I descend from Leonard Buckner and Mary Diarman through their daughter, Martha who married Joseph Newton. I have a guardianship paper dated Feb. 7, 1838 Court of Prbate held at the Galconda courthouse in State of IL County of Pope It states that on that date that John Morse, Jr. husband of Nancy Buckner is requesting that Joseph Diarman release his control over her as her guardian. Joseph Diarman was appointed guardian of Cynthia, Nancy, Joseph D., Martha, Cassandra, David M., and Mary Buckner. In one part it lists these children as heirs of Samuel Buckner. In another paragraph of same it lists these children as heirs of Leonard Buckner. Was his name Samuel Leonard Buckner or Leonard Samuel Buckner?? Cynthia

HOPE THIS HELPS... Illinois Harpers-Query From: jim severson jungle@GoOutside.net <mailto:jungle@GoOutside.net> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 To: ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> (to: Jim Harper, March 4, 2005) A. Lincoln HARPER 1821-1887, marr. Eleanor Shufflebarger B. Lincoln "K."? HARPER, marr. (1) Mary Ann "Polly" TRIGG, (2) Nancy BOWMAN, Jul 13, 1874, (Bk D, Pg 17, #0623) Pope Co, IL -- 1. Dau: Mary E. HARPER b. 1856; marr. John ROSS Sept 1, 1878 Pope Co, IL - witness: J.Sbarger and M.R. Harper - *Mary's par: HARPER/TRIGG 2. Lincoln verifies residence/age of Matilda HARPER, to marr. Jacob BENARD / BIENARD - on Oct. 28, 1826 (license issued); May 8, 1827 Minister filed (BK A, Pg 36 & 90, #71) 3. Lincoln gave consent for dau. Laura E. HARPER (age 16) to marr: J. W. WALLACE (age 17) - on Aug 12, 1877 (Bk E, Pg 2, #069) C. James H. HARPER 1865-1903 (married to Mary E. OWENS?) - witness to marr of Franz ALEY & Annie H. WALTER, Dec 23, 1886 Pope Co, IL - marr. At residence of James Harper on May 21, 1876: Miss Martha A. HARPER (age 17) And Thomas W. JONES (age 21). -- 1880 Pope Co, IL Mortality Schedule (Census) James A. HARPER, age 38, married, b. about 1842-IL, d. April 1880. of Pneumonia Effa E. HARPER, age 1, b. IL, d. Nov 1880, Diptheria Arthur HARPER, age 5, b. IL, d. Feb 1880, Malaria Fever -- Civil War Volunteers, Aug 1862-1864 at Glendale, Pope Co, IL include from family HARPER: - James A.; William R.; John A.; and John. cswr@earthlink.net <mailto:cswr@earthlink.net> ............................................... jim severson wrote: >I'm starting to trace my Harper family line, which I believe comes down from the Lincoln Harper-Eleanor Shufflebarger union. I'm trying to connect from Roy E. Harper (born 1896, Il - died 1970, CA, spouse Amelia Helen Arlotta) to James H. Harper (1865-1903, spouse Mary E. Owens), then to Lincoln Harper (1821-1887, 1st spouse either Polly Ann or Mary Ann Trigg, 2nd spouse Nancy Bowman (nee Jones), and from there to the elder Lincoln Harper. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > >Jim Harper > >

I'm starting to trace my Harper family line, which I believe comes down from the Lincoln Harper-Eleanor Shufflebarger union. I'm trying to connect from Roy E. Harper (born 1896, Il - died 1970, CA, spouse Amelia Helen Arlotta) to James H. Harper (1865-1903, spouse Mary E. Owens), then to Lincoln Harper (1821-1887, 1st spouse either Polly Ann or Mary Ann Trigg, 2nd spouse Nancy Bowman (nee Jones), and from there to the elder Lincoln Harper. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jim Harper _____________________________________________________________ Animail.com - "Saving Animals & the Environment One E-Mail At A Time." Raise money for Animal and Environmental organizations by using a FREE email address from Animail.com! Choose from over 200 options, including: YourName@Animail.com YourName@LizardLover.com YourName@SaveDolphins.com YourName@GiantPandas.net YourName@ILoveLlamas.com YourName@ProtectAnimals.com. http://www.Animail.com

