In a message dated 2/20/2000 2:10:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, SAXBURY@aol.com writes: Howard McCullough haho@erinet.com << Iam wondering if you could help me out! As I am researching the "BINNS" family line, I notice under "Pike County Surname List" the surname of BINNS is included in said list. >> Dont know if this helps or not this is all the BINNS in the 1880 Pike Co. Chapman History book MRS. A. BINNS pg 448 Listed under Montezuma Township The teachers during the last year were John King, Miss Cromwell, Mrs. A. Binns, L. D. Riggs. Geo A. Holcomb, C. E. Thurman, J. G. Webster, J. L. Craven, W. F. Colvin, and the writer. *************************** EDWARD F. BINNS pg 672 County Clerk, is a son of Randolph and Elizabeth (McGlosson) Binns, both natives of Virginia. They were among the pioneers of this county, having emigrated here as early as 1835. Edward F. was born in this county, Jan. 23, 1841; he passed his boyhood days upon the farm and attended the common schools; at the age of 23 he embarked in business for himself, beginning at that time to buy and ship stock, cattle, hogs, sheep and horses. These he shipped mostly to the Chicago market. He then engaged in the mercantile business for a period of a year and a half. He has held the offices of township Collector and Assessor, and in 1877 was elected to the responsible position which he now holds. In 1868 he was united in marriage with Orpha Norton, who was born in Indiana in April, 1840. To them were born 3 children, - Louisa, William S. and Bertha. Mr. B. is a member of the Masonic fraternity, and an active and prominent member of the Christian Church. *********************************** Wm. BINNS pg 715 Listed under Martinsburg Township Others of the early pilgrims to this locality were Joseph and Robert Goodin, Wm Binns, Isaac Hoskins, Wm. Butler and Robert Richardson, most of whom were well-known in the early history of the county. *************************************** E. F. BINNS pg 871 Listed in Chapter XVII - County Officials County Clerk E. F. Binns...............................1877 *************************** E. F. BINNS pg 875 Listed in Chapter XVIII - Political No other Republican succeeded in being elected to office in this county until Judge Grigsby appeared as a candidate. He was elected by a majority of 78. County Clerk Binns, however, who is a Democrat, was elected the same year by 666 majority. This is owing largely to the personal popularity of the two gentlemen. **************************** E. F. BINNS pg 886 Listed in chapter XVII - Political County Clerk - Election returns E. F. Binns, dem...................2815...........666 **************************** -- Glenda Rochester, N.Y. ********** .............\\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ------- oOOo-(_)-oOOo---------------------------- Visit my web page & sign my Guestbook <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glendasubyak">Glenda - Rootsweb pg</A> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glendasubyak Volunteer - Random Acts of Kindness <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm">Random Acts of Kindness< /A>

Noel, More Greetings from Colorado - lets see Presidents Day greetings. Where in this wonderful state are you? I am in Lakewood. Baylis Cemetery Wilson, Sarah E (wife of O.L.) 1853 - 1895 She is the only Wilson buried in that cemetery, there is no mention of O.L. in Gray cemetery another New Salem cemetery. Not much, but at least you know where she is buried. Dorothy "Noel C. Matthews" wrote: > Dorothy, > > Greetings from Colorado! > > I would like to know if you could do a lookup for me. I am > trying to locate the burial location of a Sarah Lamb Wilson, born > May 31, 1853, died July 3, 1895. She is listed as passing away > at Baylis, Pike County, Illinois. Baylis I believe is in New > Salem town ship. She was probably buried in the Baylis cemetery > but there could have been another cemetery close by. Her husband > Oscar Lewis Wilson was a United Brethren Minister in that area. > > Thanks for any help that you might be able of give. > > Cheers, > > Noel Matthews > noelm@noelm.com

Bob, I am sorry for such a delay in getting this lookup done, but here it is, sure hope it is of help after such a long wait. Good luck in your search. Dorothy page 416 - Chambersburg James T. Varner was born in 1830 in Morgan county, Illinois, son of John and Sarah (Wood) Varner, natives of Kentucky, and of German ancestry. He came to this county in 1849 and now owns 90 acres on sec. 6, and is a farmer and cooper. In 1850 he married Nancy Hanks, and they have one son and three daughters living. Mr. V has been Road Commissioner and is a Democrat. P.O. Chambersburg. Bob Brittenham wrote: > Dorothy, > > I'd appreciate it if you would look up the following in the 1880 Pike > County > History. I found these names in the on-line index: > > Varner, Ch (4-James) > James T (416) > John (416) > Nancy (Hanks) 416 > Sarah (Wood) 416 > > Thanks a lot. > > Bob Brittenham > Poughkeepsie, NY

Alicia, I am sorry it has taken me such a long time in getting the lookup done. I got side tracked in my own Pike County search for the English line, was lucky too. I found a bit more on David and George that I have added. Hope this helps you. Good luck in your searching. Dorothy Page 329 Joseph Daul and Anthony Scheiner These criminals were indicted April 20, 1869, for committing murder in Brown county, as the result of an affray connected with the burning of show tens at Mount Sterling. A change of venue was taken to Pike county, and after a two days' trial the chaps were sentenced to 15 years' hard labor. Page 480 George W. Baldwin was born in New York city in 1830; is the son of David and Ann (Desney) Baldwin. His early educational advantages were very limited. In 1858 he married Sarah Jane Mason, a native of New Hampshire. Of their 6 children 5 are living, 4 sons and one daughter. One son is studying dentistry, and one of his daughters is a teacher. y occupation Mr. Baldwin is a miller, but has at present retired from that business. Page 523 David Baldwin, deceased, was born in Newark, NJ in 1793. He was a large contractor in New York city for 25 or 30 years. He came to Pike county in 1835, located in Perry and purchased large tracts of land; also engaged in farming. In 1849 he erected the Perry Flouring Mill; was the father of 5 children, of whom 3 are living; Alex, David P and Geo. W. Mr. Baldwin died in 1854. Page 522 The Pike Mills were erected in 1877, by the firm of McMahan & Co., composed of L. W. McMahan, D. P. Baldwin and G.P. Baldwin. The latter has sold out his interest. The machinery is all of the latest improved style, adapted to the new process system, and this was the first mill of the kind in this section of the state. It has proven a success to the owners, giving a larger yield and better quality of flour than the old system. The building is four stories high, with four run of burrs and a capacity of 200 barrels in 24 hours. They have a large patronage in the New England states and in Chicago for their flour. Page 312 - Supervisors John S. Roberts, Martinsburg, Chairman - Geo. W. Baldwin - Perry township "Bellamy, Alicia (CAP, GEFA, Contractor)" wrote: > Could you look up the following: > > page 329 Anthony Scheiner > page 480, 523 David Baldwin (also Alexander Baldwin if separate reference) > > Thank you, > > Alicia Bellamy > Administrative Assistant > Phone: *578-2755/(804)662-2755 > Fax: *578-2589/(804)662-2589 > E-mail: Alicia.Bellamy@gecapital.com

Lucy, I am sorry it has taken me forever to get this and many other lookups done. I got side tracked on my own search. Have been searching the English line in Ohio and Pike County - found a connection via the Western Illinois list ------ so............ I.N. Morris - page 396 Hon. I. N. Morris gave a high eulogy in the memory of Jackson Grimshaw. Jackson was the younger bother of Hon. Wm. A. Grimshaw. Page 398 Isaac N. Morris, of Quincy, but recently deceased, has practiced law in Pike county. Page 664 - Prominent Members of the Bar Isaac N. Morris was named as a deceased Bar member. Page 882 - Elections Election of Nov. 4, 1856 Ran as a Dem for Congress - won by 296 votes over Jackson Grimshaw who ran as a rep. Lucy, sorry there isn't any mention of his family. You might check the Thompson history book, there might be something there. I don't have that book - but there are a couple people on the list who do. Good luck in your search. Again I am sorry for such a delay in getting this done. Dorothy Lucy Barron wrote: > Dear Ms. Cline, > > I wondered if you could look up the references to the following name in the > 1880 History of Pike County? > > Morris, I.N., 396, 398, 664, 882 > > I have reason to believe that my Price Jackson MORRIS was son of a Jackson > MORRIS, who in turn was son of a Jackson N. MORRIS. As J was often misread > as an I, I can only hope. > > Thank you so much for your time. > > Lucy Barron http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~lbarron > 253 S. Walpole St. > Sharon, MA 02067-1606

