In tracing my SMOCKs back from IL to KY the linkage is in the USC 1850 Hardin Co., IL in which Hiram, b. 1800, son of C. and Sarah SMOCK, shows his place of birth as KY, his younger brothers, Barney (1808) and Alfred (1810), show as IL. This strongly suggests that the family moved from KY to IL some time after 1800 and before 1808. A search was made for C. SMOCK in the USC 1800 KY. There were no C. SMOCKs but there was a Cornelius SMOCK in Bullitt Co., KY with family. This Cornelius (b. 1772 PA) was the son of Barney (Barent) and Antje (Cozine) SMOCK of Mercer Co., KY. Several Mercer Co., KY records cite Cornelius as an adult before 1800. A check was made of the USC 1810 KY for Cornelius and he was not found. It was found that a number of Cornelius' siblings went north to IN. While there were Cornelius SMOCKs in IN, none was old enough to be Cornelius, b. 1772. As it currently stands, the evidence seems to support C. SMOCK of IL = Cornelius SMOCK of KY. If so, this line can be traced to the SMOCKs of NJ and the progenitor, Hendrick Matthyse SMOCK. Looking for more data on Cornelius SMOCK in either KY or IL. Best regards, Hugh

(Marriage Records: POPE COUNTY, IL) 1813-1877 Book A, pg 7 & 10 Calvin Palmer to Nelly SMOCK by Philo Averile, J.P. - 24 Aug 1823 (Lic 15) Book A, pg 113 & 224 Levi Fairchild to Miss Matilda SMOCK , by John Given, - 14 Feb 1830 Book A, pg 265 Hiram SMOCK to Miss Lydia Hughs, by Peter Holland, J.P. - 21 Sep 1837 __________________ Need follow up on these SMOCK marriages. Where were the PALMERs in USC 1850? Where were the FAIRCHILDs in USC 1850? Was Lydia HUGHS (b. 1804) a widow before she married Hiram SMOCK (b. 1800)? There is a Lydia WILKINSON who married a George HUGHES in 1824 and there were children in the Hiram/Lydia SMOCK family in USC 1840 older than their marriage. Does anyone have a WILKINSON family in Pope Co., IL in 1824, 1820? Best regards, Hugh (Marriage Records: POPE COUNTY, IL) 1813-1877 Book A, pg 7 & 10 Calvin Palmer to Nelly SMOCK by Philo Averile, J.P. - 24 Aug 1823 (Lic 15) Book A, pg 113 & 224 Levi Fairchild to Miss Matilda SMOCK , by John Given, - 14 Feb 1830 Book A, pg 265 Hiram SMOCK to Miss Lydia Hughs, by Peter Holland, J.P. - 21 Sep 1837 __________________ Need follow up on these marriages. Where were the PALMERs in USC 1850? Where were the FAIRCHILDs in USC 1850? Was Lydia HUGHS (b. 1804) a widow before she married Hiram SMOCK (b. 1800)? There is a Lydia WILKINSON who married a George HUGHES in 1824 and there were children in the Hiram/Lydia SMOCK family in USC 1840 older than their marriage. Does anyone have a WILKINSON family in Pope Co., IL in 1824? Best regards, Hugh ? ?

Madison's full name was Martin Madison SMOCK. Though born in 1836 AR he lived his adult life in IL (mostly Hardin Co., IL). Madison doesn't seem to have any parents. I have found three SMOCK entries in the USC 1830 AR, but none in USC 1840. The three SMOCKs were Barnet, Alfred, and Casper. Barnet is Barney SMOCK who returned to Hardin Co., IL by USC 1840 as did Alfred SMOCK. Casper is unaccounted for in or after 1840. Madison would be age 4 in 1840 and is not accounted for in Barney's or Alfred's families in USC 1840. Barney and Alfred had an older brother, Hiram (b. 1800), who remained in IL with their widowed mother, Sarah SMOCK. He is listed in her household in 1830 and she in his household in 1840. It is believed that it was the same location/house in Cave in Rock, IL. In USC 1840 Hardin Co., IL Hiram's household included Lydia 26, his wife; Sarah 68, his mother; a female 10-15, probably Matilda; 2 males <5 and 2 males 5-10. Madison, then 4, could be one of these males since only one, John 2, is subsequently (USC 1850) identified. Since Hiram married Lydia Hughs in 1737 and in 1840 they had 2 males 5-10 and 2 males <5, either Hiram or Lydia brought children into the marriage or some of these could be orphan children of other families which were housed by Hiram's family. If one of the males is Madison SMOCK 4, then he does not show as a male 14 in 1850 in Hiram's household or else where to my knowledge. Madison SMOCK m. 4 Aug 1856 Vina/Lavina HOLLOMAN in IL Madison served in CW with Co. C, 48th IL Infantry (1861-1865) Madison survived the death (1898) of Vina, his wife, and died in 1925 in IL The questions are: 1) the parentage of Madison SMOCK. Who were they? 2) where was he born? in AR?, in IL? 3) where was he in 1850 at age 14? Best regards, Hugh