Judy Armstrong wrote: > Just a note here about the LDS files. The LDS organization makes no > attempt whatever to verify the accuracy of information submitted to > them and no representation that such "trees" are correct. They simply > see themselves as compilers of reports, and family trees submitted to > them are reports. In my own family I've found some very confused and > inaccurate family trees and family histories compiled from the > confused memories of the elderly. Of course, censuses have > inaccuracies too. I've found it's best to try to compile data from a > variety of sources and keep an open mind. > > Judy I do know that the DAR does not take those files as proof.

Just a note here about the LDS files. The LDS organization makes no attempt whatever to verify the accuracy of information submitted to them and no representation that such "trees" are correct. They simply see themselves as compilers of reports, and family trees submitted to them are reports. In my own family I've found some very confused and inaccurate family trees and family histories compiled from the confused memories of the elderly. Of course, censuses have inaccuracies too. I've found it's best to try to compile data from a variety of sources and keep an open mind. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Wiley" <swiley@visuallink.com> To: <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] ROSE/WHITESIDE >I am not trying to discount the Mormon Church, however, be VERY cautious > when you read information in their files that does NOT make sense to you. > Someone put information about my grandfather in the LDS files which stated > he and his wife had only ONE daughter, Mary. My grandparents NEVER had a > child named Mary, but they are both buried next to their daughter-in-law > Mary at Rock Springs Cemetery. Perhaps someone made the assumption Mary > was > their daughter because she had the same last name and was very young and > she > was buried next to them. She died in childbirth. > Sharon Guynn Wiley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Payo" <donnap@wi.rr.com> > To: <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:31 AM > Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] ROSE/WHITESIDE > > >> Thanks for your reply, but I think this is quite strange or more >> confusing >> as for Elizabeth's maiden name. >> >> One, there were no HOBBS in the IL territory for the 1807 census. But > there >> was a John Barnett along w/the Rose's!!! Confusing to say the least!!! >> The Hobbs don't show up until the 1830 census for Pope Co. and their >> names >> were Christopher & Isaac. >> On the LDS site there is a Elizabeth Barnett whose father is listed as a >> John Barnett, she was born in 1785, KY, which I was told from the Johnson >> mailing list, that on the 1860 mortality schedule this list her place of >> birth. >> So far its not making sense to me that her maiden name was Hobbs when > there >> weren't any in Southern IL until 1830. >> Thanx for the new info on the Whiteside. >> If I learn anything new on this I'll be sure to let you know. I plan on >> researching this more til it does make better sense to me. >> >> Donna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "cswr" <cswr@earthlink.net> >> To: <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] ROSE/WHITESIDE >> >> >> Here are two Whiteside/Rose connections in my data. (I am related >> through my >> HOLLOWAY branch that married into WHITESIDE family several times.) >> >> A. Milo Simpson Grant WHITESIDE & Amilda Ann "Milda" ROSE, marr 1894 >> Eddyville, Pope Co, IL, Bk A-1, pg 202, #1819 by J.B.Whiteside, >> M.G.; witness: Eva Maynor & Genry (Henry?) >> Gilbert at Wiley Rose residence **Double wedding ceremony w/ sister, >> Cora ROSE. >> >> >> B. Elizabeth HOBBS ROSE, marr James Armstrong Whitesides b. 1782 VA or NC >> his 1st marr 1803: Margaret PENNEY - they had 6 children, Pope Co, IL >> 2nd wife 1816: Elizabeth HOBBS-ROSE, "a widow" - they had 6 children, >> Pope Co, IL >> **James, Margaret and Elizabeth are buried in a private cemetery on the >> home farm, >> 2 1/2 miles south of Eddyville, IL, near New Liberty Church. >> >> ---a little WHITESIDE history: >> >> James, with his family came to Pope County about 1810-1812, bringing >> several slaves that were >> indentured to him when Illinois became a free state. Some stayed with >> him until his death (1848) >> and later formed a black settlement West of Eddyville, IL. >> >> James, his brother John, Adam McGhee, Lincoln Harper, Robert PENNEY and >> others started a settlement >> a few miles south of Eddyville, near New Liberty Church. When Illinois >> became a state, James served >> in the house of Representatives through several sessions, and also in >> the Senate. He was appointed >> as Captain of the Fourth Regiment of Illinois Militia on May 27, 1812. >> >> The WHITESIDES came originally from Ireland in the early 1700s, and >> settled in the Virginia >> Counties of Rockbridge and Augusta. James A. (born 1760 VA) was the son >> of Moses WHITESIDE. >> This James also had a son, James Armstrong, born about 1782 - the above >> subject. >> >> (*note source for above: "History and Families, 1816-1986, Pope County, >> IL" by Pope County >> Historical Society.) Turner Publishers, Paducah, KY. 42001 >> >> Sorry, I dont have any info / data on BARNETT. It appears >> that Elizabeth's maiden name is >> HOBBS, that she married a ROSE, became widowed and married WHITESIDE. >> >> >> >> Donna Payo wrote: >> >> >Heelo List, >> > >> >I'm hoping someone can help with some confusion about the ROSE/WHITESIDE >> family. I am related thru Edmond Rose and Elizabeth? thru their >> daughter >> Mary "Polly" who married James Grissom. >> > >> >Now my confusion goes as to what Elizabeth's maiden was. I've seen some >> trees have her as HOBBS, & some info has her as BARNETT. I've also seen > this >> on the LDS site. Is it the same Elizabeth or are they referring to two >> different women here!!! Confused??!!! I see from the LDS site that she >> married James A. Whiteside in 1816 but I've also seen her name as BARNETT >> and HOBBS/ROSE. Can anyone clarify this for me?? >> > >> >Thanks well in advance >> > >> >Donna >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 >> >> > >