Can anyone help this gentleman with the BINNS surname or have a new email address for Mary Brockmeyer? Have a great day, Barbara Freeman Pike Co ILGenWeb County Coordinator In a message dated 2/20/00 11:47:22 AM, haho@erinet.com writes: << Barbara: Iam wondering if you could help me out! As I am researching the "BINNS" family line, I notice under "Pike County Surname List" the surname of BINNS is included in said list. I sent an email query to Mary Brockmeyer (maryhbrock@aol.com) as her name seems to be the one to contact inre to the Binns Family Line. My message to Mary was returned to me as an incorrect address. Would it be possible for you to see that I could receive the "Binns Information of Pike County" which may be available. Thnk you so much, I am Howard McCullough haho@erinet.com >>

Jerry D, Thank you for the beautiful memories of life between the rivers in Pike Co. I wondered why they called Illinois "the PRAIRIE State," growing up there. I miss mushroom hunting in the spring, finding geodes in the creek beds & arrowheads in the river bottom fields, and looking over the world from the top of the river bluffs. My father, Robert Chappell, once swam across the Mississippi and back, without resting, & (nearly exhausted) got caught in a whirlpool and almost didn't make it back, while the family watched. Grandma Myrtle (Ervin) Chappell fainted before the uncles got him on shore. Does anyone in Pike remember the Ervin's? Will share great photos, not sure who they are. Jan Chappell Tuttle, OK (Tornado Alley) In a message dated 02/16/2000 4:49:27 AM Central Standard Time, ILPIKE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I got caught in Louisiana, MO for a week by the flood in '72/3. There was > no where to cross the river from St Louis to Rock Island, and most of the > creeks to the river were flooding out bridges, too. In those days part of > 3rd Street in Louisiana seemed to flood every year. > An uncle and a brother spent a month on the levee in '93, along with A LOT > of other people, fighting that flood. > GGreat Grandpa Davis left the Mississippi River bottoms for the hills in the > early 1900s, with his team pulling the wagon through flood waters. Great > Grandpa Tuttle did the same thing in the Illinois River bottoms in the > 1920s. GGGUncle Ap Davis died of pneumonia after taking a sick man across > the river in his boat one cold wet rainy night, so that the man could see > the doctor. This was back when a bridge was nothing but a fantasy in the > heads of some crazy people. > To me floods on the Mississippi are like hurricanes in Florida and snow > avalanches in Colorado, a fact of life. Every once in awhile God and Mother > Nature show who is in charge. If you want to enjoy the great benefits of > living in these great places a person has to live with those facts of life. > > The fun and the peace, that Mark Twain put into true words, of living near > the river is well worth it. > > Just some thoughts from a home sick river rat far from the river. > > Jerry D >

In a message dated 02/18/2000 12:49:24 AM Central Standard Time, ILPIKE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > The Quincy Herald Whig (Adams County) newspaper now charges for obituaries. > Will our great-grandchildren run into the same problems that we now run into > when we try to find an obituary of our ancestors. I know they put very little > info in some early obituaries I have found in late1800's. They might say " > Jane Doe of this community passed away last week". > I realize they are in business to make money, but don't they get enough > advertisement to at least cover obituaries. Our local, small town, once a > week paper doesn't even charge for these. I'm wondering what we could do to > encourage them to keep printing free obits since some families won't pay this > fee to have Aunt Nellie put in the paper. What if she was the last of her > family? Any suggestions? Letter to the editor perhaps? > Janet Janet, It is sad that the newspapers have to make money off of obituaries. I learned this 8 years ago when my sister passed away. The newspaper in Springfield, IL and the one in Oklahoma City charge for printing obits. I agree that it should be done free for posterity. Jan