Green Arnold married Mary Gibbs 23 Oct 1842 Perry Co., IL; Mrs Mary ARNOLD married Alexander STEWART 20 Jan 1857 Perry Co., IL; Is Mary Gibbs the same as Mrs Mary Stewart? Did Green and Mary have any children?

Commencement Program Coulterville High School Coulterville, Randolph, Illinois Friday May 29, 1931 Program Class march Virginia Knecht Invocation Rev. Duncan Class Poem Mary Darrough Solo Malone Cox Class History Marvin Vuichard Cornet Solo Keith Mc Kelvey Class Address James Birchler Class Song Class of 1931 Address Rev. McLean Presentation Of Diplomas Mr. Carlton Benediction Rev. Phillips Class of 1931 James Birchler Malone Cox Kenneth Hippard* my dad Lois Copeland Mary Darrough Elizabeth O' Neil Ward Meyer Marie Synder Marvin Vuichard Class Motto: Build for Character, Not for Fame Class Colors: Orange and Maroon Class Flower: American Beauty Rose. Thought maybe some one might have a link to this class. Marcia Hippard Larson [email protected]

I found a death record for Larry Parkhill, but do not have his email address. PARKHILL, LETTIA, 77 yr 8 mo 7 da; died 27 Mar 1894; widow; housewife; born in Ireland; Resident 51 years in Bradley Twp.; Absess of Liver; Zion District; Shiloh Hill, IL Parkhill, Odes, book 1, page 38 Velda Moore Put your SURNAMEs that you are researching on the http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ by emailing me at [email protected]

I just received this and thought I'd pass it on.   The old genealogy scam is back. www.genseekers.com   Behind the password protection are links to the free   genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own.   In order to get the "5-day free trial" you have to   surrender a credit card or bank account number. You   have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess   what? The cancellation e-mail bounces. Does this   surprise you?   One person who recently fell for the come-on had   his/her account dinged not once, but twice.   It is time to remind folks on your state and county   mailing lists about these scoundrels. It has been a   couple of years since we have mentioned this.   Permission is granted to pass this on. ==== MCKELVY Mailing List ==== Remember to search other spellings when you run into a brick wall.  I have found my McKelvey also as McKelvy and McCelvy in the census. + MacHelby, McCelvay, McKelvie List manager for: [email protected] RootsWeb Mailing List Search: ILRANDOL [email protected] RootsWeb Mailing List Search: McKELVEY RootsWeb Message Boards [ McKelvie ] <A HREF="http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.mckelvie">http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.mckelvie</A> David McKELVEY [email protected]

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Perry & Randolph counties (Illinois) have been updated! Many thanks to Mike, Brian, Cheryl, Wilma, Stella and others for your contributions! CHECK IT OUT! www.perrycountyillinois.net 1914 phone book listings..........NEW! (these names will NOT show up in the search engine!) 1894 Cutler School w/ names....NEW!!! Mystery Photos............................NEW!!! "Nine Mile" Letter........................NEW!!! Messages, Queries, Links, & photo album....UPDATED! LOTS of pics this time! www.randolphcountyillinois.net Messages & Surnames .....UPDATED! Please let me know if there are any broken links... Jean [email protected] Webmaster for Illinois Perry and Randolph Counties www.perrycountyillinois.net www.randolphcountyillinois.net [email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 2/18/03

The address of Randolph County Genealogical Society Webpage is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ Please don't forget the tilde in the address right before ilrcgs. It is necessary to get to the page. Look at everyone's Surnames to see if they have one of yours under their name. Take a good look at everything on the page and if you have any problems, let me know! Velda Wittenbrink Moore Website Administrator

I'm looking for anyone out there who may have a rocking chair made by Silas Tuthill (or his sons) of Rockwood in Randolph Co. I have inherited a platform rocking chair from my Jackson Co. ancestors & I think it may be a Tuthill. If anyone has one of these chairs or a picture of one, please contact me privately so we can compare info. Thank you. Carol

