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    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County?
    2. The Browns
    3. dmd wrote: > > Alexander County where? > > ---------- > > From: The Browns <winston@apex.net> > > To: ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County? > > Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 11:43 PM > > > > Does anyone know if Alexander County has a rootsweb link? My > > greatgreatgrandfather is buried there. > > SharonIn Ill. I've found it. Thanks anyway. It is around Cairo... Sharon

    12/21/1998 11:29:27
    1. [ILPOPE-L] ALEXANDER COUNTY
    2. The Browns
    3. can't spell...

    12/21/1998 11:00:35
    1. [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County?
    2. The Browns
    3. Does anyone know if Alexander County has a rootsweb link? My greatgreatgrandfather is buried there. Sharon

    12/21/1998 10:43:47
    1. [ILPOPE-L] Fw: [ILGEN-L] [Fwd: Rootsweb]
    2. Ginger
    3. I don't usually do this, but since Rootsweb hosts our county sites, and all these mailing lists, for free I see nothing wrong with passing on the word to those who might be able to help if they knew it was needed. There is never any pressure from them and I respect them for that. If everyone who used one of RW's resources sent in a dollar they would have enough money to do incredible things for online genealogy. Ginger gingerh@intrnet.net > >> > >My apologies for the lengthy message, but I think it needed to be said. > >> > > > >> > > -B > >> > >============================================================ > >> > > > >> > >Karen and I are in the hole on RootsWeb; not only have we not been > >> > >paid anything, we've been paying out of our pockets for the > >> > >privilege of working here night and day without weekends or holidays. > >> > > > >> > >(Just *today* Karen and I took out a $25,000 loan to cover the fact > >> > >that the Palladium sponsorship has apparently died with their > >> > >acquisition by TLC, and to pay for the hardware we're going to need > >> > >to handle the new users we expect to have after Christmas.) > >> > > > >> > >Just so you fully understand what I've told you above, you should be > >> > >aware that in terms of traffic RootsWeb is one of the *top 25* or so > >> > >sites on the whole Internet. Folks who can run these sorts of > >> > >facilities are absurdly rare (there are a few hundred of them in the > >> > >whole world), and senior system administrators at the other "Top 25" > >> > >sites generally have salary+benefits+option packages that run in the > >> > >$200,000-500,000 per year and up range. > >> > > > >> > > ### > >> > > > >> > >Folks should be clear on the concept that the administration staff > >> > >at RootsWeb is making a huge contribution to the genealogical > >> > >community by essentially donating our time. The fact that each of > > >> > >us is personally donating services worth tens or even hundreds of > >> > >thousands of dollars a year is part of the reason we find it so > >> > >depressing that only about 2-6% of our users are choosing to support > >> > >RootsWeb at all, and that even among our supporters the average > >> > >contribution is only one-third of what "tens of thousands of > >> > >genealogists" (the Wall Street Journal) are spending at Ancestry.com. > >> > > > >> > >I don't think RootsWeb is going to fold anytime soon. But I'd be > >> > >lying to you if I didn't tell you that the staff is seriously > >> > >wondering whether the community values our efforts enough that > >> > >continuing on with RootsWeb makes sense. > >> > > > >> > >The admin staff wants to give the genealogical community a great > >> > >online genealogical library, but we can't do it if only 2-6% of our > >> > >users will voluntarily choose to support us. Without more support, > >> > >RootsWeb can't afford to buy the servers and bandwidth and scanners > >> > >and such that we need to bring online the whole US Census and the > >> > >British Birth/Marriage/Death records and all the other resources > >> > >we'd like to make freely available to the entire community. > >> > > > >> > >Maybe Ancestry has it right. Lock up the resources and charge the > >> > >users through the nose. Oh well. -B > >> > >============================================================ > >> > >> I know its a tough time of year but if you even have a spare $5.00 sitting > >> around, it would help. Details can be found at > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Illinois USGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgenweb > Illinois Ancestor Registry http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgenweb/queries > Stone Cnty MO., USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostone/stone.htm > Barry Cnty MO., USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/barry.htm

    12/21/1998 09:12:31
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County?
    2. Dale J & Cindy L Frie
    3. Sharon, If you have the date of death you might be able to find a death certificate at Springfield. I visited the State Archives a few years back and found a gold mine. You sit and view the microfilm and can make copies from it for 50 cents. I was able to copy, births, marriages, deaths and some other court records for 50 cents each then bring everything home and make connections later on. I thought I was in heaven. But again if you can not make it to the Archives (or maybe it was the state library) you can always write and get a copy of the certificate for about $10.00. Good Luck Cindy L Skiles Frie "SkiFri" > We found a book which has him listed at Lindsay. That was a > shot in the dark, since we assumed he was buried at Sulfur Springs in > Pope County with his wife and several of his children.My husband went to > the library here in Paducah and found that. A cousin sent us the list of > his children with the first two or three born in Alexander. What we > want to know is when and how long he lived at Clear Creek? Why he is > buried there and not with his wife. Who his parents are, etc. I am also > searching Stewart Co.,Tn where he was born. I found a William Robbs in > the 1840 census there. I only looked at the Stewart Co. weblink, so not > much is available. I have found a lot in the Pope History Book on John > Randolph and Mary Ann reevis, Catherine's mother. They had several > children. He remarried later and more children. The James W. Robbs is > the stopping point. Oh, Lindsay Cem has him listed as James D. Robbs, > but the date of death is the same. My cousin's research also confirms > the James W.and the date of death. > Thanks for your help. I'll look into Union too. > Sharon

    12/21/1998 09:08:09
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County?
    2. Dale J & Cindy L Frie
    3. Sharon, I know this is a long shot my father had a cousin who married a Trunie Brown, born in 1892. I do not know the names of his parents. Trunie died in Aug., 1982. Trunie's wife is buried in the Phillip's Cemetery. I know of one other cemetery in Alexander CO. I am sure there are more. It is the Lindsey Cemetery. This is quite a good size cemetery. Years ago someone printed quite a large book listing cemeteries of Alexander CO, and people buried there. If you live in IL you shouldn't have any problem getting it through Interlibrary loan. I remember hearing talk about 6 years back about someone updating the book One other thing some of the people who lived in Alexander CO, also lived were connected with people of Union CO. They border each other. My father's family bounced around between the two counties. Cindy L Skiles Frie The Browns wrote: > Does anyone know if Alexander County has a rootsweb link? My > greatgreatgrandfather is buried there. > Sharon

    12/21/1998 08:01:48
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County?
    2. Dale J & Cindy L Frie
    3. Alexander CO, IL dmd wrote: > Alexander County where? > > ---------- > > From: The Browns <winston@apex.net> > > To: ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County? > > Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 11:43 PM > > > > Does anyone know if Alexander County has a rootsweb link? My > > greatgreatgrandfather is buried there. > > Sharon

    12/21/1998 07:09:01
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County?
    2. Dale J & Cindy L Frie
    3. The following is the address for US Gen web Alexander CO, I think this is what you are asking for. They also have an Alexander CO List Serve. It is not nearly as active as Pope CO's . I have sent a few questions and have received good responses though. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilalexan/alexander.htm Good Luck Cindy L Skiles Frie The Browns wrote: > Does anyone know if Alexander County has a rootsweb link? My > greatgreatgrandfather is buried there. > Sharon

    12/21/1998 06:42:07
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County?
    2. dmd
    3. Alexander County where? ---------- > From: The Browns <winston@apex.net> > To: ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County? > Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 11:43 PM > > Does anyone know if Alexander County has a rootsweb link? My > greatgreatgrandfather is buried there. > Sharon

    12/21/1998 06:33:59
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Alesander County?
    2. In a message dated 12/21/98 8:52:00 PM Central Standard Time, SKIFRI@techheadnet.com writes: > Phillip's Cemetery. I know > of one other cemetery in Alexander, CO. I am sure there are more. It is > the Lindsey Cemetery. Sharon the Phillp's Cemetery is in Mill Creek. And the Lindsey is on Grape Vine Trail Rd. in McClure,IL. which is on Rt.# 3 and Grape Vine Trail Rd. There isn't any cemeteries in Cairo because of the high water level. Most are buried in Pulaski,Co.IL. if they lived in the tip of Alexander,Co.IL. Kay

    12/21/1998 03:35:48
    1. [ILPOPE-L] Taylor, Williams
    2. The Browns
    3. Beginning new search on Williams and Taylor families. Both Schuchardt girls, daughters of Joseph and Charlotte Schuchardt. Thank you... Sharon Brown

    12/19/1998 07:54:18
    1. [ILPOPE-L] Randolphs
    2. The Browns
    3. Searching for information on Sophia Catherine Randolph Robbs. I noticed several Randolphs buried at Sulfur Springs. Anyone related? Sharon

    12/19/1998 07:41:20
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Re: question
    2. Jon Musgrave
    3. >Laura: > My ancestor, William BAKER, did the same thing. Came from North Carolina, to >Tennessee and on to Pope County, about 1816. I would like to know the answer >to that one also, "Why??" I have heard somewhere along the way that land in >Pope County was cheap for serving in the war. Don't know if that's true or >not. Anyone out there with the answers?? >Thanks, >Bonnie Don't ask me for the source on this, but someplace I have come across a reference to a really bad drought in North Carolina around that year (give or take one). Jon Musgrave jonm@midamer.net Check out Jon's Southern Illinois History Page at http://users.midamer.net/jonm Gallatin County ILGenWeb Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/index.html

    12/17/1998 01:57:13
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Re: Romine
    2. Ed Mount
    3. I have a friend down in Salem, Arkansas, named Ray Romine. Any interest? -----Original Message----- From: Audrey J. Burba <aburba@mail.win.org> To: ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com <ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] Re: question >Hello,mine left Tn for Pope County Illinois and joined the 131st Infantry >only to be sent to Tn and died there.His name was Martin M.Romine.Would >anyone have any info on a Romine line in that area.I know his sons Thomas >and Hiram moved to Hardin County then into Crittenden county Ky.where >their sister married A.B.Childress from that area but that is all I know >about them.Any in put would be most appreciated. > > > > > > > >On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 SSmith0940@aol.com wrote: > >> My folks left Bledsoe Co., TN because of the war. They didn't like the way >> things were going politically in Tennessee. He was conscripted into the >> Confederate army (per some family historians), and escaped, deserted, slipped >> off, or whatever, went to Kentucky and joined a Union unit, served his year >> and then went on up to Franklin Co., IL >> >> I don't know if this was a common reason for going to a "free state" about >> that time. >> >> Sam in KY >> >> In a message dated 12/15/98 12:59:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, >> Laura1853@aol.com writes: >> >> << Subj: [ILPOPE-L] Re: question >> Date: 12/15/98 12:59:49 PM Pacific Standard Time >> From: Laura1853@aol.com >> Reply-to: ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com >> To: ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com >> >> Hi, everyone. I was wondering if anyone knew why so many people left KY to >> go >> to >> Southern Illinois (Pope Co.) back in the 1800's. Was it for farming/land? I >> have been >> researching my ancestors and they mostly started out in NC, SC, then TN or >> KY, >> then ended in Pope Co., Illinois. >> I was just wondering from you history buffs what the attraction was? >> Please respond. >> Thanks, >> Laura >> >> >> >> ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >> >> >> > >

    12/16/1998 07:23:48
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Re: question
    2. Laura: My ancestor, William BAKER, did the same thing. Came from North Carolina, to Tennessee and on to Pope County, about 1816. I would like to know the answer to that one also, "Why??" I have heard somewhere along the way that land in Pope County was cheap for serving in the war. Don't know if that's true or not. Anyone out there with the answers?? Thanks, Bonnie

    12/16/1998 06:35:09
    1. [ILPOPE-L] Re: ILPOPE-D Digest V98 #150
    2. Thanks everyone for your helpful info. on why people moved from TN or KY into southern Illinois. Laura

    12/16/1998 03:35:41
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Re: ILPOPE-D Digest V98 #145
    2. Luann Lewandowski
    3. Ann Horne wrote: > > Searching for Womacks in Illinois--especially Abraham and/or Allen. > They were in the 1818 state census in Pope County. Anybody related? > Ann in CA Hi Ann, My gggrandmother was Aquilla Womack Carter. I know very little about her. She was born approximately 1788. Believe she was first married to a Mr. Carter before her marriage to Francis R. Hogg in Pope Co. Jan 14, 1816. Any connection? Would love to hear from anyone regarding Womacks. Thanks, LuAnn in Michigan