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In a message dated 2/18/2000 1:10:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, JaniceJ12@excite.com writes: << Glenda do you do look ups in Chapmans book? If so could you look up : Francis Phillips pg-327, 582 Sarah J. Jester Phillips Pg-559 Moses Elliott Pg-566 Thank you very much. Janice Johnson wi_janice@winco.net >> ROBERT ELLIS pg 327 This criminal was indicted April 14, 1860, for the murder of Benj. F. Wade, Dec. 23 preceding, a little west of Detroit. Wade broke Ellis' whisky bottle and a quarrel ensued which resulted in the fatal affray in the yard of Francis Phillips. Ellis stabbed Wade with a large pocket-knife. Ellis pleaded not guilty but was convicted of manslaughter Nov. 24, 1860, and sentenced to one year in the penitentiary. ******************************** JAMES M. PHILLIPS pg 559 - 560 Son of Andrew Phillips, deceased, was born in Scott Co., ILL., Nov. 27, 1826, and like other pioneers has suffered many privations, and hardships. He resided where Griggsville now stands before there was any town there, and was there during the deep snow of 1830-1; was educated in Griggsville, and in 1855 was married to Sarah J., daughter of Nathan Jester, deceased. They had 5 children, of whom 3 are living, - Stephen A. D., Emily J. and David M. Mr. Phillips is engaged in farming and resides on sec. 35, Griggsville tp. He had many interesting experiences with wolves and Indians. At one time, when they had been committing depredations, such as killing stock, etc., he assisted in driving them away. One Indian seemed determined to load his gun and fight but was caught by one of the whites and severely whipped with a brush. ********************************* BENJAMIN F. WADE pg 566 Deceased, was born in Alton, ILL., in July, 1827; reared on a farm, experiencing in early days all the hardships of pioneer life; was a soldier in the Mexican war under Col. E. W. B. Newberry and Gen Taylor, and participated in the battles of Palo Alto, Resaca De La Palma, Monterey and Buena Vista. In 1852 he went to California, where he followed mining four years; returned to Pike Co.; was married Sept. 10, 1850, to Jane Elliott, and they had 4 children, 3 of whom are living, Martha E., John K. and Dorcas H. Mrs. Wade was born in Ross Co., O., Oct. 14, 1823, and is a sister of Moses Elliott, of Griggsville tp. Mr. Wade was a member of the M. E. Church, and died Dec. 23, 1859. ************************************ FRANCIS A. PHILLIPS pg 582 Farmer, sec. 3; P.O. Griggsville; son of Nathan and Nancy Phillips, both natives of North Carolina; they emigrated to this state in an early day, settling in this county. The subject of this sketch is a native of Kentucky, where he was born in 1824; he was married to Mary Elliott, who was born in Ohio in 1827, and they are the parents of 5 children, 4 of whom are living; Maria, Martha, Benjamin and Newton; August, deceased, Mr. P. has held the office of constable 4 years and School Director several years. His father was in the war of 1812. ***************************** -- Glenda Rochester, N.Y. ********** .............\\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ------- oOOo-(_)-oOOo---------------------------- Visit my web page & sign my Guestbook <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glendasubyak">Glenda - Rootsweb pg</A> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glendasubyak

I wrote to someone and this is the information she gave me. 1916-1947 Illinois death index. Which is on Micro film. She also said there was an older one for Cook County, thinks it runs from1879 or 69 thru 1916. That one is at the FHC along with an ILL. 1916-1938 one. Arlington Heights Library has the 1916-1947 ILL. death Index. Should contact Springfield or maybe online ILL GenWeb. I don't have an address for that one. Sharon D.

I also would be interested in this... Carol

The question you pose is do you charge for the research to find the obit or just to print it. I see no reason why one should not charge for labor and to charge $0.07 cents a copy. Most situations are that the state historical society will have copied the newspapers on film. For example, the Pittsfield Library has films of the papers that were done (I am sure) by some state org. Very seldom will a local paper have the old newspapers. They rely on the state to film them and distribute the film. In Colorado, you can buy the films of certain newspapers for certain periods for $32. When writing a history book, I bought the films and was able to use them to write the history and used the obits to profile certain people. The object of making money is not a sin. What is a sin is as in Colorado where, in a state organization, a law requires each copy made is $1.25. I paid $400 to get a school census. Does the Quincy Library have newspaper films and do they have volunteers that will copy them for you. I found that at certain times they did have volunteers that would do just that. I do not know if they still do. There is another facet. Most newspapers have ceased existence. I have found that one should look at all the papers that were in the town. You will find that every town had three newspapers at one time. Only one now exists in most cases. I have found sometimes one of them actually gave good information while the other gave very little. The real answer is: if you are depending on one local paper to have all the information, you are not digging deep enough. Look at the whole picture. By the way, the Quincy newspapers of old were not into obits. They were into making money. I found very little obit information in the older newspapers. ----- Original Message ----- From: janet <jlt@adams.net> To: <ILPIKE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 9:56 AM Subject: [ILPIKE] Obits > The Quincy Herald Whig (Adams County) newspaper now charges for obituaries. Will our great-grandchildren run into the same problems that we now run into when we try to find an obituary of our ancestors. I know they put very little info in some early obituaries I have found in late1800's. They might say " Jane Doe of this community passed away last week". > I realize they are in business to make money, but don't they get enough advertisement to at least cover obituaries. Our local, small town, once a week paper doesn't even charge for these. I'm wondering what we could do to encourage them to keep printing free obits since some families won't pay this fee to have Aunt Nellie put in the paper. What if she was the last of her family? Any suggestions? Letter to the editor perhaps? > Janet > >