I am not trying to discount the Mormon Church, however, be VERY cautious when you read information in their files that does NOT make sense to you. Someone put information about my grandfather in the LDS files which stated he and his wife had only ONE daughter, Mary. My grandparents NEVER had a child named Mary, but they are both buried next to their daughter-in-law Mary at Rock Springs Cemetery. Perhaps someone made the assumption Mary was their daughter because she had the same last name and was very young and she was buried next to them. She died in childbirth. Sharon Guynn Wiley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Payo" <donnap@wi.rr.com> To: <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] ROSE/WHITESIDE > Thanks for your reply, but I think this is quite strange or more confusing > as for Elizabeth's maiden name. > > One, there were no HOBBS in the IL territory for the 1807 census. But there > was a John Barnett along w/the Rose's!!! Confusing to say the least!!! > The Hobbs don't show up until the 1830 census for Pope Co. and their names > were Christopher & Isaac. > On the LDS site there is a Elizabeth Barnett whose father is listed as a > John Barnett, she was born in 1785, KY, which I was told from the Johnson > mailing list, that on the 1860 mortality schedule this list her place of > birth. > So far its not making sense to me that her maiden name was Hobbs when there > weren't any in Southern IL until 1830. > Thanx for the new info on the Whiteside. > If I learn anything new on this I'll be sure to let you know. I plan on > researching this more til it does make better sense to me. > > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cswr" <cswr@earthlink.net> > To: <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:01 PM > Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] ROSE/WHITESIDE > > > Here are two Whiteside/Rose connections in my data. (I am related > through my > HOLLOWAY branch that married into WHITESIDE family several times.) > > A. Milo Simpson Grant WHITESIDE & Amilda Ann "Milda" ROSE, marr 1894 > Eddyville, Pope Co, IL, Bk A-1, pg 202, #1819 by J.B.Whiteside, > M.G.; witness: Eva Maynor & Genry (Henry?) > Gilbert at Wiley Rose residence **Double wedding ceremony w/ sister, > Cora ROSE. > > > B. Elizabeth HOBBS ROSE, marr James Armstrong Whitesides b. 1782 VA or NC > his 1st marr 1803: Margaret PENNEY - they had 6 children, Pope Co, IL > 2nd wife 1816: Elizabeth HOBBS-ROSE, "a widow" - they had 6 children, > Pope Co, IL > **James, Margaret and Elizabeth are buried in a private cemetery on the > home farm, > 2 1/2 miles south of Eddyville, IL, near New Liberty Church. > > ---a little WHITESIDE history: > > James, with his family came to Pope County about 1810-1812, bringing > several slaves that were > indentured to him when Illinois became a free state. Some stayed with > him until his death (1848) > and later formed a black settlement West of Eddyville, IL. > > James, his brother John, Adam McGhee, Lincoln Harper, Robert PENNEY and > others started a settlement > a few miles south of Eddyville, near New Liberty Church. When Illinois > became a state, James served > in the house of Representatives through several sessions, and also in > the Senate. He was appointed > as Captain of the Fourth Regiment of Illinois Militia on May 27, 1812. > > The WHITESIDES came originally from Ireland in the early 1700s, and > settled in the Virginia > Counties of Rockbridge and Augusta. James A. (born 1760 VA) was the son > of Moses WHITESIDE. > This James also had a son, James Armstrong, born about 1782 - the above > subject. > > (*note source for above: "History and Families, 1816-1986, Pope County, > IL" by Pope County > Historical Society.) Turner Publishers, Paducah, KY. 42001 > > Sorry, I dont have any info / data on BARNETT. It appears > that Elizabeth's maiden name is > HOBBS, that she married a ROSE, became widowed and married WHITESIDE. > > > > Donna Payo wrote: > > >Heelo List, > > > >I'm hoping someone can help with some confusion about the ROSE/WHITESIDE > family. I am related thru Edmond Rose and Elizabeth? thru their daughter > Mary "Polly" who married James Grissom. > > > >Now my confusion goes as to what Elizabeth's maiden was. I've seen some > trees have her as HOBBS, & some info has her as BARNETT. I've also seen this > on the LDS site. Is it the same Elizabeth or are they referring to two > different women here!!! Confused??!!! I see from the LDS site that she > married James A. Whiteside in 1816 but I've also seen her name as BARNETT > and HOBBS/ROSE. Can anyone clarify this for me?? > > > >Thanks well in advance > > > >Donna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 > >