Researchers, would you please send me your list of SURNAMES you are researching so that I can have them put on the RANDOLPH COUNTY GENEALOGICAL webpage so that others who visit our website can see that you are researching the same surname and perhaps contact you. Send the surname list, your name and address, email address, or any way that you can be contacted. Send an email to VELDA MOORE, [email protected] and I will forward them to Larry, who designed and maintains our website. Velda Wittenbrink Moore RCGS website administrator [email protected]

Alexander Stewart born about 1811 Ireland, died after 1870 census Randolph Co., IL, wife: Mary N. born about 1822 Illinois, died after 1880 census. Children: 1. Jennie or Victoria Jane or Jane V. Stewart born about 1857 Illinois (Jennie's three marriages WILKINSON or WILKERSON, TAYLOR, and GREENWELL); 2. Sarah A. Stewart born about 1859 IL last found in 1870 census ; 3. Isaac N. Stewart born about 1863 Illinois may have been married to Anna N. HUSKEY 24 Feb 1886; may be the same one who died 9 Jan1930 Madison Co., IL at Wood River. Who is researching thiis STEWART family? Thank you, Jeannet

In a message dated 2/16/03 12:54:58 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > One of our volunteers drives from Ava, IL and one drives from Rockwood, IL > to work every Monday &Tuesday. Their years combined in this work is more > than forty. Two of the volunteers are from Chester. This is real > dedication especially when the volunteers receive no pay, no gas money, > often no thanks, and must use their own money for supplies. They work in > the research room when it is hot summertime and when it is so cold, they > can > see their breath. > I would just like to say a big THANK YOU for the volunteers. They are appreciated, especially by those who live in other states. Again, THANK YOU. Pam (Boos, Schmidt, Guthmann, Spilbeler, Burbes, Smith, Uebel)

Velda, I don't see anything wrong with the note, but maybe we should add that they need to get their Vet. info. in as so as possible. I don't think anything you said should hurt any ones feelings. See you soon. Oh I just have 131 messages.so you know is going to happen to a lot of them. Love, Midge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Velda Moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 7:39 AM Subject: Randolph County Genealogical Society office Dear Researchers: RCGS will reopen on Feb. 18, 2003. There is no heat in our research room, therefore we must close for a portion of the year, but we come back renewed in our committment to helping you find your loved ones. The office is open from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. each MONDAY & TUESDAY. Our library has grown considerably. You will be surprised if you have not been there in a while. Please come take a look! PLEASE GET YOUR VETERAN INFORMATION IN FOR THE NEW VETERANS BOOK. Don't leave your relative out! This is Veterans from Randolph County including ALL WARS. The form to fill out is on our website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/. Download it and just fill in the blanks. If you have a picture of the Veteran, it will be included. The deadline is near! One of our volunteers drives from Ava, IL and one drives from Rockwood, IL to work every Monday & Tuesday. Their years combined in this work is more than forty. Two of the volunteers are from Chester. This is real dedication especially when the volunteers receive no pay, no gas money, often no thanks, and must use their own money for supplies. They work in the research room when it is hot summertime and when it is so cold, they can see their breath. Much of the work they do is done at home. How did you think all those books got typed? How did all the research get done? The mail must be answered, the bookkeeping done, and the library must be kept in order so that you, our members, can find what you need. One volunteer drives from Perryville, MO to help get the quarterly done. One volunteer works at home in the Walsh area doing scrapbooks for our library. And thanks to the people who pay their $20.00 membership fee, we don't go in the hole! We do have to curtail copying part of the time so that our bill is not too high. There are other volunteers who work at home, too. Their efforts are duly noted, but I was only considering the OFFICE work. PHONE 618-826-3807 Velda Wittenbrink Moore RCGS Website Administrator [email protected]

Who has knowledge of Alexander Stewart who married Mrs Mary ARNOLD in Perry Co., IL 20 Jan 1857 Vol 3 page 37? Who is researching this family? Thank you, Jeannet

My ggg grandfather Dr. Robert Eveleigh Taylor arrived in the US from Lancashire, England in October, 1819. He settled in Poughkeepsie, Dutchess Co., NY. His obituary was carried in the Poughkeepsie Republican Telegraph and Observer newspaper on 24 October 1827. It stated that his death occurred at Pym's Farm, Kaskaskia, Randolph Co., Ill. I have been unable to determine why he would have been in Illinois or what was the nature of Pym's Farm. If anyone can help me to understand anything about Pym's Farm, or if you have any information about Dr. Taylor I would be very appreciative. Since Robert Taylor was a physician, I have speculated that Pym's Farm might have been a treatment center for medical patients, but I do not know how to determine if this was true. Any help would be appreciated. Jesse Wallace Rochester, MN