Here is a web site that has a link to all Grand Lodges that have web sites. http://www.ilmason.org/Links/libasic1.htm La Velle

Hi Glenda; Could you give me the web address for the Texas death index, how far back does it go, do you know. Thanks, Imo Greenwood -----Original Message----- From: GSubyak@aol.com <GSubyak@aol.com> To: ILPIKE-L@rootsweb.com <ILPIKE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 9:38 AM Subject: [ILPIKE] IL State death index? >Does anyone know if one can obtain a complete list of a certain surname >from the IL death index, if there is one, as Texas has one. how? > >-- >Glenda >Rochester, N.Y. >********** >.............\\\|/// > \\ ~ ~ // > ( @ @ ) >------- oOOo-(_)-oOOo---------------------------- > >Visit my web page & sign my Guestbook > <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gle ndasubyak">Glenda - >Rootsweb pg</A> >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glendasu byak

The Quincy Herald Whig (Adams County) newspaper now charges for obituaries. Will our great-grandchildren run into the same problems that we now run into when we try to find an obituary of our ancestors. I know they put very little info in some early obituaries I have found in late1800's. They might say " Jane Doe of this community passed away last week". I realize they are in business to make money, but don't they get enough advertisement to at least cover obituaries. Our local, small town, once a week paper doesn't even charge for these. I'm wondering what we could do to encourage them to keep printing free obits since some families won't pay this fee to have Aunt Nellie put in the paper. What if she was the last of her family? Any suggestions? Letter to the editor perhaps? Janet

Pertaining to Marriages found on the IL Sate Marriage site Even if you find a marriage on the IL State index and send for it chances are you won't get I found 2 on the list, sent a check for them one was for 1871 - one for 1886 they wouldn't even send the one for 1886 - I gave them the lic. # Vol # Got my check back today with this letter Cook County records begin in the year 1872 All Officail records that existed prior to that were destroyed in the Great Chicago Fire on October 8, 1871 -- Glenda Rochester, N.Y. ********** .............\\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ------- oOOo-(_)-oOOo---------------------------- Visit my web page & sign my Guestbook <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glendasubyak">Glenda - Rootsweb pg</A> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glendasubyak

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Hi. I just signed on to the list and am hoping for some help. First, to whom do I write to obtain an index for the 1850 Pike County census. I didn't find one among the Pike County books available. Currently I have only some bare data on one family but would like to see the rest of the "community." Unfortunately, my source did not give me the township in which my family located in 1850. Second, does anyone connect with Mary Ann (WILEY) BROWN b. about 1810 KY. Sometime after the death of her husband, Reuben BROWN, 1840 in Sangamon county, she moved with her considerable family to Pike County. She is on the 1850 Census. By 1860 she is in Grundy Co., Mo. I'm trying to find the reason for Mary's relocation from Sangamon to Pike -- generally for a widow with 10 children I would suspect the reason would be family of some kind. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. Judy (Johnson) Reustle judy@netfocus.net (Researching JOHNSON, SMITH, BROWN (2) and some which are much easier!!)

One of the motto's of the Masons is: To become one ask one. You don't have to be related to a Mason to become a Mason, however; there are two youth organizations affiliated with the Masons. The International Order of Job's Daughters and Demolay. To become a member of the youth organizations, you must prove that you are related to a mason in good standing. All the above organizations require that you fill out a form to join. As a family researcher, if you know your relative was a member of these groups, you may request a copy of the original application. For a girl or boy to join the youth groups they name the relative on their application and then the leader of the group they are joining contacts the masons lodge to confirm that he is a member in good standing or was at the time of death. An application should have birth dates and if a lodge was notified of a Mason's death (sometimes they perform a Masonic service at the funeral) they will have death info too. Hope this isn't too long to be of help. La Velle Majority Member of Job's Daughters Bethel 75 of Rickreall, OR and Member of Honor of Job's Daughters Bethel 43 of Salem, OR. Family researcher looking for Nott, Knott and Naught.