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Dear List, The book, "Obituaries, Johnson and Pope Counties, Illinois Oct. 2000 - Dec, 2001" is available through the Johnson County Genealogical and Historical Society. E-mail: [email protected] It has 170 pages, every name indexed, softbound with laminated cover. Faye -- Johnson and Pope County History ( Website under construction) web page: http://www.shawneelink.net/~fayebow/ "Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts..... And be thankful." Colossians 3:15

Judy, We compiled the Pope Co IL 1845, 1855 & 1865 State Census. I know the Massac Co Gene Soc compiled the 1855 State Census for Massac Co and John V. Murphy compiled the 1855 & 1865 State Census for Saline Co. I don't know if the other surrounding counties have published state census or not. Maybe somebody else knows. Judy Judy Foreman Lee [email protected]

Thank you, Judy. One of my families got "lost" between 1860 and 1870. They had a son born during that time in Illinois, but no one knows where. Without knowing the county, an index is about the only hope. Judy [email protected] wrote:Judy, We compiled the Pope Co IL 1845, 1855 & 1865 State Census. I know the Massac Co Gene Soc compiled the 1855 State Census for Massac Co and John V. Murphy compiled the 1855 & 1865 State Census for Saline Co. I don't know if the other surrounding counties have published state census or not. Maybe somebody else knows. Judy Judy Foreman Lee [email protected] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

Judy, Did you and Carolyn do an index for the entire state or just Pope County? > Carolyn Cromeenes Foss & I compiled & indexed > the 3 state census reports in 1991. The book in the > court house was not an index it was the compiled state > census for 1845, 1855, & 1865. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

Judy, Thanks so much for the lookups. > Carolyn Cromeenes Foss & I compiled & indexed > the 3 state census reports in 1991. The book in the > court house was not an index it was the compiled state > census for 1845, 1855, & 1865. Since I don't see this publication at your Lee & Foss website, I guess it is no longer in print. Is there any chance you may reprint it in the future or make it available online? Have a great weekend, -Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:45 AM Subject: [ILPOPE-L] State Census > Stan, > Your W.C. SHARP was in the 1855 & 1865 PCSC. > Bk pg 30 ~ SC1855 pg 24 - SHARP, W.C. total of 7 living in household between WILLIAMS, John C. & SMITH, Jon E. > Bk pg 61 ~ SC1865 - Golconda Precinct - SHARP, W.C. total of 11 in family living between KLUGE, G. & HEMPHILL, S.D. > Hope this helps, enjoy the holiday wk-end, Judy > > Judy Foreman Lee > [email protected] > >

Stan, Your W.C. SHARP was in the 1855 & 1865 PCSC. Bk pg 30 ~ SC1855 pg 24 - SHARP, W.C. total of 7 living in household between WILLIAMS, John C. & SMITH, Jon E. Bk pg 61 ~ SC1865 - Golconda Precinct - SHARP, W.C. total of 11 in family living between KLUGE, G. & HEMPHILL, S.D. Hope this helps, enjoy the holiday wk-end, Judy Judy Foreman Lee [email protected]

Carolyn Cromeenes Foss & I compiled & indexed the 3 state census reports in 1991. The book in the court house was not an index it was the compiled state census for 1845, 1855, & 1865. In the state census they did not list everyone in the household, they listed the head of the household and then marks in age groups for the rest. On Bk pg 37 ~ SC-1855 pg 48 -BOWMAN, Farrose-4 in household, living between CASLLEN, Wm. & GLASS, W.A. I hope this helps and I also hope everyone has a safe holiday wk-end. Judy Judy Foreman Lee [email protected]

Thanks Brenda, that "it was very readable" was what I was hoping to hear! Looks like HeritageQuest has a copy that I can borrow. So I'll give that a try. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > Hi Stan, whenI lived in Dallas Tx, they had the 1865 Illinois state > Census on microfilm and I can not recall if it was all there, but I > believe it was. I know that it was very readable. you may request it > from your library. Brenda > >

I'm looking for any DICKEN/DICKENS/DICKIN/DICKINS in Pope County in that year. Specific Christian names: Joseph Elizabeth Hardy C. William Frances Mary Martha Rose Thanx [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > ILPOPE-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 167 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Cen ["Stan Mitchell" <[email protected]] > #2 Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State [CarolSue Robinson <[email protected]] > #3 Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State ["Stan Mitchell" <[email protected]] > #4 Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State [[email protected]] > #5 RE: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State ["Dale J & Cindy L Frie" <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from ILPOPE-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:47:49 -0700 > From: "Stan Mitchell" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hello all, > > Has anyone examined the 1865 state census for Pope County? > I'm wondering if the microfilm is fairly complete and whether > it is readable. > > I looked at an index to the census that was available at > the Golconda court house and I found an ancestor listed. > When I requested a copy of the record from Illinois State > Archives, they replied that the name couldn't be found. > > Could it be that the index was prepared from a better copy > than what is available today? > > Is the index publication still in print? > > Thanks for any info, > Stan Mitchell > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:13:11 -0700 > From: CarolSue Robinson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Stan...could you give us the name of your ancestor? > That would help a great deal. :o) > Carol R. > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > Stan Mitchell wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Has anyone examined the 1865 state census for Pope County? > > I'm wondering if the microfilm is fairly complete and whether > > it is readable. > > > > I looked at an index to the census that was available at > > the Golconda court house and I found an ancestor listed. > > When I requested a copy of the record from Illinois State > > Archives, they replied that the name couldn't be found. > > > > Could it be that the index was prepared from a better copy > > than what is available today? > > > > Is the index publication still in print? > > > > Thanks for any info, > > Stan Mitchell > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:17:38 -0700 > From: "Stan Mitchell" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Oops, my ancestor is William C. Sharp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "CarolSue Robinson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:13 PM > Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > > > Stan...could you give us the name of your ancestor? > > That would help a great deal. :o) > > Carol R. > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Stan Mitchell wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > Has anyone examined the 1865 state census for Pope County? > > > I'm wondering if the microfilm is fairly complete and whether > > > it is readable. > > > > > > I looked at an index to the census that was available at > > > the Golconda court house and I found an ancestor listed. > > > When I requested a copy of the record from Illinois State > > > Archives, they replied that the name couldn't be found. > > > > > > Could it be that the index was prepared from a better copy > > > than what is available today? > > > > > > Is the index publication still in print? > > > > > > Thanks for any info, > > > Stan Mitchell > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 06:40:27 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Hi Stan, whenI lived in Dallas Tx, they had the 1865 Illinois state > Census on microfilm and I can not recall if it was all there, but I > believe it was. I know that it was very readable. you may request it > from your library. Brenda > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:19:10 -0400 > From: "Dale J & Cindy L Frie" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I have viewed some indexes where the transcriber would spell a word or name > different than the spelling I read it to be on the actual document. This > could be the result of a hard to read microfilm or glare from the reader. > Did you them check for different spellings? > > Cindy L. (Skiles) Frie > "skifri" > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stan Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:18 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > > Oops, my ancestor is William C. Sharp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "CarolSue Robinson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:13 PM > Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > > > Stan...could you give us the name of your ancestor? > > That would help a great deal. :o) > > Carol R. > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Stan Mitchell wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > Has anyone examined the 1865 state census for Pope County? > > > I'm wondering if the microfilm is fairly complete and whether > > > it is readable. > > > > > > I looked at an index to the census that was available at > > > the Golconda court house and I found an ancestor listed. > > > When I requested a copy of the record from Illinois State > > > Archives, they replied that the name couldn't be found. > > > > > > Could it be that the index was prepared from a better copy > > > than what is available today? > > > > > > Is the index publication still in print? > > > > > > Thanks for any info, > > > Stan Mitchell > > > >

i am also interested in this census (didn't know there was one) as my ggrandfather has prooved to be most illusive. he and family were in pope co in 1860 census farro bowman julia james t samuel d b 1856 and my ggrandfather edwin edward martha b 1864 so should be there if anyone has avilability to this census i would appreciate knowing if there were still there. farro is sometimes farrow and one census has him as faris. thanks so much. karen in CA

I have viewed some indexes where the transcriber would spell a word or name different than the spelling I read it to be on the actual document. This could be the result of a hard to read microfilm or glare from the reader. Did you them check for different spellings? Cindy L. (Skiles) Frie "skifri" -----Original Message----- From: Stan Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census Oops, my ancestor is William C. Sharp ----- Original Message ----- From: "CarolSue Robinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > Stan...could you give us the name of your ancestor? > That would help a great deal. :o) > Carol R. > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > Stan Mitchell wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Has anyone examined the 1865 state census for Pope County? > > I'm wondering if the microfilm is fairly complete and whether > > it is readable. > > > > I looked at an index to the census that was available at > > the Golconda court house and I found an ancestor listed. > > When I requested a copy of the record from Illinois State > > Archives, they replied that the name couldn't be found. > > > > Could it be that the index was prepared from a better copy > > than what is available today? > > > > Is the index publication still in print? > > > > Thanks for any info, > > Stan Mitchell > >

Hi Stan, whenI lived in Dallas Tx, they had the 1865 Illinois state Census on microfilm and I can not recall if it was all there, but I believe it was. I know that it was very readable. you may request it from your library. Brenda

Oops, my ancestor is William C. Sharp ----- Original Message ----- From: "CarolSue Robinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] 1865 Illinois State Census > Stan...could you give us the name of your ancestor? > That would help a great deal. :o) > Carol R. > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > Stan Mitchell wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Has anyone examined the 1865 state census for Pope County? > > I'm wondering if the microfilm is fairly complete and whether > > it is readable. > > > > I looked at an index to the census that was available at > > the Golconda court house and I found an ancestor listed. > > When I requested a copy of the record from Illinois State > > Archives, they replied that the name couldn't be found. > > > > Could it be that the index was prepared from a better copy > > than what is available today? > > > > Is the index publication still in print? > > > > Thanks for any info, > > Stan Mitchell > >

Stan...could you give us the name of your ancestor? That would help a great deal. :o) Carol R. ~~~~~~~~~~ Stan Mitchell wrote: > Hello all, > > Has anyone examined the 1865 state census for Pope County? > I'm wondering if the microfilm is fairly complete and whether > it is readable. > > I looked at an index to the census that was available at > the Golconda court house and I found an ancestor listed. > When I requested a copy of the record from Illinois State > Archives, they replied that the name couldn't be found. > > Could it be that the index was prepared from a better copy > than what is available today? > > Is the index publication still in print? > > Thanks for any info, > Stan Mitchell

Hello all, Has anyone examined the 1865 state census for Pope County? I'm wondering if the microfilm is fairly complete and whether it is readable. I looked at an index to the census that was available at the Golconda court house and I found an ancestor listed. When I requested a copy of the record from Illinois State Archives, they replied that the name couldn't be found. Could it be that the index was prepared from a better copy than what is available today? Is the index publication still in print? Thanks for any info, Stan Mitchell

Dear list: I am looking for direct descendants of Sherman and Margaret Snider Emery. Margaret Emery was my mother's aunt. I have inherited a photo and obituary that I would like to return to the family. Susan