This was on one of my other lists and thought it should be presented here. Hi folks, Rootsweb is quite adamant that it does not want its bandwidth used to post virus email messages. It set up a list just for people who want to talk about them: Virus-l. Folks wanting to talk about it MUST USE THAT LIST. It's against rootsweb's rules to post to any other list without the permission of the list admin. Anyone thinking they have an important message to convey on the topic MUST CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN. I hope this is clear!  Anyone wishing to complain about the rule can do so at the help desk at www.rootsweb.com . Anyone posting on this topic to the list will be given ONE WARNING, List manager for: [email protected] <A HREF="http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl">RootsWeb Mailing List Search: ILRANDOL</A> [email protected] <A HREF="http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl">RootsWeb Mailing List Search: McKELVEY</A> <A HREF="http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/admin.brd/rw/TQ0.2ACIB">RootsWeb Message Boards [ McKelvie ]</A> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.mckelvie David McKELVEY [email protected] Note: Unless told otherwise, sharing information with me is okay to share with others. Let's keep Genealogy FREE.

--part1_b4.18332f3f.2b7ab944_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_b4.18332f3f.2b7ab944_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-xl01.mx.aol.com (rly-xl01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.70]) by air-xl03.mail.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id MAILINXL33-0211125719; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:57:19 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.41]) by rly-xl01.mx.aol.com (v90_r2.6) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXL15-0211125650; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:56:50 -0500 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id h1BHuS0J016474; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:56:28 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:56:28 -0700 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Tue Feb 11 10:56:28 2003 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:54:33 -0600 From: Gloria Frazier <[email protected]> X-Sender: [email protected] (Unverified) Old-To: [email protected] Message-id: <[email protected]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [ILGEN-L] HB 498 - SOS charging research fees Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/4143 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] I am passing this on from Carolynn Bettis <[email protected]> Please pass onto your Illinois county maillists and genealogy and historical society members (Illinois). gf ---------------- Rep Gary Hannig has filed the following bill. The Secretary of State's Legislative Liaision, David Jones, is aware of the bill, but they were not involved in its creation. The bill will probably be heard in committee on Feb. 20th. HB 498 Amends the Secretary of State Act . Provides that a fee of $7 per research request for copies of non-certified death certificates, civil war muster records and census records shall be paid to the Secretary of State and deposited into the Archives Research Fund. Amends the State Finance Act. Creates the Archives Research Fund and provides that monies deposited ito the fund may, subject to appropriation, be used by the Secretary of State for expenses of conducting archival research of Archive records. Effective July 1, 2003. Urge all in opposition to HB 498 to conctact Representative Gary Hannig by phone or mail at: 225 S. Macoupin St, Gillespie, IL 62033, Tel. # 217-839-2859 or 300 Capitol Bldg., Springfield, IL 62706, Tel. No. 217-782-8071 also contact: Senator Vince Demuzio, 140 Carlinville Plaza, Carlinville, IL 62626, Tel. No. 217-854-4441 Have not been able to acquire an email address for Rep. Hannig and Sen. Demuzio does not have one. Strongly urge all those in opposition to this HB 498 also contact their local Representative(s) and Senator(s) making their feelings known. Perhaps if this HB 498 moves thru the legislative system, we can form a group and personally appear and offer testimony in opposition. This bill can be tracked at the Illinois Legislative Reference Bureau's web site: www.legis.state.il.us ------------------ Gloria Frazier <[email protected]> Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm Maillist manager for FRAZIER-L and ILMADISO-L ==== ILGEN Mailing List ==== To contact the list Coordinator, Richard M. Howland. mailto:[email protected] --part1_b4.18332f3f.2b7ab944_boundary--

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Mrs. GNAEGY taken at the Thomas Smith Studio in Chester, Illinois. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1870's with Mrs. GNAEGY looking to be in her 60's at the time. Another photograph obtained from the same source includes the following surnames, OETTING and WILSON. The handwriting on the back of the two photographs may be the same, however, it is hard to tell if the notations were written by the same person or not. I'm hoping to locate someone from this family so that the photograph can be returned to their care. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley