OMG!!!!!!! <grin> I guess I am an oldtimer then, and I'm originally from Southern Illinois...... I just always thought that was a distinction between a dirt road and a paved road. I still use that term out here in Arizona Linda (I guess I'm now officially an old duffer) <grin> And I'm not upset in the least - just amused. I just celebrated my 63rd birthday! -----Original Message----- From: WXFORDS@aol.com [mailto:WXFORDS@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:05 PM To: ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] This oldtimer quest is a great one. Anyone who can go and talk... In a message dated 9/14/2005 10:15:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, Rmarkowi@aol.com writes: When electric came in and when roads were not paved. It is all fascinating and only the old timers who are from long time families in the area would be able to reflect these tidbits. If you ever hear the term "hard road" you can bet they are from Southern Illinois. When they started paving the roads people in the local area would call them the "hard road". Linda in TN