Carol, Just a quick note to let you know that I received your message. I am at work and doing this by memory. Elijah is Elijah T Williams s/o Francis Marion Williams and Mary Melissa Finney. Elijah and Rutha had several children only one of which I have been able to document lived to adulthood. This was Creddie Williams who married Carrie Anna Werner. They had 5 children Creddie Jr. who died as an infant and was buried at the German Cemetary (Waltersburg I think) Bertha Marie (my mother) Alice, Alfred Wayland and Raymond Lee. I am working on the parents of Francis Marion and it appears that they are James Williams of MO and Margaret Ann Slaughter. I believe this to be correct but am still documenting. I will try to get more to you this weekend from home. I would appreciate anything that you have on the Werners. Thanks for all of your help. Doug Barnes CarolSue Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: >Doug...please send me your info on WILLIAMS, Elijah and Rutha. >I need to compare notes, as there are 3 Elijah WILLIAMS in the >Pope County vicinity.  Also, I have MUCH info on Werner(s), >and would be happy to send you what I have...  Please contact >me off the list to make arrangements on getting it to you. >I show Carrie Anne as the daughter of Henry W. (Woerner) WERNER >and Veronika Ann (Gueple) GABLE.  She is one of 8 children, but >I have no birth date on her except after 1885. > >Looking forward to hearing from you, >Carol > > >Doug Barnes wrote: > >> Cousin Carol, Thanks for the information.  I descend from Carrie Anna Werner.  She married Creddie Williams son of Elijah Williams and Ruth (Rutha) S Barger.  I have not had much luck tracing back the Werners.  I would appreciate any information that you might have and I would share anything that I would have.  Again thanks for your help. >> >> CarolSue Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >Hello cousin Doug....Veronika (GOEPLE) GABLE was also my great-grandmother! >> >Her parents were: John (GABLE/GOEBEL/GOEPEL) GUEPLE and Catherine HEITRICH. >> >Veronika was b. July 1865 at Herda, SW Eisenach, Thuringia, Germany >> >-emigrated 1881 from Wurttemburg.  She married Henry W. (Woerner) WERNER >> >June 05, 1884, Pope Co, IL - Reg A-1, pg 78, #0220, by George Blatter, M.G. >> >at Andy GOEPEL residence. Witt: George Klink/ Anna Walter. They had >> >five children, and I descend from grandfather: Oscar C. WERNER. >> > >> >I do not find any Veronika/Veronica listed in the 1880 Pope Co, IL Census >> >with a surname beginning with "C", "G", or "K".  It is possible that she met >> >Mr. Werner in PA, where so many of the WERNER family member emigrated >> >to from the old country, before settling in Pope County, IL.  In the 1900 Pope >> >Co, IL Census, listed in Eddyville Prct, enumerated by A.B.King, hshold #62/64 >> >is C. (Conrad) GOEPEL, b. 10/1853, 46 years old, GERMANY, marr. 25 years and >> >Caroline, (7 children/ 5 living) b. 01/1851, 49 years old, GERMANY, marr. 25 years, with 5 children: >> >Fritz b. 03/1878, 22 years old GERMANY, and other children born in IL: Mollie 1883, >> >Andy 1885, Dora 1890, Uda 1893.  (I suspect that Veronika is a younger sister of >> >Conrad.)  Their year of immigration is the same (1881).  On the Census this GOEPEL >> >couple and oldest son are in the USA for 19 years.  Under the Naturalization column >> >was "Nat."....probably meaning "Naturalized". >> > >> >In the 1900 Pope Co, IL Census, listed for Golconda Prct, hshold #280/280 is >> >Henry WERNER b. 02/1860, 40 years old, PA, parents b. in GERMANY, marr. 16 >> >years, with wife: Veronica (7 children/4 living) b. 07/1865, 34 years old, GERMANY, >> >married 16 years, and 4 children: Mary A. 04/1885; Oscar 03/1892; William 01/1895; >> >Mabel 10/1889....all born in Illinois.  (Veronica's year of emigration is also 1881, >> >Years in the USA - 19...and no information given under Naturalization column. >> >Veronica Ann's father in law, was Edward WERNER, a Lutheran Minister. >> > >> >The following GABLE(s) are listed in the Family History book: >> >Carolyn Sue, Dorothy Louise, Esther, Eva (Harper), Lavern, Lillian B. (Terry), >> >Mary, Merle, Russell, Veronica, and Vernoica Ann.  Veronica and Veronica Ann >> >are the same person. >> > >> >Carol >> >NW California >> >----------- >> >Doug Barnes wrote: >> > >> >> Jan, >> >> Do you have a connection to Veronika Gable (Goepel).  She was my gr grandmother.  Thanks  for the help. >> >> ------------- >> >> "Jan Patton" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >I'm looking for Naturalization or Citizenship of Conrad and Caroline Goepel Gable or son,Fritz who immigrated to PopeCo., Il. in 1881.  I don't know when or if they were naturalized. Can anyone tell me how to find out? >> >> > >> >> >Jan >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. 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I need any help I can get.....I started researching my granddaughters' father's side, which is the BOWMAN-DOYLE-BATES-ELDER family. Fred Bates was the son of Douglas C. Bates & Alpha J. Volle and his wife Ruth Elder was the daughter of Mack D. Elder and Delsa C. Campbell. Delsa was the daughter of James H. Campbell and his 4th wife, Augusta A. Aly. This is where I really need the help. Who were the parents of James H.? Were they: James Campbell & unknown or James Campbell & Malinda Henley or could it be James Campbell and Malinda Smith, who was married to William Henley first? Is anyone working on this Campbell/Henley family from southern Pope or can anyone please give me some clues. Thanks for anything, Judy Judy Foreman Lee [email protected]

Hi List, If you are looking for CHARLES COLE BARTLETT who was born in Pope Co., Illinois, I have his info. Please contact me and I will be glad to share. Thanks, Sarah