    12/16/1998 02:51:20
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Re: question
    2. Jon Musgrave
    3. >Hi, everyone. I was wondering if anyone knew why so many people left KY to go >to >Southern Illinois (Pope Co.) back in the 1800's. Was it for farming/land? I >have been >researching my ancestors and they mostly started out in NC, SC, then TN or KY, >then ended in Pope Co., Illinois. >I was just wondering from you history buffs what the attraction was? >Please respond. >Thanks, >Laura First, there was the frontiersmen and their families. They are the ones who thought the country was getting too settled when they could here the sound of a neighbor hunting. To them, they had to be on the frontier, or somewhere beyond. Another problem settlers had in Kentucky particularly would have been the various land claims. It's even one of the reasons that drove Daniel Boone out. Getting and keeping clear title to land was an expensive chore in Kentucky whereas, land across the Ohio River was easy to secure since surveyors followed a sensible grid rather than the metes and bounds used in older settlements. Another benefit of the land surveys came with public education and roads. In Kentucky, most early roads developed as private toll roads, rather than public rights-of-way. Since Congress stopped making large land grants in Illinois, the local counties were able to establish public roads as needed, compensating land owners with the benefit of being on a road. Congress also allowed the proceeds from Section 16 of each Congressional township (one square mile out of every 36) to be set aside for education. Kentucky's history of an inferior public education system derives from this tidbit of history. Also, Illinois and Congress worked together to set aside various other lands for saltworks, lead mines, canals and railroads. The proceeds from these land sales also benefited the state in many ways. When the state first sold off land in the Gallatin Salines (the saltworks around Equality) the General Assembly used the land to build the first penitentiary at Alton and for various road and bridge projects throughout the state. Kentucky never had this chance for public financing of large improvements which made Illinois and Indiana more desirable. Also, Kentucky was a blatant slave state, unlike the Illinois which simply turned a blind eye and called it indentured servitude. Many families who were opposed to slavery, or at least opposed to the cheap labor that unfairly competed with them, decided to move to a free state like Illinois. Hope this helps. Jon Musgrave jonm@midamer.net Check out Jon's Southern Illinois History Page at http://users.midamer.net/jonm Gallatin County ILGenWeb Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/index.html

    12/16/1998 01:08:42
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Re: question
    2. Greg Simmons
    3. Laura1853@aol.com; It was not the farming but it was where the trail led. It was the modern highway of the time. Indians lived in certian areas of what is Tennessee now. They had to by pass the area and one route led down through the tip of southern Illinois through Johnson and pope Counties are. That is where my ancestors settled. The other Route was through Lincoln County Tennessee and the middle of the state of Illinois to Missouri. When people traveled through the route to the tip of Illinois they Settled in the counties that were near this road way. Most of the area away from this road way was unsettled and they had to live near areas where they could get ahold of supplies. My Ancestors came to pope and Johnson county where there was very little people and there was plenty of Wild game and water. There was several large cities near by where they could get supplies when they needed them. Greg Simmons

    12/15/1998 08:56:41
    1. Re: [ILPOPE-L] Re: question
    2. Audrey J. Burba
    3. Hello,mine left Tn for Pope County Illinois and joined the 131st Infantry only to be sent to Tn and died there.His name was Martin M.Romine.Would anyone have any info on a Romine line in that area.I know his sons Thomas and Hiram moved to Hardin County then into Crittenden county Ky.where their sister married A.B.Childress from that area but that is all I know about them.Any in put would be most appreciated. On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 SSmith0940@aol.com wrote: > My folks left Bledsoe Co., TN because of the war. They didn't like the way > things were going politically in Tennessee. He was conscripted into the > Confederate army (per some family historians), and escaped, deserted, slipped > off, or whatever, went to Kentucky and joined a Union unit, served his year > and then went on up to Franklin Co., IL > > I don't know if this was a common reason for going to a "free state" about > that time. > > Sam in KY > > In a message dated 12/15/98 12:59:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Laura1853@aol.com writes: > > << Subj: [ILPOPE-L] Re: question > Date: 12/15/98 12:59:49 PM Pacific Standard Time > From: Laura1853@aol.com > Reply-to: ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com > To: ILPOPE-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi, everyone. I was wondering if anyone knew why so many people left KY to > go > to > Southern Illinois (Pope Co.) back in the 1800's. Was it for farming/land? I > have been > researching my ancestors and they mostly started out in NC, SC, then TN or > KY, > then ended in Pope Co., Illinois. > I was just wondering from you history buffs what the attraction was? > Please respond. > Thanks, > Laura > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >> > >

    12/15/1998 08:06:32