Just for further info, which may not be significant at all: Pope County, Illinois Marriage Books A-E, 1813 - 1877, shows one: Elizabeth BARNETT marr. to Samuel BURNES on Aug 11, 1849. (Book A, Page 408) - apparently this is not the Elizabeth you are searching In Pope County. HOBBS marriages listed between 1813-1836 were: *Abraham HOBBS to Miss Patsy SHELBY, Nov 03, 1828 *William HOBBS to Miss Elizabeth CASSINGER, July 15, 1830 (Soloman CASSINGER) also noted: William HOBBS to Miss Temperance GIBBS, May 28, 1835 and, Susan Catharine HOBBS to Burlin LEDBETTER, July 14, 1836 Wishing you much success on your journey. :o) === Donna Payo wrote: >Thanks for your reply, but I think this is quite strange or more confusing >as for Elizabeth's maiden name. > >One, there were no HOBBS in the IL territory for the 1807 census. But there >was a John Barnett along w/the Rose's!!! Confusing to say the least!!! >The Hobbs don't show up until the 1830 census for Pope Co. and their names >were Christopher & Isaac. >On the LDS site there is a Elizabeth Barnett whose father is listed as a >John Barnett, she was born in 1785, KY, which I was told from the Johnson >mailing list, that on the 1860 mortality schedule this list her place of >birth. >So far its not making sense to me that her maiden name was Hobbs when there >weren't any in Southern IL until 1830. >Thanx for the new info on the Whiteside. >If I learn anything new on this I'll be sure to let you know. I plan on >researching this more til it does make better sense to me. > >Donna >----- Original Message ----- >From: "cswr" <cswr@earthlink.net> >To: <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:01 PM >Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] ROSE/WHITESIDE > > >Here are two Whiteside/Rose connections in my data. (I am related >through my >HOLLOWAY branch that married into WHITESIDE family several times.) > >A. Milo Simpson Grant WHITESIDE & Amilda Ann "Milda" ROSE, marr 1894 > Eddyville, Pope Co, IL, Bk A-1, pg 202, #1819 by J.B.Whiteside, >M.G.; witness: Eva Maynor & Genry (Henry?) >Gilbert at Wiley Rose residence **Double wedding ceremony w/ sister, >Cora ROSE. > > >B. Elizabeth HOBBS ROSE, marr James Armstrong Whitesides b. 1782 VA or NC > his 1st marr 1803: Margaret PENNEY - they had 6 children, Pope Co, IL > 2nd wife 1816: Elizabeth HOBBS-ROSE, "a widow" - they had 6 children, >Pope Co, IL >**James, Margaret and Elizabeth are buried in a private cemetery on the >home farm, >2 1/2 miles south of Eddyville, IL, near New Liberty Church. > >---a little WHITESIDE history: > >James, with his family came to Pope County about 1810-1812, bringing >several slaves that were >indentured to him when Illinois became a free state. Some stayed with >him until his death (1848) >and later formed a black settlement West of Eddyville, IL. > >James, his brother John, Adam McGhee, Lincoln Harper, Robert PENNEY and >others started a settlement >a few miles south of Eddyville, near New Liberty Church. When Illinois >became a state, James served >in the house of Representatives through several sessions, and also in >the Senate. He was appointed >as Captain of the Fourth Regiment of Illinois Militia on May 27, 1812. > >The WHITESIDES came originally from Ireland in the early 1700s, and >settled in the Virginia >Counties of Rockbridge and Augusta. James A. (born 1760 VA) was the son >of Moses WHITESIDE. >This James also had a son, James Armstrong, born about 1782 - the above >subject. > >(*note source for above: "History and Families, 1816-1986, Pope County, >IL" by Pope County >Historical Society.) Turner Publishers, Paducah, KY. 42001 > >Sorry, I dont have any info / data on BARNETT. It appears >that Elizabeth's maiden name is >HOBBS, that she married a ROSE, became widowed and married WHITESIDE. > > > >Donna Payo wrote: > > > >>Heelo List, >> >>I'm hoping someone can help with some confusion about the ROSE/WHITESIDE >> >> >family. I am related thru Edmond Rose and Elizabeth? thru their daughter >Mary "Polly" who married James Grissom. > > >>Now my confusion goes as to what Elizabeth's maiden was. I've seen some >> >> >trees have her as HOBBS, & some info has her as BARNETT. I've also seen this >on the LDS site. Is it the same Elizabeth or are they referring to two >different women here!!! Confused??!!! I see from the LDS site that she >married James A. Whiteside in 1816 but I've also seen her name as BARNETT >and HOBBS/ROSE. Can anyone clarify this for me?? > > >>Thanks well in advance >> >>Donna >> >> >>

Thanks for your reply, but I think this is quite strange or more confusing as for Elizabeth's maiden name. One, there were no HOBBS in the IL territory for the 1807 census. But there was a John Barnett along w/the Rose's!!! Confusing to say the least!!! The Hobbs don't show up until the 1830 census for Pope Co. and their names were Christopher & Isaac. On the LDS site there is a Elizabeth Barnett whose father is listed as a John Barnett, she was born in 1785, KY, which I was told from the Johnson mailing list, that on the 1860 mortality schedule this list her place of birth. So far its not making sense to me that her maiden name was Hobbs when there weren't any in Southern IL until 1830. Thanx for the new info on the Whiteside. If I learn anything new on this I'll be sure to let you know. I plan on researching this more til it does make better sense to me. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "cswr" <cswr@earthlink.net> To: <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] ROSE/WHITESIDE Here are two Whiteside/Rose connections in my data. (I am related through my HOLLOWAY branch that married into WHITESIDE family several times.) A. Milo Simpson Grant WHITESIDE & Amilda Ann "Milda" ROSE, marr 1894 Eddyville, Pope Co, IL, Bk A-1, pg 202, #1819 by J.B.Whiteside, M.G.; witness: Eva Maynor & Genry (Henry?) Gilbert at Wiley Rose residence **Double wedding ceremony w/ sister, Cora ROSE. B. Elizabeth HOBBS ROSE, marr James Armstrong Whitesides b. 1782 VA or NC his 1st marr 1803: Margaret PENNEY - they had 6 children, Pope Co, IL 2nd wife 1816: Elizabeth HOBBS-ROSE, "a widow" - they had 6 children, Pope Co, IL **James, Margaret and Elizabeth are buried in a private cemetery on the home farm, 2 1/2 miles south of Eddyville, IL, near New Liberty Church. ---a little WHITESIDE history: James, with his family came to Pope County about 1810-1812, bringing several slaves that were indentured to him when Illinois became a free state. Some stayed with him until his death (1848) and later formed a black settlement West of Eddyville, IL. James, his brother John, Adam McGhee, Lincoln Harper, Robert PENNEY and others started a settlement a few miles south of Eddyville, near New Liberty Church. When Illinois became a state, James served in the house of Representatives through several sessions, and also in the Senate. He was appointed as Captain of the Fourth Regiment of Illinois Militia on May 27, 1812. The WHITESIDES came originally from Ireland in the early 1700s, and settled in the Virginia Counties of Rockbridge and Augusta. James A. (born 1760 VA) was the son of Moses WHITESIDE. This James also had a son, James Armstrong, born about 1782 - the above subject. (*note source for above: "History and Families, 1816-1986, Pope County, IL" by Pope County Historical Society.) Turner Publishers, Paducah, KY. 42001 Sorry, I dont have any info / data on BARNETT. It appears that Elizabeth's maiden name is HOBBS, that she married a ROSE, became widowed and married WHITESIDE. Donna Payo wrote: >Heelo List, > >I'm hoping someone can help with some confusion about the ROSE/WHITESIDE family. I am related thru Edmond Rose and Elizabeth? thru their daughter Mary "Polly" who married James Grissom. > >Now my confusion goes as to what Elizabeth's maiden was. I've seen some trees have her as HOBBS, & some info has her as BARNETT. I've also seen this on the LDS site. Is it the same Elizabeth or are they referring to two different women here!!! Confused??!!! I see from the LDS site that she married James A. Whiteside in 1816 but I've also seen her name as BARNETT and HOBBS/ROSE. Can anyone clarify this for me?? > >Thanks well in advance > >Donna > > > >

Here are two Whiteside/Rose connections in my data. (I am related through my HOLLOWAY branch that married into WHITESIDE family several times.) A. Milo Simpson Grant WHITESIDE & Amilda Ann "Milda" ROSE, marr 1894 Eddyville, Pope Co, IL, Bk A-1, pg 202, #1819 by J.B.Whiteside, M.G.; witness: Eva Maynor & Genry (Henry?) Gilbert at Wiley Rose residence **Double wedding ceremony w/ sister, Cora ROSE. B. Elizabeth HOBBS ROSE, marr James Armstrong Whitesides b. 1782 VA or NC his 1st marr 1803: Margaret PENNEY - they had 6 children, Pope Co, IL 2nd wife 1816: Elizabeth HOBBS-ROSE, "a widow" - they had 6 children, Pope Co, IL **James, Margaret and Elizabeth are buried in a private cemetery on the home farm, 2 1/2 miles south of Eddyville, IL, near New Liberty Church. ---a little WHITESIDE history: James, with his family came to Pope County about 1810-1812, bringing several slaves that were indentured to him when Illinois became a free state. Some stayed with him until his death (1848) and later formed a black settlement West of Eddyville, IL. James, his brother John, Adam McGhee, Lincoln Harper, Robert PENNEY and others started a settlement a few miles south of Eddyville, near New Liberty Church. When Illinois became a state, James served in the house of Representatives through several sessions, and also in the Senate. He was appointed as Captain of the Fourth Regiment of Illinois Militia on May 27, 1812. The WHITESIDES came originally from Ireland in the early 1700s, and settled in the Virginia Counties of Rockbridge and Augusta. James A. (born 1760 VA) was the son of Moses WHITESIDE. This James also had a son, James Armstrong, born about 1782 - the above subject. (*note source for above: "History and Families, 1816-1986, Pope County, IL" by Pope County Historical Society.) Turner Publishers, Paducah, KY. 42001 Sorry, I dont have any info / data on BARNETT. It appears that Elizabeth's maiden name is HOBBS, that she married a ROSE, became widowed and married WHITESIDE. Donna Payo wrote: >Heelo List, > >I'm hoping someone can help with some confusion about the ROSE/WHITESIDE family. I am related thru Edmond Rose and Elizabeth? thru their daughter Mary "Polly" who married James Grissom. > >Now my confusion goes as to what Elizabeth's maiden was. I've seen some trees have her as HOBBS, & some info has her as BARNETT. I've also seen this on the LDS site. Is it the same Elizabeth or are they referring to two different women here!!! Confused??!!! I see from the LDS site that she married James A. Whiteside in 1816 but I've also seen her name as BARNETT and HOBBS/ROSE. Can anyone clarify this for me?? > >Thanks well in advance > >Donna > > > >

