She is not accounted for by name in 1840, but an elderly female is in the household of Hiram SMOCK in 1840. This is, surely, Sarah SMOCK, widow. Thomas, age 9 in 1830 may be listed as 1 male (10-15) in Sarah SMOCK's household where Hiram SMOCK, 30, is probably the other male (20-30). It is possible that Hiram was Thomas' father, but no marriage or wife has been identified until Hiram married in 1837 to Lydia HUGHES. I need to determine if Hiram was married before 1837. Help here would also be appreciated. Best regards, Hugh

Hello Listmembers I need assistance please...... Does anyone know whatever happened to the sons of Emanuel Canaday? Edward Canaday born 1822 Harrison Canaday born 1824 Irene Canaday born 1826 married James Steele Mary Canaday born 1830 married Jacob Rogers George Washignton Canaday born 1831 Emanuel remarried in 1835 to Mary Ann Mc Laughlin and they had children: John Weeks Canaday Thomas Benton Canaday *James Wilson Canaday Nancy A Canaday William Canaday Erza ( Pike) Canaday Ira Canaday Robert H Canaday Jacob Gossett Canaday Will appreciate any assistance you can share... or provide....... other names of interest: Harris, Creath,Rogers,McLaughlin, Broughton,Stroud Culley, Steele Thank you Sue

Miss Desiree, Thank you for replying. Could you please send me the names of the Reno's you mentioned, that is if there are just a handful. If not, I will try to get them some other way. Do you happen to know if there is a web page that may have the cemetery transcription? By the way, I am also looking for George, Elizabeth and Major Mason. Would they happen to be there also. They owned property nearby. Thank you, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [ILRANDOL] Reno Cemetery/Camptown > I could find no "Reno Cemetery, " per se, but the only recorded RENO graves > are in the Evergreen Cemetery on Illinois Highway 3 in Chester, the Kelly > Cemetery east of Evansville (on Illinois Highway 4, I think), and Old Saint > Boniface Cemetery in Evansville. > > Miss Désirée de Nantes > <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >