Carol, Just a quick note to let you know that I received your message. I am at work and doing this by memory. Elijah is Elijah T Williams s/o Francis Marion Williams and Mary Melissa Finney. Elijah and Rutha had several children only one of which I have been able to document lived to adulthood. This was Creddie Williams who married Carrie Anna Werner. They had 5 children Creddie Jr. who died as an infant and was buried at the German Cemetary (Waltersburg I think) Bertha Marie (my mother) Alice, Alfred Wayland and Raymond Lee. I am working on the parents of Francis Marion and it appears that they are James Williams of MO and Margaret Ann Slaughter. I believe this to be correct but am still documenting. I will try to get more to you this weekend from home. I would appreciate anything that you have on the Werners. Thanks for all of your help. Doug Barnes CarolSue Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: >Doug...please send me your info on WILLIAMS, Elijah and Rutha. >I need to compare notes, as there are 3 Elijah WILLIAMS in the >Pope County vicinity.  Also, I have MUCH info on Werner(s), >and would be happy to send you what I have...  Please contact >me off the list to make arrangements on getting it to you. >I show Carrie Anne as the daughter of Henry W. (Woerner) WERNER >and Veronika Ann (Gueple) GABLE.  She is one of 8 children, but >I have no birth date on her except after 1885. > >Looking forward to hearing from you, >Carol > > >Doug Barnes wrote: > >> Cousin Carol, Thanks for the information.  I descend from Carrie Anna Werner.  She married Creddie Williams son of Elijah Williams and Ruth (Rutha) S Barger.  I have not had much luck tracing back the Werners.  I would appreciate any information that you might have and I would share anything that I would have.  Again thanks for your help. >> >> CarolSue Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >Hello cousin Doug....Veronika (GOEPLE) GABLE was also my great-grandmother! >> >Her parents were: John (GABLE/GOEBEL/GOEPEL) GUEPLE and Catherine HEITRICH. >> >Veronika was b. July 1865 at Herda, SW Eisenach, Thuringia, Germany >> >-emigrated 1881 from Wurttemburg.  She married Henry W. (Woerner) WERNER >> >June 05, 1884, Pope Co, IL - Reg A-1, pg 78, #0220, by George Blatter, M.G. >> >at Andy GOEPEL residence. Witt: George Klink/ Anna Walter. They had >> >five children, and I descend from grandfather: Oscar C. WERNER. >> > >> >I do not find any Veronika/Veronica listed in the 1880 Pope Co, IL Census >> >with a surname beginning with "C", "G", or "K".  It is possible that she met >> >Mr. Werner in PA, where so many of the WERNER family member emigrated >> >to from the old country, before settling in Pope County, IL.  In the 1900 Pope >> >Co, IL Census, listed in Eddyville Prct, enumerated by A.B.King, hshold #62/64 >> >is C. (Conrad) GOEPEL, b. 10/1853, 46 years old, GERMANY, marr. 25 years and >> >Caroline, (7 children/ 5 living) b. 01/1851, 49 years old, GERMANY, marr. 25 years, with 5 children: >> >Fritz b. 03/1878, 22 years old GERMANY, and other children born in IL: Mollie 1883, >> >Andy 1885, Dora 1890, Uda 1893.  (I suspect that Veronika is a younger sister of >> >Conrad.)  Their year of immigration is the same (1881).  On the Census this GOEPEL >> >couple and oldest son are in the USA for 19 years.  Under the Naturalization column >> >was "Nat."....probably meaning "Naturalized". >> > >> >In the 1900 Pope Co, IL Census, listed for Golconda Prct, hshold #280/280 is >> >Henry WERNER b. 02/1860, 40 years old, PA, parents b. in GERMANY, marr. 16 >> >years, with wife: Veronica (7 children/4 living) b. 07/1865, 34 years old, GERMANY, >> >married 16 years, and 4 children: Mary A. 04/1885; Oscar 03/1892; William 01/1895; >> >Mabel 10/1889....all born in Illinois.  (Veronica's year of emigration is also 1881, >> >Years in the USA - 19...and no information given under Naturalization column. >> >Veronica Ann's father in law, was Edward WERNER, a Lutheran Minister. >> > >> >The following GABLE(s) are listed in the Family History book: >> >Carolyn Sue, Dorothy Louise, Esther, Eva (Harper), Lavern, Lillian B. (Terry), >> >Mary, Merle, Russell, Veronica, and Vernoica Ann.  Veronica and Veronica Ann >> >are the same person. >> > >> >Carol >> >NW California >> >----------- >> >Doug Barnes wrote: >> > >> >> Jan, >> >> Do you have a connection to Veronika Gable (Goepel).  She was my gr grandmother.  Thanks  for the help. >> >> ------------- >> >> "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >I'm looking for Naturalization or Citizenship of Conrad and Caroline Goepel Gable or son,Fritz who immigrated to PopeCo., Il. in 1881.  I don't know when or if they were naturalized. Can anyone tell me how to find out? >> >> > >> >> >Jan >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. 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