Heelo List, I'm hoping someone can help with some confusion about the ROSE/WHITESIDE family. I am related thru Edmond Rose and Elizabeth? thru their daughter Mary "Polly" who married James Grissom. Now my confusion goes as to what Elizabeth's maiden was. I've seen some trees have her as HOBBS, & some info has her as BARNETT. I've also seen this on the LDS site. Is it the same Elizabeth or are they referring to two different women here!!! Confused??!!! I see from the LDS site that she married James A. Whiteside in 1816 but I've also seen her name as BARNETT and HOBBS/ROSE. Can anyone clarify this for me?? Thanks well in advance Donna

George KERR moved from near Nashville, Washington County, Illinois, to Golconda, transferring his church membership from the First Presbyterian Church in Nashville to the M.E. Church of Golconda on 14 May 1911. Are the church records of the M.E. Church available in one of the libraries or historical or genealogical societies? Also, I'm trying to find more information about George KERR's time in Golconda. Are there city directories available? George KERR left Golconda for California, but I don't know when and am trying to run that down. I'm planning a trip to do some on-site researching this spring. Any helpful hints would be appreciated, including newspaper clippings or abstracts available. Thank you for your assistance. Mike Jones Sun Prairie, WI

I'm looking for info.on a ROLLIE RUSSELL who is buried in the Reed-Dunn cem.close to Pope and Saline line in Delwood.He is buried beside a Sarah Reed Russell b.May 5,1882 d.Sept 24,1927 Saline co.and Geo.Milo Russell b.Mar.8,1880 d.Jan.24 1946 Saline co. I can't find Rollie in Saline co.so would someone check Pope co.for a listing for him anywhere.I have no date's for him.Just his name on a tombstone. Thank's Shirley from Cahokia IL.

