Carol, I don't have a birthdate but his will (#272, Book L) was filed in 1828 in Caswell Co. NC.---At one time I had a book of Caswell Co. Records from the Shawnee Collection after it was moved to Mt. Vernon Illinois and Obediah was mentioned quite often--I remember I copied nearly half the book. This is where I got the names of his children and the information on at least 2 other families in my line. Joan

Thanks for replying so quickly! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Ceballos" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] request for census lookup > 1900 Pope Co. Federal Census > Columbus Precinct, Enumeration District 57 > > > 88/88 > > name/relationship/race/gender/month & year of birth/age/marital status/years > married/birthplace/father's birthplace/mother's birthplace/occupation > > Adams, John D./Head-W/M/11-1850/49/M/08*/IA/IA/IA/Farmer > Catherine (3/2)/Wife/W/F/08-1846/53/M/08/PA/GE/GE > John D./son/W/M/11-1881/18/S/-/IL/IA/IA/farm laborer > James/son/W/M/01-1884/16/S/-/IL/IA/IA/farm laborer > George W./son/W/M/09-1886/13**/S/-/IL/IA/IA/farm laborer > Catherine N./Daughter/W/F/02-1895/5/S/-/IL/IL/IA > Hans, George H./son/w/m/10-1886/13**/S/-/IL/GE/PA/farm laborer > > * = 8 had been written over 24 > **13 had been written over 14 > > That's all I have. > > Terry Ceballos > "Oh, what a tangled mess you see, > If you take a peek at my family tree!" > http://ceballos.freeyellow.com/ > http://hairball.fws1.com/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Owens" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:45 PM > Subject: [ILPOPE-L] request for census lookup > > > > Anyone have access to census for 1900 and later? For Pope County? If so, > please see if you have John D. Adams. > > > > >

1900 Pope Co. Federal Census Columbus Precinct, Enumeration District 57 88/88 name/relationship/race/gender/month & year of birth/age/marital status/years married/birthplace/father's birthplace/mother's birthplace/occupation Adams, John D./Head-W/M/11-1850/49/M/08*/IA/IA/IA/Farmer Catherine (3/2)/Wife/W/F/08-1846/53/M/08/PA/GE/GE John D./son/W/M/11-1881/18/S/-/IL/IA/IA/farm laborer James/son/W/M/01-1884/16/S/-/IL/IA/IA/farm laborer George W./son/W/M/09-1886/13**/S/-/IL/IA/IA/farm laborer Catherine N./Daughter/W/F/02-1895/5/S/-/IL/IL/IA Hans, George H./son/w/m/10-1886/13**/S/-/IL/GE/PA/farm laborer * = 8 had been written over 24 **13 had been written over 14 That's all I have. Terry Ceballos "Oh, what a tangled mess you see, If you take a peek at my family tree!" http://ceballos.freeyellow.com/ http://hairball.fws1.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Owens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: [ILPOPE-L] request for census lookup > Anyone have access to census for 1900 and later? For Pope County? If so, please see if you have John D. Adams. >

Anyone have access to census for 1900 and later? For Pope County? If so, please see if you have John D. Adams.

Thank you so much that really helps me. I'm trying to find supporting evidence regarding the children of William and Jesse Reams. Audrey

Carol, I have George Holloway b. 1708 s/o David and Elizabeth Francis Matthews Holloway. David was b. 1664. James Holloway b. 1725 wife Ann, s/o John and Hannah Spiers Holloway. I am not sure if this is who you want or is a connection to any you have. Linda

Susan: You mentioned a Mary Magdalena "Lena" MANSEN married to John WALTER. Do you have have more information on her? There is a LENA WALTER 1854 - 1941 listed in the Pope County Illinois Cemeteries Vol 3 page 34 listed at Waltersburg Cemetery, Pope Co., IL. It is a single stone with only her name. Clara

[email protected] wrote: > Carol, > I think we are shaken some of the same trees. I have the following > connections: > > Whiteside, George W. and Sarah Holloway YES, I AM CONNECTED TO SARAH ELIZABETH HOLLOWAY SHE IS THE DAU. OF Burton Williamson HOLLOWAY, WHO IS SOMEHOW CONNECTED TO MY MINTER (JOHN MINTER) HOLLOWAY. > > Brush, James Sales and Elizabeth Walters (Walter, Water, Watter, Walther or > whatever) I AM CONNECTED TO ELIZABETH A. WALTER (dau. of William John WALTER and Mary Magdalena "Lena" MANSEN). WE ARE FIRST COUSINS, THREE TIMES REMOVED. > > Brush, Mary C. and ?? Sistler I HAVE MARTHA C. BRUSH, MARRIED TO IVUS SISTLER, son of FRED (John Frederick SISTLER on April 10, 1904, Johnson County, IL / no children. MARTHA 1886-1973, MT ZION CEMETERY...she was living with her sister, Ruby, when she died. HER TOMBSTONE SAYS SHE WAS BORN IN 1888. ACCORDING TO SISTLER FAMILY RECORDS, 1888 WOULD BE IN ERROR, SO I OPTED TO STAY WITH October, 1886 SINCE THERE WERE NO CHILDREN. IVUS 1885-1942 MT. ZION CEMETERY, ROCK, POPE CO, IL. > > Brush, Mary Melissa and James M. Sistler and ? Shufflebarger JAMES McCLELLAND SISTLER MARR. ON August 16, 1889 / 8 CHILDREN ....and JAMES "Will" S.BARGER/ SHUFFLEBARGER ON September 10, 1936 / NO CHILDREN (HER AGE 64) > > Brush, William Wiley and Amanda E. Jenkins AMANDA "Mandy" IS MY GR-GRANDAUNT, WILLIAM WILEY BRUSH, JR. WAS HER HUSBAND. > > Sistler, Minnie and James Otto Grisham MINNIE MAY SISTLER, IS A SISTER TO IVUS SISTLER (above) WE ARE FIRST COUSINS, ONCE REMOVED. JAMES "JIM" O. GRISHAM WAS A SALESMAN AND LISTED IN THE 1900 CENSUS FOR WEBSTER PRECINCT. I THINK MINNIE MARRIED AT A VERY TENDER AGE OF 13 OR 14, BUT I AM NOT SURE. THE MARR DATE RECORDED WAS October 31, 1894, Pope Co, IL (Vol A-1, pg 200-#00001800). IF SHE WAS BORN May 1881 AND JIM WAS BORN December 1876, IT LEAVES ME TO WONDER IF THE DATES ARE WRONG. THIS NEEDS VERIFICATION. > Sharon and I must have at least a dozen family connections including her > sister-in-law Laura who is the niece of my great aunt Ola. > > Susan

Linda, I will look over my files and see if I can find my Va. 'hint'. Will get back to you if I find anything that looks promising. Thank you, Joan

Joan, what is the approx year of Obediah's birthday? Mine died about 1784 in SC. Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~ [email protected] wrote: > Coral, Bucy is also spelled as Bussey/Busey and a variety of other ways in > mid to late 1600's in Maryland. As for Obediah and Elizabeth Hollaway's > children, I have the following names: Polly, (married a Humphry) Sally > (married a Chilton), Susanna, Jinsey(married a Ware) , John, Martha/Patsy > (married Wm. Bucy) James and Joannah. Polly was dead prior to 1823 as her > brother, John, was appointed guardan for her dau. Susannah. Those mentioned > as married did so in Caswell Co. NC. A son in the next 20 generations was > called Obediah I do beleive. Several years ago when I was working on the the > Halloways in Caswell Co. I came across a 'hint' that they were from Va. > cannot prove it as I did persue it. This was pre-Computer days, now you know > how long I have been doing genealogy. Joan

thank you Linda...I am looking for wife of James HOLLOWAY, b 1635, York Co, VA.... wife's name is Ann, with no maiden name. Also, George HOLLOWAY's wife. He was b. 1590 England, d. in York Co, VA. Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [email protected] wrote: > The Holloway's that I have are from York Co, VA., then to Essex Co., VA. then > Caroline Co., VA., and depending on who they md. some went to Amelia Co., VA. > If anyone would like some from VA, please e-mail me. > Thanks, > Linda Holmes White

Please see my post earlier this evening re: 1855 Census. The State censuses between 1845-1865 do not include a list of inviduals in the household, only the head of household William Reams appear in 1845, 1855, 1865 Censuses. Individual years of birth and genders also appear. Carol .................... "D. Patterson" wrote: > Clara, > I'm looking for Polly Parmley and William Reams in the 1850 census. Were > they living in Pope County in 1850? > > Ellen Riley > [email protected] > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > Susan: > > Well, lets see: > > "Shade" is the grandfather of my husband. And I find it easier to trace > > all the children of Samuel trying to get all the information I can of > > this family. > > As to your questions: > > Joshua Bailey Austin born 1802 is the brother of William Harrison > > "Harris" Austin born 1810 > > > > Joshua B. Austin married Polly Ann Parmley born 1800 married in 1826 > > William H. Austin married Keziah/Kislah Parmley born 1813 > > We do list these ladies as daughters of Samuel & Rebekah Hawkins Parmley. > > However, we don't have them documented. Polly Ann is listed as also > > being married to a Mr. Reames in 1848. All these marriages are listed in > > the Illinois Archives Marriage Index Online. > > > > I would be interested in your branch of the Austin tree. > > Please feel free to email me anytime. > > Clara > > > > On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:34:24 EDT [email protected] writes: > > > Clara, > > > "Shade" is the uncle of my great aunt Winnie. So yes, I have > > > this tree back to Samuel. > > > Is William Harrison who married Kissiah (Kessiah) > > > Parmley the brother of Joshua B. and Kissiah the sister of Joshua's > > wife > > > Polly Ann Parmley? > > > My great grandmother's sister married the son of William Harrison and > > > Kissiah. This is why I just found it easier to do the Austin tree > > > too. > > > > > > Susan > > > > > > > > >

Clara, I'm looking for Polly Parmley and William Reams in the 1850 census. Were they living in Pope County in 1850? Ellen Riley [email protected] [email protected] wrote: > > Susan: > Well, lets see: > "Shade" is the grandfather of my husband. And I find it easier to trace > all the children of Samuel trying to get all the information I can of > this family. > As to your questions: > Joshua Bailey Austin born 1802 is the brother of William Harrison > "Harris" Austin born 1810 > > Joshua B. Austin married Polly Ann Parmley born 1800 married in 1826 > William H. Austin married Keziah/Kislah Parmley born 1813 > We do list these ladies as daughters of Samuel & Rebekah Hawkins Parmley. > However, we don't have them documented. Polly Ann is listed as also > being married to a Mr. Reames in 1848. All these marriages are listed in > the Illinois Archives Marriage Index Online. > > I would be interested in your branch of the Austin tree. > Please feel free to email me anytime. > Clara > > On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:34:24 EDT [email protected] writes: > > Clara, > > "Shade" is the uncle of my great aunt Winnie. So yes, I have > > this tree back to Samuel. > > Is William Harrison who married Kissiah (Kessiah) > > Parmley the brother of Joshua B. and Kissiah the sister of Joshua's > wife > > Polly Ann Parmley? > > My great grandmother's sister married the son of William Harrison and > > Kissiah. This is why I just found it easier to do the Austin tree > > too. > > > > Susan > > > > > >

Does anyone have the 1855 State Census for Pope Co. available? I am trying to find if William Reams/Reames is included in this Census. Can anyone out there help? I would really appreciate it. Audrey

hello Audrey...here is facts on the 1845, 1855, 1865 State Censuses for William REAMS...... 1845: 1 male b. 1835-1845 1 male b. 1815-1824 4 female b. 1835-1845 1 female b. 1815-1824 Total = 7 ....... 1855: 3 male b. 1815-1824 1 male b. 1805-1814 1 female b. 1835-1845 3 female b. 1825-1834 1 female b. 1795-1804 Total = 9 ........ 1865: 1 male b. 1795-1804 1 female b. 1825-1834 1 female b. 1775-1784 Total = 3 happy trails, Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [email protected] wrote: > Does anyone have the 1855 State Census for Pope Co. available? > I am trying to find if William Reams/Reames is included in this Census. > Can anyone out there help? I would really appreciate it. > Audrey

The Holloway's that I have are from York Co, VA., then to Essex Co., VA. then Caroline Co., VA., and depending on who they md. some went to Amelia Co., VA. If anyone would like some from VA, please e-mail me. Thanks, Linda Holmes White

Coral, Bucy is also spelled as Bussey/Busey and a variety of other ways in mid to late 1600's in Maryland. As for Obediah and Elizabeth Hollaway's children, I have the following names: Polly, (married a Humphry) Sally (married a Chilton), Susanna, Jinsey(married a Ware) , John, Martha/Patsy (married Wm. Bucy) James and Joannah. Polly was dead prior to 1823 as her brother, John, was appointed guardan for her dau. Susannah. Those mentioned as married did so in Caswell Co. NC. A son in the next 20 generations was called Obediah I do beleive. Several years ago when I was working on the the Halloways in Caswell Co. I came across a 'hint' that they were from Va. cannot prove it as I did persue it. This was pre-Computer days, now you know how long I have been doing genealogy. Joan

Ellen, I did some digging and found the following: Elizabeth Reams living with George and Sarah b. ca 1844 1850 census Eliza Reams daughter of John Reams and Martha McGree b. ca 1843 I check the marriage books and there are about 5 marriages with the names of Elizabeth or Eliza Reams. Elizabeth Reams m. John D. Waters Mar. 15, 1865 Sharon this is your area so is this Elizabeth related to George and Sarah and is she the same one on the 1860 census living with them?? Eliza Reams Cole dau. of John Reams and Martha Patsy McGee married Tallifeno Hammond Elizabeth Ann Reams m Henry Wilson Baker (from my database) Elizabeth Reams b. ca. 1850 daughter of John Reams and Margaret Tomlinson (from my database) I'm sure there are more marriages. So it looks like there was more than one and to complicate matters the years of birth are reasonably close. Bill Whiteside, do you know of any connection? Susan

Susan: Well, lets see: "Shade" is the grandfather of my husband. And I find it easier to trace all the children of Samuel trying to get all the information I can of this family. As to your questions: Joshua Bailey Austin born 1802 is the brother of William Harrison "Harris" Austin born 1810 Joshua B. Austin married Polly Ann Parmley born 1800 married in 1826 William H. Austin married Keziah/Kislah Parmley born 1813 We do list these ladies as daughters of Samuel & Rebekah Hawkins Parmley. However, we don't have them documented. Polly Ann is listed as also being married to a Mr. Reames in 1848. All these marriages are listed in the Illinois Archives Marriage Index Online. I would be interested in your branch of the Austin tree. Please feel free to email me anytime. Clara On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:34:24 EDT [email protected] writes: > Clara, > "Shade" is the uncle of my great aunt Winnie. So yes, I have > this tree back to Samuel. > Is William Harrison who married Kissiah (Kessiah) > Parmley the brother of Joshua B. and Kissiah the sister of Joshua's wife > Polly Ann Parmley? > My great grandmother's sister married the son of William Harrison and > Kissiah. This is why I just found it easier to do the Austin tree > too. > > Susan > > >

Thanks for your patience Howard! Can you contact me direct and tell me where we left off? We are still cleaning up ashes in the wind, but the computer is still chuggin away. :o) Look forward to hearing from you! Have a wonderful trip. Carol Howard Cook wrote: > Sharon, Carol, > > Yes I am on line. Still here in Everett, WA. We leave for a 9,000 mile > trip on 9/15. Carol, I am glad you recall that we have unfinished business. > But I have been patiently waiting, well... Actually I have been off on a > couple of other lines. But I am still very interested in nailing down > Holloways. > > Regards, > > Howard Cook > > -----Original Message----- > From: sharon brown [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 12:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] Anyone there?? > > I think he is off on one of his long trips in his RV. Howard, are you on > line? > Sharon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "CarolSue Robinson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 12:27 AM > Subject: Re: [ILPOPE-L] Anyone there?? > > > Yes, Sharon..I think Howard has emailed me...I am sure I > > have unfinished business with him. Please tell him to nag > > me to death...especially on Saturdays. :o) I don't remember > > where we left off....and my senior moments are turning into > > senior hours....hope he understands. > > > > THANKS FOR THE WONDERFUL PICTURES...I really am praying > > that is my Grandfather! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > sharon brown wrote: > > > > > You've talked to Howard Cook about the HOlloways, haven't you? > > > Did I send you the picture of Elizabeth Blatter Walter? > > > > > > - > > > >