Sources: Francis has a military marker because he was in the Black Hawk War, Pvt., 3rd Regt., 3rd Brig., IL Military Documents Francis came from SC on horseback with a family named Brown to Randloph County when he was 17 years old. He had 75 cents and a change of clothes. Most of his money went to feed his horse. He had hoped to homestead but the land was all taken. He worked until he could buy land from a first owner then established a home for his bride. Was in army May 15, 1832 - August 17 ? 1850 Fed Census District 7, Perry Co., IL, (Francis living beside John Ayre SC age 50, William Brown SC age 55, William Brown Scotland 39, John Caswell Scotland 45, John Campbell, John Ayre SC 28, James Ayre SC 26, Hugh Campbell SC 31, Andrew Brown SC). Francis age 36 born in SC with wife Jane and children Jane A., Robert A., William F. Value of real estate $600. 1860 Fed Census Township 6 S Range 4 W, Perry Co, IL Francis is missing. He might be the last person on the previous page that has the wrong age. Jennette Smith age 40 born in Ireland with children Jennette Smith, 18, Francis Smith 10, James A. 9, Thomas 7. 1870 Fed Census Denmark, Perry Co, IL Indicates Francis farming with Francis, Thomas, and Lewis as laborers. Thomas and Janette had attended school. Jeanette indicates she was born in Ireland and is 18 years younger than Francis. Estate valued at $9000 personal value $1800. Living beside John Ayres and George Ayres. 1880 Fed Census South West Precinct.,Perry Co., IL Occupation Farmer, widower. Parents from South Carolina. Sons James and Lewis live with him. Son F W (Francis) lives beside. 1900 Fed Census Pinckneyville, Perry Co., IL son Thomas living indicates father born in SC and mother in Ireland. 1910 Census Perry Co., IL Son Thomas is listed and states his mother was born in Ireland and father in SC. Her Headstone reads Jennet Smith died Jan 13, 1873. Some census indicate she was born in Ireland others indicate South Carolina. Family record indicates SC. 1870 Census name is Jennetta and born in Ireland. Thanks for your suggestions. I haven't contacted the court house in Perry Co. Not sure they can provide the missing information. They were married in Randolph Co but I'm not sure their parent's names would be listed. In other family lines, I have found patterns where children were named after grandparents, then parents, then aunts/uncles. Their first female child named Jane Ann maybe after mother (or possibly maternal grandmother as I found a tree indicating Jane McHatton's parents were Alexander McHatton and Jennei Smith). First male child named Robert Alexander - this could be a combination of Francis' father's name and Jane's father's name or maybe that was Jane's father's full name. I have tried to consider leads with the children's names but continue to end up with dead ends. Thanks again! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonna" <jonnawanna@yahoo.com> To: <ilperry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [ILPERRY] Message Boards - Francis Smith > What sources have you used to find the info you have > so far? I think I do have Francis' wife's name at home > in my home computer and will check that later tonight > after class. > > Have you contaacted the Perry County courthouse at > all? > Jonna > > --- Rama Brunswick <rama32164@cox.net> wrote: > >> Francis Smith born in 1804 SC, died 1884 Perry Co., >> IL. Wife, >> Jane/Jennie/Jennet/Jennetta McHatton born 1819, >> Ireland, died 1873 Perry >> Co., IL. Married 1840 Randolph Co., IL. I've been >> unable to confirm who >> their parents were or where in SC Francis was born. >> Any information would be >> appreciated. >> >> Jonna, >> I was almost afraid to read your response as the >> other poster was/is really >> angry with me. Thank you for being gracious and I >> regret raising the >> question!!! >> >> I do remember you, now, and am still stuck on this >> generation. I have found >> other family trees that list people. However, there >> aren't any sources to >> confirm the names/dates/places. >> >> Please do email me, however you prefer, and no >> hurry. Thank you. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jonna" <jonnawanna@yahoo.com> >> To: <ilperry@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:11 AM >> Subject: Re: [ILPERRY] Message Boards - Francis >> Smith - Rama >> >> >> > Just wanted to say that, like Jean, I am also a >> > legitimate member of this board. I think this is a >> > good time to remind people that while it's good to >> be >> > cautious regarding who you are contacting and who >> you >> > are sharing information with, that for the most >> part >> > all of us as genealogists are very willing to >> share >> > information and to correspond with others >> researching >> > the same families. >> > >> > However, no matter how much we would like to be >> > helpful, sometimes life gets in the way. >> Personally, I >> > work full time, take bachelor courses at night and >> > teach a Beginner's course in Genealogy at my local >> > teach college. Not to mention raising a family and >> > attempts at having a personal life, so we are not >> > always able to respond as quickly as we would like >> to. >> > So please be patient with me. I've been on both >> ends >> > of that, and have had to wait a long time to get a >> > response but eventually it comes around. >> > >> > I would really like to help you Rama, and we >> should >> > talk because I was looking back at my old saved >> email >> > and we had corresponded back in 2003. We also have >> the >> > Bigham's in common. It looks as if I had responded >> to >> > you at that time but I had never gotten a response >> > back from you. I don't have a ton in my files on >> > Francis but I do have some other Smith information >> > that may be helpful. Can you tell me specifically >> what >> > you have already and what you are specifically >> looking >> > for? That would help me respond quicker. >> > >> > If you would like respond to my private email at >> > jonnawanna@yahoo.com or on this board. >> > Thanks!! >> > Jonna >> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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