There was a Bobb in the 1850 census. I wonder if this could have been Robb or Robbs. Sharon

I found an A. G. Robbs from AL living with a Mayfield family in the 1850 census. The wife was also from AL. I think the name was Rebecca. I thought perhaps A. G. was her brother. He was 18. She was only 23. I wonder if this could have been Alex Robbs. We have yet to connect him to our Robbs. Maybe I should say we haven't connected our Robbs to any other definitely. Sharon

Wilford Throgmorton was born in Tennessee in 1827 and moved to Illinois prior to 1852. His son, Thomas Guilford Throgmorton, was born in Illinois in 1852, and his grandson, John Oscar Throgmorton, was born in Pope County in 1880. Wilford is my grandchildren's gggg grandfather. Any info on this family would be greatly appreciated. Jack Ehmer

Taken from the Genealogy Society of Southern Illinois Newsletter ~ Volume 33, No.2 February 2005 page 12: POPE COUNTY COURTHOUSE Connie Gibbs, the Pope County Clerk, reports they have gone through all of the probate files in their office and found the following missing files. If anyone has these files, they would like it if they could return them (no questions asked). Or if someone has made a copy of the files in the past, they would like to have a copy of them for their records there in the Courthouse. If you can help, please contact Connie Gibbs, Pope County Clerk, P.O.B. 216, Golconda, IL 62938 Phone 618.683.4466. The missing files are: Theressa ADAMS – Box 95 John McCUNEY (George) – Box 54 Alexander BLAKE – Box 95 Thomas McDONALD – Box 46 William H. BOICOURT – Box 95 Edgar MODGLIN – Box 38 John COMPTON – Box 14 W.S. MORGAN – Box 30 James L. DIXON – Box 25 William PARKINSON – Box 87 Isaac F. FAUGHN – Box 33 Frank RAGAIN – Box 201 Wm. T. GIVEN – Box 36 Marcus RANDOLPH – Box 76 Artimesia J. GOSSAGE – Box 86 Mary RANDOLPH – Box 78 Jacob HARPER – Box 41 Samuel R. RANDOLPH – Box 91 John HAYS – Box 42 Martin V. SCOTT – Box 89

I don't know if you got this answered or not so will let you know what I found in the Pope Co., Ill State Census 1845,1855,1865 Daniel, E., G.W., Henry, Hiram, John, John D., Lucinda, Wm. and a H. Woods, William Woods. If I can be of any additional help let me know. Sue

I have some genealogy and pictures on the Abbotts. This branch went to Pope Co. I met Mary Abbott at the hospital this week and told her about what I received. Does anyone know if they have email? I know they live in Golconda. Does anyone have their address? Steve told me I could just write them at Golconda IL. I have the zip code. Sharon

Thank you for checking for me. Even though he is not there in 1865 helps me in tracking him down. Again thank you so much. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kenneths" <kenneths@logantele.com> To: <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 State Census > Brenda: > > Sorry, not listed in the book I have for 1865. > > Kenneth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <snoangel@bellsouth.net> > To: <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:30 PM > Subject: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 State Census > > > > Would someone please be so kind to let me know if there is a Nathan Nelson > in the 1865 State Census. If there is, would you please be kind to give the > information that goes with his name. > > > > Thank you, > > Brenda > > snoangel@bellsouth.net > > > > > >

Brenda: Sorry, not listed in the book I have for 1865. Kenneth ----- Original Message ----- From: <snoangel@bellsouth.net> To: <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 State Census > Would someone please be so kind to let me know if there is a Nathan Nelson in the 1865 State Census. If there is, would you please be kind to give the information that goes with his name. > > Thank you, > Brenda > snoangel@bellsouth.net > >